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Silkcuts top 5 Overrated and Underrated (Writers edtion)

Top 5 Overrated

  1. Brian Michael Bendis  - Loved and Hated by many at the same time.  I wonder how many would still love him if he was no a Marvel writer?  I feel his only level of success as a writer was work on Marvel.  Sure he did have his Image work, but when it boils down to it, would you save "Fire" for a fire?  I would of linked "Fire" to help with my pun but that was killed when I noticed that there was no page to it.  I guess people only care about Bendis' Marvel work after all, who cares about his indie work after powers. 
  2. Judd Winick - I admit this maybe harsh without reading Pedro and Me, but its because of Pedro and me I placed him at number two.  Maybe I can't find it, but do we even have Pedro and me as a page on the vine? He is a reality star who still won't stop acting like we still care.  She his Power Girl hasn't gotten the series canceled yet, but look how many people dropped it because of him. He is maybe DC comics weakest writer.
  3. Mark Millar - I am not saying I am not a fan of him.  I am just saying he is overrated.  The dude is on the top of many peoples list and all he is really good at is self promoting. I enjoy a lot of his work, but he is Grant Morrison's student and I still don't think he can touch his master in creation comparison.  At a Con in Toronto I even heard Barry Kitson say "Mark, yeah he is special, he just wants to be famous".  Millar is a great writer, but his heart is in it for the wrong reasons.
  4. Neil Gaiman - This is strictly talking comics.  Like my argument with Millar, Gaiman was the student of Alan Moore.  Sure Gaiman has the Sandman Universe, but how many of us really know how much Moore influcend that world.  Even "Gaiman's Cain and Abel" are Moore's version from Swamp Thing.  It was Alan Moore who created the constant killing of Able in the DCU. I do love Neil Gaiman, but his name on comics sell because he is a Rock Star.  A friend of mine was only interested in Wednesday comics because of the Gaiman story, which was great but not the reason to read Wednesday comics alone.
  5. Garth Ennis - I know I'll get flack for this, but if you think about it it is true.  After Preacher Ennis has become formulated.  You can see the difference in his writing drastically between Hellblazer and Preacher.  Hellblazer had a heart to it I think Ennis lost, in which Ennis used John Constantine to preach his " true faith" and push his creative writing talent.  With Preacher, most people read it because it was cool.  I am still convince Preacher is in Hellblazer's universe and " Genesis" is Ellie's baby.  Ennis is all about shock, which he still pumps out fun great tales, but what really new is he doing?  Even his war books get ignored by his fans if there is not enough gore.  How many of his fans have read Enemy Ace?  Honestly.

Top 5 Underrated

  1. Alan Moore - It is easy to say Alan Moore is your fave writer if that is all you know and then many of those people change their minds to other writers because they stop after being introduced to comics because of a Moore book (like Watchmen) and then go on to something different.  There are people who hate Alan Moore because he refuses to work in superheros anymore.  There are people who hate Alan Moore because they believe the negative publicity DC feeds us, that idea Alan Moore is a bitter old man who hates everything.  I don't know all the reasons why there is beef between the two, but its between them. Part of the reason Alan Moore is the most celebrated writer in comics is because of his importance to comics.  If he is not your honest favorite writer, odds are he is your favorite writer's favorite writer.  Warren Ellis and Grant Morrison are too other Vertigo vets that have found influence on their writing besides the mentioned above Neil Gaiman.
  2. Peter Milligan - I was talking to Aztek one day because we both are reading Hellblazer right now.  Aztek said "Peter Milligan is the invisible backbone of Vertigo", no words have ever been so true.  Many people still don't know who Peter Milligan is because he'll appear and disappear just as quickly either way when dealing with mainstream comics.  Not everyone has read Shade or X-Statix and you all should!  From the British Invasion he hasn't blown up to the level many of his peers has.  His writing is just as brilliant and layered as Grant Morrison, but Morrison had the Invisibles which solidified his rep.  Peter Milligan can be as perverted as Ennis, but because Extremist or Minx was not Preacher, he is overlooked again.  There is so much great Milligan work, yet not enough love for the man.
  3. Kyle Baker - A man I hope you have read something from.  Gifted with both ability to write and create wonder images, Kyle Baker is master of the graphic narration.  Most of his famous works were at Vertigo and that fact that most of them only saw one printing means not enough people have read his work.  He has created for Marvel, DC and Image comics and has had fun work like the short lived Plastic Man to powerful researched literature pieces like King David.  In honesty I loved Wednesday Comics and from all the stories Hawkman was my favorite.  It was exciting, it made me laugh, it was a solid read.
  4. Joshua Dysart - Why does he keep going Vertigo if they won't let him do anything past 25 issues.  The boy can write, yet he gets no love or respect.  Unknown Soldier should of not be canceled so quickly when it was winning awards.  If you haven't read a Dysart Vertigo book, you should try it out. Heck Dysart is so unloved that on Comicvine he still doesn't have a picture displayed on his page.
  5. Eddie Campbell - Famous as one of Alan Moore's go to artist, Eddie Campbell knows how to create comics.  After From Hell odds are you haven't read anything else by him... that is assuming you read From Hell of course.  Eddie Campbell has written a little bit of Captain American and Batman, but how many people really read those short work.  Eddie Campbell's flaw is he is too Independent and only fans of graphic narration, which should not be confused to just comics, would follow his work.  In the Alec omnibus Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman and Warren Ellis are quoted to praise the Alec series in which many comicviners I am sure haven't read, since I have slowly been adding there pages.
 
Don't take my overrated list as a hate list.  I love many of the writers I placed there.  Heck I rank Gaiman as my 4th fave writer... I know that is too high, but I loved Sandman and the universe he created. What has he done for me lately?
 
This list is meant to make people think about comic talent and popularity.  I could of added Ellis on the overrated list because he gives up on projects too much, but then I can also argue that he is prolific.  No one was safe on my list, it was honest opinion.  Heck I love Azzarello, if I made it a top 10, he likely would be on the 10 of Overrated because all he can do well is Crime, Westerns and Batman.  Frank Miller is off the list because he is not high no most people's list nowadays. Grant Morrison is high on most people's list as he should be, so he was safe on my list.
 
Feel free to tell me your lists and why you would list people that way.
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I'd add to the underrated list: 
 
Jeff Parker (Loved Atlas & his current T'Bolts run) 
Dan Didio (his Outsiders work is really underappreciated in my book) 
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You know who else is underrated?
 
Dan Slott,and Christos Gage.

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@Caligula said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" I don't even think Bendis has any loyal fans anymore, and if they are they're only latching onto the success that was ultimate spider-man and daredevil. "
true i hate bendis. but i will give the devil his credit he did good on DD "
nice play on words. 
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@Silkcuts said:
" @Caligula said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" I don't even think Bendis has any loyal fans anymore, and if they are they're only latching onto the success that was ultimate spider-man and daredevil. "
true i hate bendis. but i will give the devil his credit he did good on DD "
nice play on words.  "
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@Jake Fury said:

" I'd add to the underrated list:  Jeff Parker (Loved Atlas & his current T'Bolts run) Dan Didio (his Outsiders work is really underappreciated in my book)  "

Jeff Parker, I should look into, I admit I don't know him.
 
Dan Didio is overrated.... I rather Jeff Lemire and Brian Wood before Didiot
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@geraldthesloth said:
" You know who else is underrated?  Dan Slott,and Christos Gage. "
nice additions.  Gage for sure.
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@aztek the lost said:
"I think the best thing Bendis ever did IMO was draw a story for Transmetropolitan: Filth of the City
 

 
 
though it wasn't even my favorite art in the comic by any means  however, to be honest, I do want to check out his Icon stuff...but his Marvel, bleh "
only thing i liked about him was that page lol
@Silkcuts:
Agreed Bendis needs to burn in a firey pit somehwere very deep 
 
But yes Garth hasnt had anything NEW story wise ina  long time, but what hes been doing since Punisher is f@#king awesome. Have you read his stint on Punisher yet? its f@#KING AWESOME!! 
 
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@geraldthesloth said:
"You know who else is underrated?  Dan Slott,and Christos Gage. "

QFT. gage's work on Avengers Initiative & Avengers Academy is awesome stuff.
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@aztek the lost: He draws?
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@Silkcuts said:
"@Jake Fury said:

" I'd add to the underrated list:  Jeff Parker (Loved Atlas & his current T'Bolts run) Dan Didio (his Outsiders work is really underappreciated in my book)  "

Jeff Parker, I should look into, I admit I don't know him.  Dan Didio is overrated.... I rather Jeff Lemire and Brian Wood before Didiot "

I've only read Didio's stuff on Outsiders...I can't comment on any of his other stuff..
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@aztek the lost said:
"looks like the three of us will have to continue the Moore debate once I get back from reading "The Moore Compendium" :P  however, Watchmen is technically speaking his "greatest" work and I've read that...but yes...I'll try and begin Swamp Thing in the next month (need to read it anyways to have read everything new/old Vertigo printed this year) as well as From Hell and Promethea...I'll look into more of his stuff too...maybe we can estimate for January of next year to get back to Moore discussions?  p.s. I thought Blood + Water was collected because of the vampire craze, I actually said that in my review of it...and I do think the first three issues were phenomenal...but the ending was...meh...sort of tainted the rest of the story...I do wish Bang! Tango had been collected though but Haunted Tank which came from the same period is only being collected tomorrow so we'll see if Bang! Tango is coming soon? "

Promethea is something that came from a different universe of awesomeness. And From Hell actually is scary, so is an awesome read
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@Darkchild:  Ennis is good at what he does.  I am not arguing that.  I just feel he doesn't have the depth anymore.  True faith, Enemy Ace and Hellblazer Garth has a different heart to it.  I felt bad for Aaron taking over Punisher... Ennis is everyone's favorite Frank Castle writer.
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@aztek the lost:  I was worried that is all. Jason Aaron is making a name for himself.  Leaving to Marvel was a brilliant idea for him.
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@aztek the lost:
yeah you will enjoy From Hell 
 
@Silkcuts:
yeah Garth is my fav Punisher writer he just knows how to make him even more BADASS. 
 
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Great list! Can't say I disagree with much of it.    
 
Absolutely 100% agree with Bendis, Millar, and Ennis especially.

I don't think Winnick is overrated though. Not saying he is great, just that I don't know of many people that rate him that high to begin with lol. 
I don't think that Alan Moore is underrated. I think he gets the credit he deserves. I understand your argument though: basically that you see him as underrated because his less prestigious works don't get enough exposure/credit. Makes sense.
 
I would recommend Paul Cornell for the underrated list.  

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@Silkcuts said:
" @aztek the lost:  I was worried that is all. Jason Aaron is making a name for himself.  Leaving to Marvel was a brilliant idea for him. "
Scalped is awesome. my favorite of the current Vertigo lines
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@aztek the lost said:
" @Caligula said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @aztek the lost:  I was worried that is all. Jason Aaron is making a name for himself.  Leaving to Marvel was a brilliant idea for him. "
Scalped is awesome. my favorite of the current Vertigo lines "
I love it quite extensively and am extremely excited about the current arc! but the delays make it hard for me to call a favorite monthly because I keep forgetting it's still going (that's what happens I guess when you read everything, same problem happens with Jack of Fables, Fables and recently Joe the Barbarian) but #40 is finally coming out tomorrow! "

righteous.
 
but the delays don't bother me too bad. I mean I'm the guy that stuck with Planetary. and it's epic delays
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@Bobby X said:
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Great list! Can't say I disagree with much of it.    
 
Absolutely 100% agree with Bendis, Millar, and Ennis especially.

I don't think Winnick is overrated though. Not saying he is great, just that I don't know of many people that rate him that high to begin with lol. 
I don't think that Alan Moore is underrated. I think he gets the credit he deserves. I understand your argument though: basically that you see him as underrated because his less prestigious works don't get enough exposure/credit. Makes sense.
 
I would recommend Paul Cornell for the underrated list.  

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Thanks :D
Aztek as well mentioned I am picking on poor Winick 
 
Moore I explained all over here that most people miss rate him without reading his core books.
 
Paul Cornell is a good one, I wish he wrote DC stuff.  I was introduced to him on another board about future Hellblazer writers and his name came up.
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Sorry, but Alan is more overrated that the whole list of overrated guys, also why is not Frank Miller there?

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@DeathpooltheT1000 said:

" Sorry, but Alan is more overrated that the whole list of overrated guys, also why is not Frank Miller there? "

because A: Frank Miller isn't really popular anymore. most people are like you and bash the man disrespectfully even though he is a legend. so calling him Overrated is retarded. most of this younger generation seem to have nothing for contempt for the man. and it's because they read only his poor work.
 
and as for Alan Moore im going to state my opinion again (as his biggest fan) that he is neither over or under rated. he is where he belongs in the comic world.
 
*note* these are my opinions.
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@Caligula said:
" @DeathpooltheT1000 said:

" Sorry, but Alan is more overrated that the whole list of overrated guys, also why is not Frank Miller there? "

because A: Frank Miller isn't really popular anymore. most people are like you and bash the man disrespectfully even though he is a legend. so calling him Overrated is retarded. most of this younger generation seem to have nothing for contempt for the man. and it's because they read only his poor work.  and as for Alan Moore im going to state my opinion again (as his biggest fan) that he is neither over or under rated. he is where he belongs in the comic world.  *note* these are my opinions. "
Your oppinnin is that he is not overrated, by one being fan or two you really belive that.
I think is by the number one, but, i have to say, for all the thing i read from Moore, i mean, he does great, but when i see people go and say, thing that make no sense, i dont going to say he sucks, most of people dont understand that overrated dont equal suck and underrated con equal great.
I mean Miller, never was that great, still i am sick of hear that he was one of the best of all time, i mean,he wasnt horribly bad, but he is overrated.
I know Gaiman, but i think he is good, but he is like mad and he belive everything he writes is pure gold.
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@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
" @Caligula said:
" @DeathpooltheT1000 said:

" Sorry, but Alan is more overrated that the whole list of overrated guys, also why is not Frank Miller there? "

because A: Frank Miller isn't really popular anymore. most people are like you and bash the man disrespectfully even though he is a legend. so calling him Overrated is retarded. most of this younger generation seem to have nothing for contempt for the man. and it's because they read only his poor work.  and as for Alan Moore im going to state my opinion again (as his biggest fan) that he is neither over or under rated. he is where he belongs in the comic world.  *note* these are my opinions. "
Your oppinnin is that he is not overrated, by one being fan or two you really belive that. I think is by the number one, but, i have to say, for all the thing i read from Moore, i mean, he does great, but when i see people go and say, thing that make no sense, i dont going to say he sucks, most of people dont understand that overrated dont equal suck and underrated con equal great. I mean Miller, never was that great, still i am sick of hear that he was one of the best of all time, i mean,he wasnt horribly bad, but he is overrated. I know Gaiman, but i think he is good, but he is like mad and he belive everything he writes is pure gold. "

for Moore. I believe he is neither over nor under rated. like i said he is my favorite writer, so it could be bias playing into my feelings on this. I don't think it is but it could be.
 
And as for Miller. seriously how is he overrated. damn near every current comic reader who didn't grow up reading his classic works, hate the man. they don't just think he is overrated they think he sucks. which is not so.
 
but like i said Best and Worst are relative to the reader in question.
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Bendis overrated? I don't think he's overrated judging from the virulent hate and love he gets. I think he's getting too much responsibility for the quality of the stories he churns. He's really hurt by his style, which defined his earlier work but dampens his large superhero work.  

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@aztek the lost said:
" @Silkcuts said:
"Paul Cornell is a good one, I wish he wrote DC stuff.  I was introduced to him on another board about future Hellblazer writers and his name came up. "
isn't he writing Action Comics and that upcoming appearance by Death? "
besides that I am not sure what else DC he has done.  He was more Marvel before.
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@DeathpooltheT1000 said:
" Sorry, but Alan is more overrated that the whole list of overrated guys, also why is not Frank Miller there? "
Honest. Have you read Swamp Thing, From Hell, and his ABC work?  Are you a fan of the guys like Morrison, Ellis and Gaiman?  Alan Moore paved the way and the hate people have is why I say he is underrated. many people are quick to say he is overrated, but all those who have actually read his work love him.  He is likely your favorite writers favorite writer if your fave writer is not Moore.
 
Frank Miller I was going to list as overrated... but like a few people have said... he is forgotten now.  He is washed up. He had his time, but after Sin City, he doesn't have it anymore. Miller is not worthy of washing Moore's feet.  Hate Moore or not, he gave us Gaiman, Morrison, Ellis, BKV, Vertigo and of course John Constantine. Miller made Batman big, sure.. But the Killing Joke is still canon.  Morrison is the top Bat writer right now.  Moore's imprint is still felt in comics, and he is still hated.  That is why he is underrated.
 
Before anyone ever reads American Gothic, its "Moore" is overrated.  Its easy to hate when you don't have the facts.
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awww I love Judd, he will always have a special place in my heart because of Barry Ween and the fact that there are very few books he has done that I didn't like, mainly DCU:Decisions blegh.

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@pikahyper:  we still boys pikahyper!  You can still like Judd.  Everyone is allowed a guilty pleasure or two.  Heck, I love Brian Azzarello and he is not an all-star.
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I like what i read a very interesting blog.  Unfortunately, I know enough to know I don't know enough to comment intelligently on much of this.  I do like it however and think it is a great idea for a blog good job.

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I would put Alan Moore in overrated considering and I would put Judd Winick in underrated. Read From Hell and didn't like it felt like Alan Moore wrote a series of essays and put in character's dialog I don't see the appeal in Eddie Campbell's art. I don't know what you mean negative publicity DC feeds people no one hardly talks about him unless he is bought up he gets negative publicity from just speaking. And I like Alan Moore.  As for Garth Ennis I agree once you read one of his books they are all the same. 

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It is an understandable list, that much is for sure. You make your case for each choice well.  
 
I feel Bendis gets too much hate to be number one on the overrated list. And I would flip your position on his appreciation. I think if he was not a Marvel writer and only did creator owned work, he would be much more loved.
 
 The only thing I've read of Judd Winick has been Generation Lost, which has been great, so to me I do not see the overrated aspect.
 
I think Millar should without a doubt be number one on the overrated list. His popularity in relation to his talent is just insane. And that is coming from someone who really enjoys his work. The dude is savy, though. You have to give him that. 
 
I do not think it is fair to have Gaiman there. Even if Sandman was the only good thing he ever did (hypothetical, I'm not actually claiming this), that alone would make him worthy of the respect he receives.
 
Finally, I completely disagree about Ennis. He does rely on gratuity and shock but that is not all he is which many would claim of Millar. A great writer, a strong commentator through his work on numerous subjects and a very creative idea man. He gets what the premier work in the medium is and should be and he contributes his toll to that. In fact, I would say Ennis is underrated. Because for how great he is, i cannot see people such as yourself who are very familiar with the industry placing him as high as he deserves on an overall top writers list.
 
On the underrated side, I just want to touch on Moore. You make a really great case for putting him there but I just cannot help but find it silly to call him underrated.

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I just found out like last year that Winick was on the Real World way back when. I know him from his Green Arrow work. I dont feel he is overrated or underrated. I just see him as a pretty solid writer. Loving his Justice League: Generation Lost.
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@Pizawle:  Thanks for the reply.  It was hard to put Gaiman and Ennis on the overrated list because I do love them.  But I am sticking to my guns. Not all great writers should be as high as people place them.  Heck they are in my top 10 and really... guys like Matt Wagner, Chuck Dixon, Greg Rucka or even Azzarello who just misses it.  If you really write down a fair top ten, does Gaiman and Ennis really belong there?  If they do for you, then good.  Heck I am guilty as well of overrating them.
 
Mind you The bendis comments are fair.  If he kept indie and/or wasn't Marvel he may have missed this list.   
 
You maybe the only one who actually read what I had to say about Moore.  I agree it is weird saying he is underrated, but the "hate" I got from posting further proved my points.  Non-Swamp Thing readers say he is overrated.  But it really is not enough people get passed Watchmen.
 
@longbowhunter:  Maybe it is just my area of Toronto, I hear a lot of Bendis love and Winick 
 
@johnny spam: Its cool you disagree with me.  Glad you are a winick fan, so I didn't make it up, you guys do exist. ;)
I Love Alan Moore and DC does some messed up things, for example there is a Green Lantern site which "claimed" to have an Alan Moore interview where he goes off.  That Green Lantern site is owned by Warner.
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@Silkcuts: If your talking about that immature podcast where someone said they interviewed Alan Moore then it was someone putting on a fake accent and yelling about Blackest Night I am sure that was some GL fanboys more then anything else since that's who run allot of these sites like the Batman-on-film site. 
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@johnny spam:  I forget the website's name, but it is owned by Warner. Fanboys or not, it is part of the machine.
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how on earth could neil gaiman and garth ennis  be overrated when nobody even read vertigo  
and seriously sandman and preacher are masterpiece

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@mrtrickster said:
" how on earth could neil gaiman and garth ennis  be overrated when nobody even read vertigo  and seriously sandman and preacher are masterpiece "
Remover Sandman Gaiman has nothing else major.  Remove the Alan Moore influence Gaiman has nothing.  I love his writing and placed him there because so many people talk about Sandman as if they truly see how good it is.  to understand how good it is, you would have to read Alan Moore and how he influenced him.  But Sandman out sells Swamp Thing, but there is no Sandman without Swamp Thing. Gaiman is a good writer, but he is ranked really high in most peoples list, yet those same people call Moore overrated.  That is like loving Micheal Jordan and not respecting Doctor Jay.  
 
As for Garth, he is formulated.  Again "Preacher".. that is all people say.  He is a formula, remove it and what does he have?  Besides Aztek, I am the only other person I know on the vine who read his Hellblazer arc.  I read True faith and his Dredd... not one cares about those because they are not the preacher no ones cares.  He has talent, but I don't think he uses it because its all about the "Shock value".  Yes he is the reason for Marvel Max... well him and Axel, but again Axel is also responsible for Preacher.
 
For the love those two men get, there are other great writers who get no love.  David Lapham for one, his Stray Bullets is an award winner, yet no one had access to it since it is an indie book.  He is so over the top that he took over the Crossed universe where the Great Ennis burned all his ideas in the first story.  Ennis is great if that is your thing, but remove the "Preacher" forumla, would you read his Enemy Ace or his work on The Demon?  Gaiman is loved off because of the Sandman universe, yet no one talks about Peter Milligan from the Vertigo alumni.  Yet he wrote Shade, Human Target, X-Statix, Face, Eaters and a hell of a lot more of comics then Neil Gaiman did.  Also Gaiman had a failed company in Tekno Comix, Alan Moore's ABC was full of award winners.
 
I enjoy the works of many of the guys I called overrated.  But that is what they are, they get high praise because those who praise them are not as widely read, no offense. 
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Alan Moore is overrated

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@Son_of_Magnus:  who is your fave writer? I bet he was influenced by Moore.
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@Silkcuts said:
" @Son_of_Magnus:  who is your fave writer? I bet he was influenced by Moore. "
Paul Dini and Niel Gaimon. And more people are influenced by Stan Lee's writing and god bless the man his writing was bland and basic.
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@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @Son_of_Magnus:  who is your fave writer? I bet he was influenced by Moore. "
Paul Dini and Niel Gaimon. And more people are influenced by Stan Lee's writing and god bless the man his writing was bland and basic. "
who is Neil Gaimon?  Stan Lee is the king of Hacks.  Not even worth talking about.  It is Kirby that people praise and influenced by.
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@Silkcuts said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @Son_of_Magnus:  who is your fave writer? I bet he was influenced by Moore. "
Paul Dini and Niel Gaimon. And more people are influenced by Stan Lee's writing and god bless the man his writing was bland and basic. "
who is Neil Gaimon?  Stan Lee is the king of Hacks.  Not even worth talking about.  It is Kirby that people praise and influenced by. "
That's cute bringing up a minor spelling error of surname to make me look stupid. People compare Alan Moore to Hemingway if you don't see that as ludicrous I don't know what is. All of his supposed prodigies have surpassed him Gaiman, Morrison, Ennis
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@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Silkcuts said:
" @Son_of_Magnus:  who is your fave writer? I bet he was influenced by Moore. "
Paul Dini and Niel Gaimon. And more people are influenced by Stan Lee's writing and god bless the man his writing was bland and basic. "
who is Neil Gaimon?  Stan Lee is the king of Hacks.  Not even worth talking about.  It is Kirby that people praise and influenced by. "
That's cute bringing up a minor spelling error of surname to make me look stupid. People compare Alan Moore to Hemingway if you don't see that as ludicrous I don't know what is. All of his supposed prodigies have surpassed him Gaiman, Morrison, Ennis "
I just pointed  it out since he is your fave and all. To the mainstream Moore is forgotten since he doesn't cater to the masses, he is the highest praised writer and your favorite writers favorite writer for a reason.  Works like Watchmen, Swamp Thing and V change the level of comic storytelling, ABC proved Alan could still write. Gaiman hasn't surpassed Moore in the slightest if you have read the ABC imprint.  Morrison is arguable and Ennis is not in the same class as Morrison and Moore or even Milligan.  Moore is underrated for the point you just proved, Moore is overlooked because most people only read the mainstream and judge him for just that, but works like Promethea (which made J.H. Williams III sought after) or even Tomorrow stories are skipped.  Those who hate on more haven't read enough of him to have a fair opinion.