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#1 Edited by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say no. I don't see him really pulling everyone's strings or manipulating events on a large scale. Emperor Palpatine had his finger in nearly every pie and everyone dancing to his strings who plans more or less generally succeeded.

With Thanos, so far there is no evidence that he connected to The Dark Elves, Kree-Nova War, Hydra or anything else. His plans so far have failed and his minions instead of loyally serving him have all turned on him. So I would say he is not off to a great start though he may get out of his chair and put his mind to something after the events in GOTG.

#2 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, his first major appearence was a let down for me. All of his minions betray him and there is no evidence that id saw it coming. Two Infinity Stones have slipped through his fingers and are now in heavily-guarded (even for him) facilities. He claimed to have the power to destroy Xander, but based on what we saw of the Chitauri in Avengers I highly doubt he could do it without an infinity stone even if he does have an army large enough to attack Xander itself. He would be declaring war on a major interstellar empire.

I think the film WANTED him to be a badass who is "above" everything, but for a film that was meant to build him up it failed for me. All we saw was his minions praise how great he is while he seats in a chair and made threats. His plans failed, minions betrayed him, and he has no stone. He did not come out ahead in any way.

#3 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

Ares(much like Neptune or Pluto) can lift/press 70 tons. True, this makes him weaker than half brother Hercules never mind the Thing, Wonder Man, Thor and the Hulk buth battles are not always won with sheer brute strength. Cunning, skill and experience must also be added to the mix! (Ares has all these in spades!)

Terry

Sadly, he almost never uses them. He relies almost entirely on brute strength. That is why he is often rated lowly and loses major battles.

#4 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

He is evil, but not in the overt way most comic villains are. It is made clear in the series that if someone crosses him accidentally, inconveniences him, or does not do what he wants immediately he will almost always destroy them in the most horrible way possible due to his massive pride unless he is either in a really good mood or in a hurry and considers the matter to trivial to concern himself with beyond the moment. He also has no qualms about sacrificing any number of people or other beings if it serves his goals. A key point in the series is whatever compassion he had was lost long ago and why Michael is his foil. Lucifer is pride without any regard for others. Virtually nothing matters but Lucifer's will. Michael on the other hand possesses the compassion Lucifer lacks, but a noted lack of will which may be a good thing considering he possessed more raw power. God in this series was a combination of the two. Same with Elaine.

#5 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

Hercules is most famous for his 12 labors. Out of all of those which one do you think is the "greatest?" In modern stories, the slaying of the Nemean Lion is sometimes treated as the greatest since Hercules wore its hide. Which do you think is the greatest labor?

What about Marvel Hercules? What is his greatest feat?

#6 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

@scouterv said:

I don't see any reason he couldn't lift it. I think the various stories showing he would kill are reason enough to say that he could lift the hammer if Death is the only thing stopping him. Lord Superman, Superboy Prime, The High Councilor, Ultraman, and Brutaal are all Superman willing to kill. Lord Superman and High Councilor are probably even more correct in their judgement (overall, but not case-by-case,) to choose to kill people like The Joker and Doomsday. I have to believe that, given the fact that it's infinitely possible that Superman would kill someone under the right circumstances like any of the other "warriors" discussed here, he should be able to lift the hammer.

And I guess when you put it like that really anyone could lift the hammer. I'm not huge into Marvel so maybe I'm missing something, but perhaps there are some universes where Thors' analogue is unable to lift the Hammer?

The problem is you are looking at Odin's idea of worthiness. Superman's no-kill philosophy varies from absolutely no to under extreme circumstances depending on the writer and version of Superman. At the end of the day, Superman is not a warrior which is what sets Thor and Superman apart. The killing aspect is a part Walter Simonson once stated to indicate that difference.

Superman should lift it because his soul is more pure and divine than Odin's andt hus should break his enchanment by sheer force of willpower. I mean Superman is God made more Holy than other Gods.

I know in DC Superman is often portrayed as some sort of universal messiah, but again you are comparing something closer to a Christian idea of worthiness to a Viking idea of worthiness. In many stories, Superman is vulnerable to magic and Mjolnir's worthiness clause is magic.

#7 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wouldn't have fought Hulk. If Thor knew what the Illuminati did to him, he would believe what Hulk's doing is not his problem. Heck he would probably confront them too.

I think Thor would take issue with Hulk invading New York. He might fight Hulk to remove him from the city, but he would definitly confront the Illuminati about their actions and force them to take repsonbility for exiling the Hulk. Remember, they were not the cause for the destruction of Sakaar. The Red King's men placed a damaged warp drive on the ship hoping it would destroy the Hulk and underestimated it because they had no idea how it worked. Hirom's people brought the Hulk to Sakaar by controlling the wormhole and whatever space drive the Hulk's ship had was not a hyperdrive.

#8 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

Its close, but sadly I would lean toward Ares. Heimdall was placed on the bridge not for his skill, but super-senses. He does not go adventuring and often just stands there. I imagine he trains but it doesn't make up for experience.

Physical strength matters some in sword fights though less than in a fist fight. He should be more skilled due to his constant training and fighting. If worse comes to worse he has his healing factor to fall back on. Overall, I give it to Ares 6/10

#9 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

So, why he isn't with Sif now?

Sif wants Thor to focus on Asgard and when they marry settle down. One of Thor's flaws is he cannot stop adventuring. So Thor takes Sif for granted. She is either left waiting at home or is "one of the boys" when Thor goes adventuring.

#10 Posted by seekquaze (611 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725 said:

@seekquaze: Hes ill equipped fighting in space ? You brought up Earth. Also saying there are two ships doesnt make sense when you said there was only one.

When did I bring up Earth? The original post was who can Thor beat that Hulk cannot. Anything space related is something hulk is going to have trouble with if not be unable to defeat because he is ill equipped to fight in space. He has no long distance attacks. He cannot teleport. He cannot fly. The best he can do is leap and hope he can get in distance of and destroy an alien ship in one blow. And given an alien ship could potentially blast him out of the way or withstand his attack his chances of beating one are far slimier than Thor.