Saren

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Destroyed doom bots that were tanking Human Torch supernova easily....(planet level)

Manipulated and channeled magic that was killing Magik and harmed a demon entity(planet at least)

I might regret getting into this, but what on earth makes you think these are planetary feats? Plenty of things have tanked Johnny's supernova that weren't planetary. Annihilus is about mid-tier at best and he's tanked Johnny's supernova effortlessly.

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@rem said:

absolutely no way to even prove that he did it by himself

Who would help him? All the other supers on Earth are basically gnats compared to him.

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@thebestofthebest: Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes #16. She destroyed one of Neptune's moons (I think it was Neptune) by flying through it at 98% of the speed of light.

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I think Injustice Superman is probably faster in terms of combat speed, because blitzing an entire army of Parademons spread across a planet is a very impressive feat, but Post-Crisis Supergirl is just much stronger and tougher. Superman was very badly injured by a nuclear explosion, whereas Supergirl could destroy moons by flying through them and survived New Krypton exploding around her without much harm.

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Rowling certainly considers Voldemort superior, and while Dumbledore is certainly a formidable opponent, the fact remains that Grindelwald lost to him even with the advantage of the most powerful wand in the world.

And lol at conjuring Fiendfyre being an impressive feat for Grindelwald - even Crabbe could conjure Fiendfyre, and he's repeatedly described as being dumb as a rock.

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Justice League #17 had a retcon with J'onn and Lex being friends for a brief period in their childhood. It was certainly interesting that Lex can't remember it anymore, I think it demonstrates how much he's changed and can't go back to what he was, but I'm scratching my head as to how this supposed to fit in with the story in DC's winter special where J'onn met Kal Kent while protecting the young Clark from King Kosmos. J'onn was clearly an adult in that story when Clark was a boy, and Clark and Lex should be roughly the same age, or separated by a few years at most. Or does that story take place in the pre-Flashpoint continuity?

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@del_torro: I mean typical because it's literally just what they did with Legion back during Mike Carey's Legacy run.

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#8  Edited By Saren

Nate didn't kill them. He put them in a pocket universe.

Typical.

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the telekinetics and even storm could protect themselves against a planet destroying blast. storms winds have been able to deflect Siena blaze energy that was described as being able to destroy the planet I believe. I'm sure Jean with betsy working together could do the same.

Nate Grey literally just killed Storm and all the other X-Men put together by vaporizing them with a telekinetic blast. He didn't have to exert planet-busting force to do it. Why would Thanos need to?

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#10  Edited By Saren

@morpheus_: Well, it seemed straightforward the first time I read it, and then I saw someone claim Lois was actually telling her father she's been cuckolding Clark with Superman's child, and I thought "Surely even Bendis wouldn't have written that, right?".