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Invincible vs Savage Dragon

Invincible (Mark Grayson) vs Savage Dragon.

I think this is a good match up. Mark has the advantage as far as agility because he can fly but Dragon has the nod when it comes to regenerative powers.Overall durability might go to Mark and strength goes to Mark. Mark has shown he can either be crazy strong or moderately strong. Savage Dragon has pretty much sustained his regular strength level for quite some time. Here are the rules you be the judge.

Both start out on a football field and have 3 hours to fight. Both have met for the first time and MORALS ARE OFF. No previous experience fighting each other and both start without weapons. For the sake of overall experience lets say both characters are 5 years into their respective Super Hero careers when they fight. It's a 3 hour battle to the death. No honor code and no help from teammates. Who comes out alive?

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Dragon doesn't really have a way to counter bfr at least none to my knowledge beyond that I think Mark could just out muscle him & out pace him, characters like tech jacket can throw building size spaceships into the sun as well as fly interplanetary distances plus casually & consistently dodge/block lasers/bullets/blitzing enemies & he freely admits to being weaker/slower than Grayson (before eos mind u) so a bloodlusted invincible is gonna stomp hard

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Invincible very easily. Even early Invincible would beat Savage Dragon.

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@kaijuking: Just a heads-up, info dump coming your way in a day or so on this=)

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@wyldsong: to be fair Dragon had worse time with Solar Man than Mark did as well in Dragons comic. If Mark is Superman then Dragon is Aquaman :)

Also flight and legit mach 1000s is hard to argue Dragon dealing with vs a serious Mark.

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@kaijuking: I will try to remember to revisit this topic in a few days, and while I'm not saying Dragon would win...he has rocked, drawn blood from, and gone toe to toe with foes that could be equated to Supreme levels.

The evil Invincible fight was off panel, all we see was Dragon was one of the few left standing, and there is little else to go off of there. To be fair to Dragon my friend, an off panel fight in a book that is not his own, isn't a really good measuring stick for a fight between him and Mark=)

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Dragon had issues with a far weaker evil Invincible much less current Mark.

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Invincible prods him

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@whacknasty: Yep.
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Invincible is stronger and would defeat Savage Dragon.

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I thought Dragon was more like 50-75 ton range. Doesn't make a difference thought Invincible still stomps.

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@CitizenBane: Damn that pretty much says it all. Thanks for that post.

Thats just an awesome picture (not saying that would happen to Mark)

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@CitizenBane said:

@SavageDragon said:

I know in current Invincible continuity before Mark had the Viltrumite virus he was way strong probably able to lift over 200 tons.

Over 400.

There we go. Still much, much stronger than Savage.
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@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@SavageDragon: I got it from the lettercolumn of a somewhat old issue of Savage Dragon.

It says the same in his companion book which came out way back in 2002. I'm pretty sure by know he should be at least 20 tons stronger if not more.

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@SavageDragon said:

I know in current Invincible continuity before Mark had the Viltrumite virus he was way strong probably able to lift over 200 tons.

Over 400.

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@SavageDragon: I got it from the lettercolumn of a somewhat old issue of Savage Dragon.

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Give Savage his God Wars Armor and I'm sure he would win. Otherwise I don't know. Dragon has taken out opponents who outclass him before. Although I'm inclined to say invincible against him in base.

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@SavageDragon said:

@The_Mayhem_Theory: Just wondering for personal nerd reasons where are you guys looking up the class power rankings. I was under the impression Dragon could lift around 40-48 tons. I know in current Invincible continuity before Mark had the Viltrumite virus he was way strong probably able to lift over 200 tons. But where were you looking at stats i was using my information based on the ongoing series.

The comics series. And if I recall correctly, Omni-Man is the one who stated that.
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Invincible is vastly, vastly, vastly stronger than Savage Dragon.

At least he was before Invincible #91.

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@The_Mayhem_Theory: Just wondering for personal nerd reasons where are you guys looking up the class power rankings. I was under the impression Dragon could lift around 40-48 tons. I know in current Invincible continuity before Mark had the Viltrumite virus he was way strong probably able to lift over 200 tons. But where were you looking at stats i was using my information based on the ongoing series.

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@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

Dragon's strong, but he's only Class 34. Invincible is probably stronger than that.

Invincible is Class 100+ (around the 600 ton range, perhaps more due to recent events).
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@whacknasty: yeah i can see that. Invincible has the overall speed and can probably fly so fast into Dragon that he could KO him if not worse...unless Dragon dodges lol.

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@Nefarious said:

I beg to differ.

Lol. The calm, matter of fact feel of the disagreement here is very funny to me for some reason.

I'll say Invincible by a combo of speed/strength in addition to the already mentioned flight.

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Dragon's strong, but he's only Class 34. Invincible is probably stronger than that.

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I beg to differ.