SiycoBat

@Grim said:

@SiycoBat said:

@Brazen_Intellect: Same here. I keep hearing all over the internet.

"OMG GAIL SIMONE GOT FIRED! FUCK YOU, DC!!"

"DC IS SEXIST BECAUSE THEY FIRED GAIL SIMONE!"

"GAIL SIMONE WAS THE REASON I WAS INTO BATGIRL!"

I kept hearing mostly emotional outbursts and accusations of sexism at DC where honestly, there is none.

the thing is... Gail has been consistently good-to-epic in everything shes done. She put much of the fire beneath DC's female characters ad female fanbase. And they have spent the last year treating her like a newbie. There was no real reason not to give her free reign over Batgirl, Suicide Squad, and Birds of Prey. But what they gave her instead was half control over Batgirl.

im not sure if its a sexism thing or not (with Dan and Jim at the helm, id like to think not), but it is kinda odd that a consistent and nearly universally praised talent like Gail keeps making her way to the chopping block, while guys like Liefeld who constantly lowers sales keeps getting handed things. She has been proven capable of writing and selling multiple titles at a time. Why isnt DC using her to her fullest potential?

You mean inconsistently average-to-good. I won't deny that her work with Birds of Prey and Secret Six were her crowning achievements as most would say but I personally wouldn't go as far as to call her the best writer at DC unless you wanna say that she's the best female writer.

Editors are not there at DC just to allow the writers to do whatever they want. They are there to make sure that the book is running in a good creative direction and most importantly, make sure that book is running in a good direction according to DC's perspective. It doesn't matter how good a writer is, no good editor in their right mind is going to just completely leave his job to a writer and expect the writer to know everything about what DC expects from the book.

I fully agree that what Cunningham did to Simone was completely tasteless and crude but as far as being taken off a book goes, it's a common reality to any writer that doesn't meet the proper creative direction that DC expects. That's the breaks for dealing with writing characters for a big-time comic-book company and being responsible for writing characters that are really not their own property.

Honestly, the writers that truly have total control over their own book, IMO, are the ones that are making up their own stories and own characters and not playing in someone else's sandbox.

@Red_Robin212 said:

At least it's not Ann Nocenti on the book

Word. She's fucking terrible.

@Brazen_Intellect: Same here. I keep hearing all over the internet.

"OMG GAIL SIMONE GOT FIRED! FUCK YOU, DC!!"

"DC IS SEXIST BECAUSE THEY FIRED GAIL SIMONE!"

"GAIL SIMONE WAS THE REASON I WAS INTO BATGIRL!"

I kept hearing mostly emotional outbursts and accusations of sexism at DC where honestly, there is none.

I wanted to hear DC's and the editor's side of the story on this drama but it looks like it's not gonna happen.

DC may not have as much female writers as Marvel but they forget that until Marvel's reboot, there was BARELY any female-superhero centered comic-books while DC had plenty.

Marvel is no different than DC if they really have to go along with their "sexism" accusations.

@arnoldoaad: Yeah, I thought that was a little tasteless too on the "iCarly" remark. I would have expected that kind of comment from Red Hood and Damian but Barbara?

@LarryDavis: Yeah, it's stupid. Gail Simone is not the only female writer in the comic-book world. If you bother to even look outside the realm of big-name American comic companies like DC and Marvel, you can see that there is enough female writers to the point of even playing the sexism card on the comic world, in general, is just crazy.

I'm not gonna say that I know everything about this drama and if anyone has anymore detail they can just reply back but...this entire thing is just too freaking wacky.

Gail Simone got fired by email from her new editor.

She went into borderline-vague detail about the whole thing and was pretty classy and calm even though she admit that she caught a little hell.

I've heard fan and fellow DC writer and artist outcry over her crisis.

DC and the new editor has yet to explain their side of this story.

And all of a sudden, things are back to the way they were last month?

Seriously WTF?

If this was a social experiment to see if the media would pay more attention to a female writer than a male writer over the drama of getting fired in the manner it was explained to us, then the experiment would have been a success in this case.

Of all the forums I've been to over this, I've found out that a writer getting fired over the manner of creative differences with editorial staff is common place at DC and should be considered no big deal. However, it seems as though just because the DC writer, in question, getting fired HAPPENS to be a woman is why this drama is so extremely overblown.

Oh and the superman title is called "Man of Steel." However, Blue Beetle, Grifter, S.H.A.D.E., and Legion Lost is gonna be replaced with Threshold, Vibe, Katana, and JLA. Since it's credited that G.I. Combat and Hellblazer (a vertigo comic) is ending this December and likely replaced with the upcoming John Constantine and Man of Steel, what two other titles (or three) are gonna bite the dust?

Honestly, I want to see Deathstroke, Hawkman, World's Finest, Green Arrow and Superboy hit the cut list. Deathstroke's run has been screwy all thanks to Rob Liebeld. Hawkman, Green Arrow and World's Finest seem like a waste of space. Superboy is the most boring out of the Young Justice brand and since he's with the Titans now. There's no really point in Superboy having a solo if he plans on staying with the Titans. I would not mind if Batman: The Dark Knight bites the dust because it seems more like a filler Bat book not serving any real purpose. We got too many Bat books and JL books and some of them need to hit the cut list so other series from less successful titles can get their spotlight. I do know one thing though, they had better not cancel Suicide Squad.

I'm like this.

Batman wouldn't be Batman if he didn't keep secrets. He has done that since as long as I've been following the character. At times, most secrets are better off kept in the dark because they complicate things, distract from the primary objective and create unnecessary drama which is what I respect about Batman. However, certain secrets cannot be kept in the dark and if they prove threatening to everything you hold of value in the future, it will come back and bite you in the worst way imaginable. This is what is happening to Bruce.

Secrets that could jeopardize not just his identity, personal life, and work he's done as Batman but the Bat-family's identities and personal lives and work as well was, admittedly, a stupid mistake on Bruce's part. Honestly, he's been Batman for five or six years and thinks just because he's the best non-meta superhero that does better detective work than possibly Interpol, has better tech than the world, and knows how to cover his tracks, he thinks he doesn't have any flaws or weaknesses or chinks in his armor, so to say. He thinks he knows everything, he thinks he's too good to leave any openings. Bruce is about to get the worst wake-up call anyone can get and all because he did the stupid mistake of underestimating his opponent and overestimating his own abilities.

Also I would like to make another note as far as getting new readers, is to make serious measures into changing society's attitude when it comes to comics and animated works. This Puritan and condescending attitude that currently has a strangle hold on American animated media is killing any means of society ever seeing animated series anything more than shows for children. Even though there are gems on TV like the Venture Brothers, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic ( I dare you to give me shit about this show), Green Lantern and Young Justice, the majority of animated media is completely dumbed down and treats kids and its watchers like they are completely stupid and can't handle depth.