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Never... wouldnt happen, i can promise that.

Besides, i dont want it to happend.. Why would i like to see Superman die? no way. no thanks.

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So.... how do you measure smarts?

I voted Bats, and im surprised so many people voted Tony.

Okay.... I know this guy, genius really, that is when it comes to Math, science and chemistry (the last one in a lesser extent), im more or less an idiot when it comes to math... but when we discuss politics, life and sociality.... he is naive and doesnt have much to bring to the table, so is he smarter than be because he is better in some fields than i am? I dont think so, he is however smarter in some ways where im smarter in others.

If i needed a supersuit, or a guy to fix my car, i would go to Tony, but i still say that overall... Batman is miles ahead of Tony.

Batman is wiser, more cunning, clever. He excels or shines in nearly every form of study, going from science to fiction, mythology, psychology and more.

Tony Stark seems to only have his head in the area of science, technology, astrology and the ladiiies - he is however crazy smarts in those fields.

Still overall ill say Batman is smarter than Tony... no doubt in my mind.

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@durakken said:

@skunkstein said:

@muyjingo: Dont listen to the answers ''the universe is a big place, yada, yada, yada'' its just a lazy explanation!

Its stupid thats what it is, it doesnt make sense. I HATED that they even had to say that line in Birthright. I loved the explanation that Kryptonians didnt travel away from theyr planet because of religious beliefs, that make sense. They could know about other races and be aware of what happened around them, but they choose to stay because of cultural and religous reasons, ill buy that.

But when a civilization as advancened as Krypton who exists in a comic book setting (where there IS literally aliens beaming at every corner!, i mean we even have aliens in OUR solar system) its just stupid. The whole idea that kryptonians didnt know about life just makes them seem incompetent and stupid as a race. Man! I hated that line so much!

And its not about traveling around looking at individual planets, even if you traveled lightspeed that would take... well that would be impossible technically, or it would take billions of years! But scanners! Even as primitive as we are, we have traveled to the moon and have probes at some pretty far places in the solar system, but we are already scanning MILLIONS and billions of miles away, not very good mind you, but still, we have only done this for really 60-80ish years... imagine in 10.000 years, we would be kings of the galaxy(if were still alive), we would know EXACTLY what happended around us in a very, very, very, very far radius!

You're also forgetting things like Religious dogma often censor things and erase things from history and we know that Kryptonians in the universe were feared and stayed away from. So it is possible that at one point they expanded conquering and killing and decimated all the space in their territory and then that civilization crumbled losing a ton of that knowledge and if any survived it was hidden and then in time as they readvanced and started exploring they found nothing in their search, because there literally was nothing because they had destroyed it in a previous civilization.

You have to realize that a lot of modern technology and concepts that we have today isn't "new" in the sense that we're the first to invent or think of the principals behind it. Many things all the way up to around the early 1900s were invented more than 2000 years ago, but because of various political reasons and the thoughts of the times they simply weren't used and advanced or were forgotten. So when we say things like "we came up with the idea of the atom in 1930s" we mean our current western civilization. Atomic theory was a thing in Greece and Rome 2000 years ago. Taking that sort of view you can see easily how it's possible that Kryptonians who did fall and did have multiple empires and such could not have found other intelligent civilizations in much the same way due to the same reasons.

Not to mention the idea that the DCU is all teeming with life is just wrong to begin with consider you simply don't know where Krypton is located nor do you know whether it is in an active or dead zone which there are dead zones in the DCU and I'm pretty sure you don't know the absolute position in time these 100,000 years happened in which means they could have been in present day or thousands to millions of years in the past... all of the above effects whether or not they'd actually find others.

I dont buy it, sure if we talk about technological advancement then a lot of what you say is truth, and sure you can hyperbole the idea that Krypton dont know of any other living race.

But my point is that its bad writing, whenever someone has to go so such extreme lengths to actually rethink the whole kryptonian history in ''fan fiction'' proves my point. It just makes this crazy advanced civilization that is Krypton seem stupid, ignorant and naive... which is kinda the opposite of everything the DC universe is trying to make the Kryptonian civilization out to be.

In the main DC universe, Krypton is very close to earth, in a cosmic sense. In Birthright its VERY far from Earth, so the deal with not knowing life makes a bit more sense in that story! Still that sentence annoys me!

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@lilben42 said:

@skunkstein: I'm telling people MoS is so much better the second viewing.

Yep, thats the damn truth.

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I honestly dont know precisely... but i think he is supposed to like... crazy strong, i saw him kinda like a joke on Sentry.

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@sandman_ said:

I...thought....you hated it?

Ive been into the theater.. watching it, i think 3, no 4 times, yeah 4 times now. And i have warmed A LOT up for it! A LOT!

However even after the first time i saw it, and disliked it, it was never because of him killing Zod.

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@lvenger said:

Well I'm glad you liked it but I can't say the same for me. Snyder distorted the core of Superman's character, his ethical compass and what he stands for in this film. He seemed more like a glorified super soldier than a protector of humanity for me.

Dont you think that in the view of the movieverse, that letting a man who was about to destroy humanity live, would be... the opposite of our protector? Especially when we saw in what way he killed Zod, it was a last resort, plus he cleary felt terrible about what he did after he snapped his neck.

I respect your opinion, and i see where the people who disliked the ''murder'' is coming from, because it IS very much unlike Superman to take anyones life. However, if you sit in Zack Snyder shoes, and you wanted to show a protector of humanity to the average guy i would make Superman kill Zod aswell, honestly in the context of the movie and the movieverse, it would be incompetent of Superman to let Zod live, he isnt just a villian or a criminal he actually was about to destroy humanity plus he has the powers of a god, if he would let such a guy live, with the power he had... wouldnt he be the exact opposite of our protector?

The decision to make Superman kill Zod in this movie creates a way to make people understand why he has his moral compass, and why Superman is as we see him in the comics - our protector -.

Plus if you have a character that EVERYONE knows would never, ever, ever kill anyone, it would for a lot of casual fans make a lot of future fights very boring. Now we have this thought put into our head, that Superman is actually capable of more, which could create some interesting fights.

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