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@doc-holiday: I'm a pretty big DC fan myself. I'm 25 so I grew up watching the 90s - early 2000s DCAU. Teen titans, Justice League unlimited. I also saw all of young justice. I've always maintained that they write way better character focused stories than Marvel. Their writers can really get you to empathize with a characters you would never expect. They've continued this tradition all the way through the new 52. I think Batwoman and swamp thing have been some of the best comic books of the past decade. I read most of DC's comics as well as Marvel's. I agree that Marvel seems to be way more money focused than DC. Civil war II has been inexcusably stupid so far. I'm still on the fence about old man logan, but I'd put the Time Runs out story line that lead up to secret wars against anything that DC's put out in the past 20 years.

I think a lot of Marvel's events are really poorly done and obvious cash grabs, but they occasionally find something that works. DC just does a better job with that stuff. I'm on the fence about Jane as Thor but I don't necessarily think that making Sam captain America was a horrible idea. (Though until issue ten I didn't care for his solo book either) At the time steve had lost his powers, I wouldn't have minded things staying that way to be honest. He's been captain America for like 75 years, I feel like not being able to write a story without Steve as captain America would make marvel look pretty bad at this point. Also being Captain America is more than just a superhero title, it's like a public office. If Maria hill or the president tells an American one thing but Captain America tells them to do the opposite, they'd be conflicted. Captain America leads most of the superheroes in the Marvel U by default at this point. Having a non-white captain America is the comic books version of having a non white president.

Marvel has made plenty of new characters in the last 5 years alone btw, definitely more than DC has and that's just counting the X-Men. They have to make new characters because they haven't ret-conned their old ones.

Some of Marvel's recent changes seem jarring but they haven't gone full retcon the way DC has so they're gonna have a different path. DC is just better at working with existing characters.

@doc-holiday:Marvel isn't the type of company I would start a crazy flame war to defend. But I do want to say people of color or just of any demographic that isn't a straight, white man or woman with washboard abs are sensitive to this kind of thing. I get that everything Marvel does looks like a cash grab, it's a very worrying thing for any avid comic reader. But they do occasionally make good decisions and I think Miles and kamala were great decisions. They're well written characters who've had awesome solo books. I was kinda shaky on Captain Falcon, but he's grown on me. As a black person, reading CA:SM issue 10 was a beautiful, emotional moment for me.

I totally understand taking a long view and thinking about lasting change but the tidal wave of harsh reactions to these changes (almost entirely based on race) is actually super hurtful to those people who are finally getting rich, fleshed out stories written about people that look like them, as main characters even! It's a deeper pain than a lot of people will admit, it hurts so much it's hard to really describe or make analogies for.

Obviously some of these changes won't last, but some will. And as I mentioned in another thread, the previous Avengers and New Avengers runs were incredible. But they culminated with the older generation of superheroes letting the Illuminati run wild right under their noses. Dr strange alone (alongside his weird cult) literally destroyed like hundreds of alternate earths, by killing their superheroes and letting the incursions finish the job. Namor, whose such a huge d-bag it's practically a super power actually had an attack of conscience and decided to stop killing people alongside his new best friend, THANOS. Respected superhero Dr. Strange, just kept on killing people. They went beyond being heroes or villiains, they were playing god and controlling the balance of life and death on a multiversal level. The team completely crumbled, Steve and Tony spent their last moments before the universe ended punching each other in the face.

I think some new blood is sorely needed, there's no way they could screw up much worse than the previous generation.

@critic: That's a really thin excuse, like it's been pushed through a mandoline thin. And generalizing superheroes. First of all the woman spends like 90% of the preview flying or floating. How the heck is that supposed to get her that beach bikini body? If anything the fact that she never has to walk anywhere would make her even less likely to be skinny than you or me. She occasionally punches people, but as anyone with a beer gut over their belt and 30 bar fights under their belt will tell you, punching people doesn't cut down on belly fat. There are like a zillion X men alone that barely have to move or exert themselves at all to use their powers, especially floaty telekinesis users. Their physical training is supplementary as part of the Xavier School curriculum. I could start talking about things like targeted work outs and dietary changes but the point should have been made already.

@violetphoenix: I can understand that, I'm a massive X-men fan myself. The idea of them being outsiders and hated and feared is what drew me to them as well. I read pretty much every X-book good or bad. I'd love to see the previous uncanny team (scott, eva emma, morph, the cuckoos) or quentin quire or X-Factor aside from (Pip and M) make an appearance. All the hate and fear in this thread was really getting to me though.

It's interesting that you'd mention that since I've been reading pretty much every X-book in the previous decade and don't recall all this fighting the X-men and avengers have been doing between 2006 and 2016. Sure AvX was a huge thing but that's still not enough of an argument to say the avengers and X-men are enemies. There have been a decent number of X-Men on the avengers in the last 30 or so years and they usually receive no resistance when they try to join, aside from wolverine, but that may have had more to due with his history of maiming people while being mind controlled.

There's also the most recent run of avengers academy. Hank Pym was the school's most recent headmaster and arranged cross training with his students and the Xavier school. Sure the teachers from Xavier and Avengers academy had a brief battle, but that was mainly due to the fact that Hawkeye thought Magneto was still a dangerous super-villain. The fight was also broken up by Emma after about 2 minutes. Even after that Hank Pym pushed cyclops to make their student cross training a regular thing but Scott turned him down because he didn't think Hank focused on combat training enough. X-23 actually attended avengers academy for a while. If people are your enemies you don't trust them around your kids. The X- Men crossover with the prime avengers (Cap, Tony, Thor) all the time and have done a lot of work with Spider-Man. Matt Murdock has even represented a few of them in legal matters. And lets not forget that Rogue and Wasp (Hank's ex-wife) worked together in the original avengers Unity Squad it's not impossible that they discussed him at some point.

And calling the Unity Squad "government stooges" is also a stretch. They were originally established to prevent things like AvX from happening again. As a team they mainly answer to Steve, and as an organization the avengers have been private probably longer than they've been publicly funded at this point. And they're frequently at odds with the U.S. Gov't, more specifically S.H.I.E.L.D.

Also the X-Men have had to deal with the U.S. Gov't many times. Cyclops has spoken at the U.N. at least twice that I can remember. During Schism him and Logan were there speaking out against the fact that most of the world's countries had active sentinel programs and were advocating for some kind of policy to make this illegal. After Second coming Cyclops even received a medal of bravery for the X-Men's defense of SF under his leadership. Any kind of costumed hero has to learn to deal with the gov't (federal or local) it just makes life easier. When you don't deal with the gov't you get things like the SHRA or a fleet of S.H.I.E.L.D. sentinels attacking the Xavier academy.

I can understand if it's your personal preference to see Rogue with the X-men, I'd prefer that too actually. It doesn't mean that the X-men and Avengers are natural enemies though.

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I loved literally everything about this and would have definitely paid to see a longer version. The original power rangers was great for what it was, and it inspired kids (like me at the time) to do positive things with their lives. Obviously this version couldn't do that. But it was still great.

But super sentai totally has it's dark and violent moments (Read a Kamen rider book), not to this extent but it still goes farther than most of the american power rangers series.(Though power rangers in space, lost galaxy and time force got fairly dark for kids shows, I may have cried during zordon's death scene).

And out of the 3 Original power rangers that were asked about the short film 2 really liked it. The real version is for kids and this version is for adults (it even explicilty says that at the start). And it poses some real questions that the kid's version wasn't ready to answer. I consider this a really well done alternate universe.

The most recent (and arguably the worst) version of X force weren't necessarily doing the whole "good guy" thing. So instead of killing mojo like they should have, they worked with him to perform illegal surveillance on a bunch of people then sent him on his way. They may have even given him some kind of payment for his services.

Also, spider-man having a talk show may be the best idea I've heard of in my entire life. How do I petition marvel to make this into it's own comic/miniseries/TV show/Bimonthly snack basket?

@sealife: "Justice League" is the real team that's usually protecting the world and occasionally dealing with space stuff. "Justice League of America" is the redundant squad that's supposed to serve The United States' narrow political interests and convince the US gov't and groups like Argus and Cadmus that the "supers" who've saved them a zillion times over aren't secretly out to kill everyone.

I think Mags actually has a higher chance of winning in a battle where neither has any prior info considering his no prep win record VS the no prep wins of most lanterns (any color). I think he'd probably win the first battle but lose the rematch because John is one of the few lanterns (of any color) that can actually use his ring with some strategy. I'm ok with John winning the poll though because he's in that rare 0.3% of green lanterns that isn't overconfident, incompetent or unable to think on their feet in a battle.