Shisho_The_Fist

@terry2012: Understand that some peoples ending in the game aren't cannon, such as if you end the game with any character it will say they beat shao kahn and became champion of mortal kombat but we all know liu kang is the cannon (correct) ending that carries over into other games. Paul's hot headedness did not affect him in his fight with kazuya as the match was a draw, if he had been hot headed as you say he would have lost, yet he didn't. Besides back then in t1 & t2 paul was being portrayed as a rival to kazuya and a serious and stern fighter, not the hotheaded oaf he is today. He made that mistake simply because through out those 500 years no one came close to a challenge for him. I know if i had been winning a tournament for generations and hadn't been close to being defeated i would be arrogant as well. It's not cannon because laws ending wasn't cannon as he lost and didnt win the prize money so he had no business being at a bank paying off debt with money he didn't win. If she is nowhere near there level even getting the drop on him shouldn't have surmised a victory but it did and he should have been durable enough to take sheeva's initial attack and fight her but obviously it didn't happen that way;plus, the teleportation didn't help him with liu kang also so its obviously not a game changer as it didn't help him with either fight. He only lost to him once to the four times he's beaten kuma. Well they say the elder gods can't intervene with mortal kombat but they could show a flashback of the elder gods and raiden fighting shinnok. Likewise my friend.

@Gritterr said:

I could see Hal stopping at 4 both rounds. but Terrax is Jobber Mcgee in character. so I'm not sure

Lol found that hilarious

@MasterJohn said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Bor or Hela.

.....What part of no gods or goddesses do you not understand? Anyway, Bugs Bunny would own both of them. But anyway, please read the OP.

You didn't say Gods couldn't be used, you only clarified that no one on thanos IG or living tribunal level, there are plently of gods who are under them and planty that can beat your team.

@Vaeternus: With the way he has the battles arranged they don't win the majority, also terry believes the shokan can teleport, can you inform me of when this occured?

@terry2012: Cyber Sub Zero was not mind controlled by shao kahn, those were slaving protocols put on him by the lin kuei. You say like getting people angry will allow him to when yet when he angered and fought jax (stronger and more experienced) he lost so i don't see how making someone angry will allow him to win as its never shown to work that way. Goro lost because of his arrogance, he hadn't been defeated in generations and figured no one could defeat him especially a shoalin monk. The ending where law uppercuts paul is not cannon and shouldn't be used as a source, also you still never explained where johnny cage fought goro cause he didn't do it in either MK1 or MK4 and neither the games after as the shokan race had allied with edenian forces so unless you specify where this occured i won't acknowledge it. When did the shokans learn to teleport? They've never shown this ability in any game so would you also explain where you got this information also? Sheeva can't teleport which shows Motaro was simply bested by sheeva even with teleportation so its obviously not a game changer. What do you mean paul can't beat Kuma, he's beaten both the elder kuma and current kuma. Elder Kuma in T1 & T2, Current Kuma in T3 & T5. I'm well aware raiden can not truly die but you must understand i used the word "kill" in a sense he was without a physical body therefore couldn't retrieve the amulet regardless even if he used the attack to begin with. I know i was implying that there's no reason for mentioning dropping his elder god status as we've never seen the scope of power it contains and for all argument sakes he's always thunder god raiden because of i formerly mentioned.

@terry2012: I don't remember kahn being able to instantly mind control someone, can you explain where this has been done as i don't recall him having the ability to do so. I don't see how johnny's going to out think paul as there both pretty full of themselves and johnny has never really been portrayed as a heavy thinker. There going to have a traditional fight where paul being the stronger and more experienced fighter should win. Plus, paul was the only person outside of a misihima to come close at beating a mishima (had a draw with kazuya), this shows his incredible strength and skill. I hope when you mention johnny cage beating Goro your not referring to that horrible movie since upon recollection i don't remember johnny cage canonically fighting Goro as liu kang defeated him in both Mk1 and Mk4. You realize Paul lossed to kuma in tekken 4 and was not being trained by heihachi nor was he ever trained by heihachi where did you get this information? Motaro being killed by shiva wasn't my main point but that he was bested by shiva, if his teleporting is that much of a game changer in his favor why didn't it work against sheeva? Raiden's most powerful attacked would have killed him also which would have refrained him from retaining the amulet. Raiden has never done battle in either mortal kombat in his ascended elder god state so he's pretty much always thunder god raiden when he participates since the elder gods cannot intervene. The souls worked in there favor in the defeat of raiden but i still believed he should have been able to best them.

@Vaeternus: Were aware as the elder sub zero died in mk1 or not far after by scorpion, but the discussion was on what happened after quan chi regained the amulet and if shinnok was truly bested by the elder sub zero in that game even though it was stated he was still within the netherealm gathering his army up until the events of mk4

@IZZR: My apologies i was just asking since you said strongest incarnations but yes trion should be able to solo so i suggest using the levels you formerly intended

@Dextersinister: Hulk can't do what heller did

So this is WW3 Black Adam (powered by the additional God) and Lord Marvel (Unless SA versions are allowed here) vs Mindless Hulk, Trion Juggernaut, Thing (Bronze Age Thing was strongest i believe), and Doc Samson