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#1 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

Any of the abstracts like Eternity or Master Order, Galactus, a high enough mystical entity like one of the Vishanti, Chthon, another highly skilled skyfather, a Celestial. Others. Warriors Madness is more of a detriment then a blessing since it would impede Thor's ability to cleverly use the Odinforce.

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#2 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

Any of the abstracts like Eternity or Master Order, Galactus, a high enough mystical entity like one of the Vishanti, Chthon, another highly skilled skyfather, a Celestial. Others.

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#3 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@bezza said:

Brings a new slant to Banes immortal words " I will break you"...

Actually despite what I put at the start of the thread, as Wolvie and Hulk are my favourite Marvel characters I quite enjoy their battles. The ultimate one being Wolverine v Hulk in "Old Man Logan", but it does seem unlikely that someone of Wolverine's limited physical strength could really do that much damage to Hulk, unbreakable claws or not...

Wolverine's claws are either portrayed as so sharp they cat cut through nearly anything regardless of strength or close to it. That is typically the only way he and X-23 hand with beings above streets.

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#4 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@bezza: The Hercules mini-series from the 1980s by Bob Layton are pretty good as well. They portray Hercules in an alternate future that brings a fitting end to his legend.

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#5 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@theamazingbatman: that makes sense. And are you reading the current Thor series by Jason Aaron? Because i don't fully understand king Thor and why he's like how he is

King Thor is Thor far in the future to the point where he has started to grow old. He has reigned as king of Asgard for eons. At some point he lost both his eye and his arm. We haven't been given all the details on his past as of yet.Judging by the fact livable worlds are becoming sparse is sounds like anywhere from millions of billions of years in the future if not trillions.

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#6 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@enyalios: @theamazingbatman: Thank you both. So when other people lift it they don't truly have the power Thor has is the idea I'm getting

No, they truly possess the power of Thor. When they lift the hammer they have access of all of his strength, weather control, or anything else. This has been proven the times others like Beta Ray Bill have lifted it, changed or commented on the power. Odin can still control the hammer because he is the one who enchanted it and is well...Odin.

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#7 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

If he hates Thor then why did he write Thor: The Dark World and sign a contract to do Thor 3?

I imagine because they paid him to do it and it is a task that probable pays well.

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#8 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@seekquaze said:

Distrust is wondering why a man has come to your island and keeping a safe distance until you discover his intentions. Hatred is regarding his mere presence as a crime that requires you to castrate him. The Amazons fall into the latter.

Yet none of the Amazons made a move to do so, leaving the threat as little more than hot air.


Because Wonder Woman stopped them. She made it clear she would fight them and they respect her since she is the princess.


A) They were unrealistic for a people that had decided to remain secret.

B) We have no idea what was and wasn't said by Hippolyta and Hephaestus when they decided to trade boys for arms, because it's not been detailed. As likely as it would be that the Amazons didn't care what he did, it's equally possible they were happy to know the kids would have a life. What Diana initially saw as slavery was only what she thought it was based on Hephs sketchy tale of how he acquired the boys.

C) Except the majority of ships that were trade vessels, who's combat abilities were severely inadequate for anything other than scaring potential threats away.As for the weapons, it does tell you a lot about the Amazons mindset that they favor outdated arms and tactics even if they easily could have Heph apply them with better.

D) Except you had to get to the church and risk getting seen and brave the ocean to get there, you'd have to be careful about picking the church too often, you couldn't dump all the kids at the same church. Just getting the kids in the first place is likely considered a great risk in itself as it is, tripling that threat isn't a viable option. Also the boys may/may not be as ageless as Hippolyta, which will raise questions.

And as Diana found out, it wasn't. And in Hermes' case; noone made a move against him, even when Diana was too far away to be of any help. What the Amazons were doing in the scene was very similar to what the Ewok did when it encountered Leia, growling and pointing it's spear at her because it's unsure what she is going to do. In the Amazons case, the spear is just verbal and none of the Amazons were actually armed when they emerged from the bushes.

A. No, they were not. Small groups of women going to different cities every few years and sleeping with sailors in one-night stand would not be noticeable. Numerous unnamed and untracked people migrate to cities all the time.

B. And again given how the Amazons were originally willing to murder the infants you have zero evidence to indicate the Amazons wanted the males to have a happy life. You are grasping at straws.

C. Yet were often armed none the less. And if Hephaestus is supplying the weapons it stands to reason the metallurgy is far superior to anything mortals make. Sort of like the Asgardians using swords in the Thor films.

D. The Amazons were already braving the ocean in the first place. And again, send the Amazons to different cities a few at a time and have them leave the child at dawn, midnight, etc. And if the boys are not ageless it is not an issue. They age normally. So again you have no point.

And again, when they first arrived on the island Diana made it clear Hermes and Zola were under her protection. That is reason enough for Diana to leave them alone.

Further conversation on this topic is pointless. You obviously are not going to change your mind. Virtually everyone else that has posted on this topic feels differently. Therefore I don't see what more we have to discuss.

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#9 Edited by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85 said:

A) I never said that. What I said was that your suggestions weren't very good, certainly not a realistic option the secretive Amazons would take.

B) No they wouldn't. Because a person considered unworthy of life are the sort you send to the electric chair.

C) You are talking about a people who have stuck to the spear, sword and bow as their primary armament for 3000 years regardless if the writer was called Perez, Marston, Rucka or Azzarello, that alone should tell you how unchanging the Amazons are. And the raids at sea is the safest way for the Amazons to do what they need to do, they dont risk discovery, their targets are going to be unarmed and everyone gets to go home unless the sea claims them.

D) You aren't thinking it through when you say it's easy to adopt kids away to a better life, it's a modern perception thats how it goes. For the greatest part of those 3000 years, those kids would end up in poverty and slavery, plus you have the risk that comes with these kids are likely as superhuman as their mothers.

When are you going to understand that hatred is a very specific thing and that the Amazons have yet to display it?

Specifically in this case it would be that the Amazons would all be of the opinion that all men need to have harm befall them or die.

A. Yes, they were a more realistic option that would only have taken a bit more effort. The Amazon took the easy route.

B. Wonder Woman thought the men were enslaved to Hephaestus. Considering she was an Amazon and the general Olympian disregard for mortals it does not take too much to think the rest of the Amazons thought they were selling the men into slavery as well. So yes that is a fate you would give someone you despise in exchange for the best weapons known to gods or mortals.

C. Spear, sword or bow have been the primary armament for 3000 years. That does not mean much. And for centuries ships have travelled armed due to being either Navel vessels or fear of pirates. So not everyone gets to go home. And as far as writers go I am talking about the New 52 Amazons who are different from previous versions.

D. It has been customary to leave children on the steps of churches for centuries. That would have been a plausible and secretive method. And since were Amazons born superhuman? I had always heard that it was their training. Denied the training they are regular humans.

And given the reception Hermes received it follows they despise men. They placed so little value on their male children they willingly sold them into what sounds like as a lifetime of slavery in exchange for weapons.

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#10 Posted by seekquaze (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@archizoom: It only clear if you say distrust and dislike equate to hatred.

Distrust is wondering why a man has come to your island and keeping a safe distance until you discover his intentions. Hatred is regarding his mere presence as a crime that requires you to castrate him. The Amazons fall into the latter.

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