@AgeofHurricane: Hell yeah. I think it affected T'Challa the most. It appeared as if he was holding back, because all of his moves were defensive and tailored to restrain Storm. He didn't want to inflict physical damage on her. I'm just happy that Marvel sealed the deal on his fighting skill level. Forty-something years in the making.

@Static Shock said:

@AgeofHurricane: You loved every second of that fight, I bet.

OFC i facking did. Every single second, but, at the same time...it was incredibly sad to see such a marriage come to an end, as the fight progressed the thought of "why the heck did Marvel waste everysingle opportunity they had with this relationship" was nagging. Especially on that page where they each shared their own monologues.

This panel got to me the most, because it was so damn true.

@AgeofHurricane: You loved every second of that fight, I bet.

Just read AvX VS #5

LOL.

@Mercy_ said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

Marvel NO! ?

Intentional typo?

Mhm.

@jhazzroucher said:

BP needs to lead the Avengers!

I don't care too much about what team he leads/gets on. Shuri on the other hand.................I need more of her

@AgeofHurricane said:

Marvel NO! ?

Intentional typo?

@X35 said:

Great. Now Wakanda can get a real queen.

I don't even know what this means.

On that note, what is BP doing during Marvel NO! ?

BP needs to lead the Avengers!

Oh no! poor Storm! how can BP do such a horrible pffffthahahahaha! ah man, couldn't keep a straight face for that one.

@AgeofHurricane said:

@fodigg said:

I fail to see how Storm's popularity would've made Black Panther more popular when they didn't do a damn thing with that relationship.

Lol. The only valid response to that asinine argument.

How does he benefit exactly if they barely promote it? If, instead, they send him off to be fake Daredevil?

@fodigg said:

I fail to see how Storm's popularity would've made Black Panther more popular when they didn't do a damn thing with that relationship.

Very precisely said...agreed & cosigned.

@Umbraa said:

Storm *might* be more popular, but at this point not by much. His stuff is also playing on T.V, on Netflicks, on DVD. He has solo comics and even in this event, the biggest for Marvel to date..he's a star. Storm isn't. He has constant twitter chatter. If his movie is made (phase 3), his popularity will continue to grow and that has nothing to do with Storm. His trajectory is on the up with his hinted role in Marvel Now and Hickman possibly handling him. I guess we can wait and see who ends up in a flag ship team and what role they have, then talk,

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

That is incredibly opinion based, and your opinion is very biased "not that there is anything wrong with that" I do believe that Storm is more well known in media outside of comics, but in comics I would say they are currently pretty even in popularity. I think Storm has held popularity longer than BP through the X-Men, but he has had several good comic runs over the last decade and has gained a new fanbase. Some of that I will give credit to Storm, because I had no opinion of him until he married Ororo, and because of her I picked up his series "what Marvel wanted" and he became a character I really liked. I assume I am not the only person to do so.

Both are great characters I see no reason to try and prove one is better than the other. Lets just be happy Marvel made both of them.

In conclusion, Storm is more popular.

But BP has his own solo comics and cartoon series and an upcoming film. : ) NOw a BP film may have not been confirmed but definitely it will come, we just don't know when.

I really hope BP and Storm will have a major role after AvX. : )

BP leading the Avengers is what I really want to happen. He needs more exposure to Avengers comics.

As for Storm, Marvel should also give her her own solo comics.

More power to the two!

@fodigg said:

I fail to see how Storm's popularity would've made Black Panther more popular when they didn't do a damn thing with that relationship.

Lol. The only valid response to that asinine argument.

I just don't like the fact that they did nothing with the two of them. Why marry them and not try any freakin thing with them? I also hate the fact that most comic book writers don't try to give any marriage besides Reed/Sue and Peter/Mary Jane (before the post civil war screw job) the time of day. Give them marital problems to deal with during AvX and have them work through it after in the actual comic but no! 'It's not working so just erase it!'

Storm *might* be more popular, but at this point not by much. His stuff is also playing on T.V, on Netflicks, on DVD. He has solo comics and even in this event, the biggest for Marvel to date..he's a star. Storm isn't. He has constant twitter chatter. If his movie is made (phase 3), his popularity will continue to grow and that has nothing to do with Storm. His trajectory is on the up with his hinted role in Marvel Now and Hickman possibly handling him. I guess we can wait and see who ends up in a flag ship team and what role they have, then talk,

I fail to see how Storm's popularity would've made Black Panther more popular when they didn't do a damn thing with that relationship.

Storm *might* be more popular, but at this point not by much. His stuff is also playing on T.V, on Netflicks, on DVD. He has solo comics and even in this event, the biggest for Marvel to date..he's a star. Storm isn't. He has constant twitter chatter. If his movie is made (phase 3), his popularity will continue to grow and that has nothing to do with Storm. His trajectory is on the up with his hinted role in Marvel Now and Hickman possibly handling him. I guess we can wait and see who ends up in a flag ship team and what role they have, then talk,

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher: My opinion isn't the same as yours I said she was more well known, and she attracted more readers, I did not say anything about her being more popular than him. At one time yes I would say she was because the X-Men were once as big as the Avengers are now, but I say as of now they are pretty equal. I do not credit her to him being more popular just more exposed, If Black Panther was a crap character he wouldn't have been given his own series in the first place. She didn't make him more popular I cannot stress that enough.

but didn't you and i just became a fan of his?

Sigh, I'm going to try and reword this one last time. A character who isn't worth reading about isn't going to be popular no matter who you pair them with, but it does mean that more people may pick up the series, because of the other charcater. If Matter eater lad is paired up with Wonder Woman and given his own series than WW fans are going to pick up the book, will they like Matter Eater lad probably not, but they bought the book for her. When we read Black Panther's series with Storm we were exposed to a character we were less familiar with and we liked him. We owe picking up the title to Ororo, but not liking BP himself. I like BP because I think he is a good charcater and even without Storm I like reading about him. I would not however, like to read about Matter Eater Lad if Wonder Woman wasn't involved.

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher: My opinion isn't the same as yours I said she was more well known, and she attracted more readers, I did not say anything about her being more popular than him. At one time yes I would say she was because the X-Men were once as big as the Avengers are now, but I say as of now they are pretty equal. I do not credit her to him being more popular just more exposed, If Black Panther was a crap character he wouldn't have been given his own series in the first place. She didn't make him more popular I cannot stress that enough.

but didn't you and i just became a fan of his?

@jhazzroucher: My opinion isn't the same as yours I said she was more well known, and she attracted more readers, I did not say anything about her being more popular than him. At one time yes I would say she was because the X-Men were once as big as the Avengers are now, but I say as of now they are pretty equal. I do not credit her to him being more popular just more exposed, If Black Panther was a crap character he wouldn't have been given his own series in the first place. She didn't make him more popular I cannot stress that enough.

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

That is incredibly opinion based, and your opinion is very biased "not that there is anything wrong with that" I do believe that Storm is more well known in media outside of comics, but in comics I would say they are currently pretty even in popularity. I think Storm has held popularity longer than BP through the X-Men, but he has had several good comic runs over the last decade and has gained a new fanbase. Some of that I will give credit to Storm, because I had no opinion of him until he married Ororo, and because of her I picked up his series "what Marvel wanted" and he became a character I really liked. I assume I am not the only person to do so.

Both are great characters I see no reason to try and prove one is better than the other. Lets just be happy Marvel made both of them.

I'm not being biased. I also like BP, after the marriage though.

Your opinion is the same as mine when it comes to who is more known and why we know BP more, because of the marriage.

But I'm not saying it's all because of Storm. Storm somehow helped him become more popular.

Your love of Storm often clouds your judgement in my opinion. I don't think the marriage made him more well known I knew who he was before that, it just exposed him to more readers. It was meant to make both stronger and in some ways it did and in other ways didn't. It made Ororo more centered in the MU, gave BP new readership, and allowed both to be Fantastic Four members. BP may still not be as well known, but I see that changing in the future because he is a part of the Avengers and their history and the Avengers are the it thing in Marvel right now.

Sorry but your statements tell me that i'm not clouding my judgment.

Your right it proves you have select hearing or selective reading in this case. You are trying to prove that Storm is more popular than BP, when I am trying to meet you half way by saying she helped his readership. Deadpool and Cable shared a title and it helped both characters that doesn't mean the Cable is more popular than Deadpool, it proves Marvel likes money and put them together to attract new readership. If Storm was given her own title married to lets say Nightcrawler because he can't quite hold a series I would not claim he made her more popular in her own series. He just made more people want to read it, because he has his own fanbase.

My point is, your opinion is the same as mine, you're just saying it euphemistically. i am replying back because i have no intention of making BP fans feel bad, I'm just saying that Storm somehow made him become more popular or more known, and there's nothing wrong with it.

"attract new readership"= not only comic readers knew about the marriage but also non-comic readers which they only knew the x-men including Storm.

just wanna make sure you're reading it slowly and that your imagining my voice is angel-like. I'm not mad ok? : )

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

That is incredibly opinion based, and your opinion is very biased "not that there is anything wrong with that" I do believe that Storm is more well known in media outside of comics, but in comics I would say they are currently pretty even in popularity. I think Storm has held popularity longer than BP through the X-Men, but he has had several good comic runs over the last decade and has gained a new fanbase. Some of that I will give credit to Storm, because I had no opinion of him until he married Ororo, and because of her I picked up his series "what Marvel wanted" and he became a character I really liked. I assume I am not the only person to do so.

Both are great characters I see no reason to try and prove one is better than the other. Lets just be happy Marvel made both of them.

I'm not being biased. I also like BP, after the marriage though.

Your opinion is the same as mine when it comes to who is more known and why we know BP more, because of the marriage.

But I'm not saying it's all because of Storm. Storm somehow helped him become more popular.

Your love of Storm often clouds your judgement in my opinion. I don't think the marriage made him more well known I knew who he was before that, it just exposed him to more readers. It was meant to make both stronger and in some ways it did and in other ways didn't. It made Ororo more centered in the MU, gave BP new readership, and allowed both to be Fantastic Four members. BP may still not be as well known, but I see that changing in the future because he is a part of the Avengers and their history and the Avengers are the it thing in Marvel right now.

Sorry but your statements tell me that i'm not clouding my judgment.

Your right it proves you have select hearing or selective reading in this case. You are trying to prove that Storm is more popular than BP, when I am trying to meet you half way by saying she helped his readership. Deadpool and Cable shared a title and it helped both characters that doesn't mean the Cable is more popular than Deadpool, it proves Marvel likes money and put them together to attract new readership. If Storm was given her own title married to lets say Nightcrawler because he can't quite hold a series I would not claim he made her more popular in her own series. He just made more people want to read it, because he has his own fanbase.

My point is, your opinion is the same as mine, you're just saying it euphemistically. i am replying back because i have no intention of making BP fans feel bad, I'm just saying that Storm somehow made him become more popular or more known, and there's nothing wrong with it.

"attract new readership"= not only comic readers knew about the marriage but also non-comic readers which they only knew the x-men including Storm.

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

That is incredibly opinion based, and your opinion is very biased "not that there is anything wrong with that" I do believe that Storm is more well known in media outside of comics, but in comics I would say they are currently pretty even in popularity. I think Storm has held popularity longer than BP through the X-Men, but he has had several good comic runs over the last decade and has gained a new fanbase. Some of that I will give credit to Storm, because I had no opinion of him until he married Ororo, and because of her I picked up his series "what Marvel wanted" and he became a character I really liked. I assume I am not the only person to do so.

Both are great characters I see no reason to try and prove one is better than the other. Lets just be happy Marvel made both of them.

I'm not being biased. I also like BP, after the marriage though.

Your opinion is the same as mine when it comes to who is more known and why we know BP more, because of the marriage.

But I'm not saying it's all because of Storm. Storm somehow helped him become more popular.

Your love of Storm often clouds your judgement in my opinion. I don't think the marriage made him more well known I knew who he was before that, it just exposed him to more readers. It was meant to make both stronger and in some ways it did and in other ways didn't. It made Ororo more centered in the MU, gave BP new readership, and allowed both to be Fantastic Four members. BP may still not be as well known, but I see that changing in the future because he is a part of the Avengers and their history and the Avengers are the it thing in Marvel right now.

Sorry but your statements tell me that i'm not clouding my judgment.

Your right it proves you have select hearing or selective reading in this case. You are trying to prove that Storm is more popular than BP, when I am trying to meet you half way by saying she helped his readership. Deadpool and Cable shared a title and it helped both characters that doesn't mean the Cable is more popular than Deadpool, it proves Marvel likes money and put them together to attract new readership. If Storm was given her own title married to lets say Nightcrawler because he can't quite hold a series I would not claim he made her more popular in her own series. He just made more people want to read it, because he has his own fanbase.

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

That is incredibly opinion based, and your opinion is very biased "not that there is anything wrong with that" I do believe that Storm is more well known in media outside of comics, but in comics I would say they are currently pretty even in popularity. I think Storm has held popularity longer than BP through the X-Men, but he has had several good comic runs over the last decade and has gained a new fanbase. Some of that I will give credit to Storm, because I had no opinion of him until he married Ororo, and because of her I picked up his series "what Marvel wanted" and he became a character I really liked. I assume I am not the only person to do so.

Both are great characters I see no reason to try and prove one is better than the other. Lets just be happy Marvel made both of them.

I'm not being biased. I also like BP, after the marriage though.

Your opinion is the same as mine when it comes to who is more known and why we know BP more, because of the marriage.

But I'm not saying it's all because of Storm. Storm somehow helped him become more popular.

Your love of Storm often clouds your judgement in my opinion. I don't think the marriage made him more well known I knew who he was before that, it just exposed him to more readers. It was meant to make both stronger and in some ways it did and in other ways didn't. It made Ororo more centered in the MU, gave BP new readership, and allowed both to be Fantastic Four members. BP may still not be as well known, but I see that changing in the future because he is a part of the Avengers and their history and the Avengers are the it thing in Marvel right now.

Sorry but your statements tell me that i'm not clouding my judgment.

@jhazzroucher said:

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

That is incredibly opinion based, and your opinion is very biased "not that there is anything wrong with that" I do believe that Storm is more well known in media outside of comics, but in comics I would say they are currently pretty even in popularity. I think Storm has held popularity longer than BP through the X-Men, but he has had several good comic runs over the last decade and has gained a new fanbase. Some of that I will give credit to Storm, because I had no opinion of him until he married Ororo, and because of her I picked up his series "what Marvel wanted" and he became a character I really liked. I assume I am not the only person to do so.

Both are great characters I see no reason to try and prove one is better than the other. Lets just be happy Marvel made both of them.

I'm not being biased. I also like BP, after the marriage though.

Your opinion is the same as mine when it comes to who is more known and why we know BP more, because of the marriage.

But I'm not saying it's all because of Storm. Storm somehow helped him become more popular.

Your love of Storm often clouds your judgement in my opinion. I don't think the marriage made him more well known I knew who he was before that, it just exposed him to more readers. It was meant to make both stronger and in some ways it did and in other ways didn't. It made Ororo more centered in the MU, gave BP new readership, and allowed both to be Fantastic Four members. BP may still not be as well known, but I see that changing in the future because he is a part of the Avengers and their history and the Avengers are the it thing in Marvel right now.

@Blood1991 said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

That is incredibly opinion based, and your opinion is very biased "not that there is anything wrong with that" I do believe that Storm is more well known in media outside of comics, but in comics I would say they are currently pretty even in popularity. I think Storm has held popularity longer than BP through the X-Men, but he has had several good comic runs over the last decade and has gained a new fanbase. Some of that I will give credit to Storm, because I had no opinion of him until he married Ororo, and because of her I picked up his series "what Marvel wanted" and he became a character I really liked. I assume I am not the only person to do so.

Both are great characters I see no reason to try and prove one is better than the other. Lets just be happy Marvel made both of them.

I'm not being biased. I also like BP, after the marriage though.

Your opinion is the same as mine when it comes to who is more known and why we know BP more, because of the marriage.

But I'm not saying it's all because of Storm. Storm somehow helped him become more popular.

@jhazzroucher said:

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

That is incredibly opinion based, and your opinion is very biased "not that there is anything wrong with that" I do believe that Storm is more well known in media outside of comics, but in comics I would say they are currently pretty even in popularity. I think Storm has held popularity longer than BP through the X-Men, but he has had several good comic runs over the last decade and has gained a new fanbase. Some of that I will give credit to Storm, because I had no opinion of him until he married Ororo, and because of her I picked up his series "what Marvel wanted" and he became a character I really liked. I assume I am not the only person to do so.

Both are great characters I see no reason to try and prove one is better than the other. Lets just be happy Marvel made both of them.

@Umbraa said:

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

I was saying about the popularity of X-men over Avengers before the marriage.

Storm is more popular than Black Panther even if the difference is only person.

Right now, Storm is still more popular. Storm's last showing may be the x-men anime but you should also know that x-men films and old x-men cartoon series are being replayed on television.

Jazz, that's you and your out look. And at this point the X-men are not more popular. There are 1 Billion reasons why you are wrong. They are Disney/Marvel's flagship, their cash cow..while fox runs the x-men into the ground. T'challa upward trajectory is looking great and important to Marvel NOW. He's also going to join the Avengers Assembled cartoon, has a script being worked on. None of that is because of Storm or you personally not knowing him before he was married. Storm last showing on in animation ( the anime) was terrible, much like the films. Most people dont read comics...they know her from the movies and animated stuff...how most people will know! T'challa?..his awesome showings on his solo animated marvel knights, Avengers: EMH and Ironman:Armored Aventures. That's why he has trended globlally and nationally when talks about his film. That has nothing to do with Storm.

@AgeofHurricane said:

@jubilee042 said:

I sad that their marriage had to be annulled but with the development they were given this was gonna happen............

@AgeofHurricane said:

If storm married forge in the future then i so want her to invite BP with this song played in the background during the whole wedding

LMAO. I can TOTALLY picture that happening.

I prefer a different song.

@SandMan_ said:

Guess Mephisto was busy this time.

Yeah esp after d whooping BP gv him last time dey met....dis must b paybak..

If this is really the end of the relationship I hope he stays single for a while.

@Nelomaxwell said:

Now he's gonna end up with white girl. SMH

Not just yet......remember Photon/Monica Rambeau had a serious crush on BP/Tchalla pre-marriage.:wink:

@Nelomaxwell said:

Now he's gonna end up with white girl. SMH

Not just yet......remember Photon/Monica Rambeau had a serious crush on BP/Tchalla pre-marriage.:wink:

2 b honest, it is as if Marvel just tried as hard as dey cud 2 sink d marriage bcuz other d Hudlin & d l8 McDuffie's very brief run NOBODY @ Marvel wantd dat marriage 2 exist excluding Liss who tried 2 use her 4 a few issues in his BP run.

BP was written as Cap's lapdog just only 2 b a terrible husband & l8r hv dem both fightin Wakanda(off-panel) just like dat with BP actively storming Utopia as did Storm in Wakanda?

Dat is d most illogical sense we/SZ hv ever seen...BP & Storm r clearly above dis stupidity, irrespective of their affiliations dey both know each other well enuff 2 get 2gether & initiate an alternate direction 2 resolve dis whole AvX madness. Most certainly sum Avengers AND Xmen wud agree with dem(those who simply dont wanna c d Xmen & Avengers fighting each other) hence d formation of a separate 3rd faction.

Dis is d EXACT same problem we/SZ had with hw Storm was written in Schism.

Hell given hw Cap was or is behaving BP shud just damn right take over d Avengers.....same goes 4 Strom & d Xmen(ALL of dem).

Seriously 4 sum1 who can fly @ faster dan sound speeds is it dat impossible 4 Storm 2 feature recurring in 2 places(BP & X-buks) @ d same time while Wolverine, Beast, IM, Cap, Thor, Spiderman, etc r given a pass.....dat is just plain sexist if not intently anti-marital.

Dis marriage was an opportunity 2 create a team combining both Avengers & Xmen lead by Storm & BP.

It was a grand opportunity hv both xcters explore both worlds....Storm got 2 b an F4 & an Avenger(as terrible as she was written by Bendis) wat did BP get?

Not even an invitation 2 d X-mansion or Utopia. let alone being a recurring xcter in any X-buk or X-team.

Dey cud hv switched places leaving Storm leading Wakanda as Queen while liasing with d F4 & Avengers as BP is liasing d x-world across d various x-buks while shown 2 keep regular contact with each other(BP consulting Storm on d various Xmen & sub-teams as Storm does d same on Wakanda & d Avengers).

Dis cud hv been doen 4 just 8-12 issues perhaps even leading in2 a A, X & F4 multi-franchise crossover with BP & Storm right in d middle of it.

Uncanny Avengers is basically an extension of Storm & BP & guess wat........none of dem r on dat team & even if dey were 4 sum reason dat wud b d only buk u might c dem in. Or evenif dey appeared in any other buk dey wud b cheerleaders of d wallpaper club.

Seriously MARVEL cud hv done A LOT BETTA & we aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall know it.

but we all both know that the x-men are more popular than the Avengers before and during the marriage for comic and non comic readers. and BP wasn't a main character in Avengers comics.

I don't even remember having a BP trading card eventhough I collected a lot before. I didn't have a complete collection but I should have at least seen his image on a series/trading card, or else i just forgot that i had one.

I wouldn't care to know BP's real name too but because he is the husband of Storm ( which i hated it happened but it grew on me since it is happening) so i have to know him more and of course i like him more now even if their marriage has been annuled

@jhazzroucher: Nope, your differences doesn't speak for all

That's nonsense. Such a narrow view of "well know"...and might have made you aware. I don't think you can make that statement.

@Mykhael said:

Just because Storm is more well known doesn't mean that she helped him.

Storm's involvment may have introduced you to the Panther, but I doubt she helped him much most people who read comics at least know about the Panther.

Avengers: EMH, and Iron man etc are doing more for Panther than that wedding did.ly

I know what you're trying to point out but a lot of people also know the x-men only and perhaps a few avengers during the marriage.

and BP will be mentioned on x-men forums of any comic sites so that still helped BP to become more known.

Guess Mephisto was busy this time.

Just because Storm is more well known doesn't mean that she helped him.

Storm's involvment may have introduced you to the Panther, but I doubt she helped him much most people who read comics at least know about the Panther.

Avengers: EMH, and Iron man etc are doing more for Panther than that wedding did.

Perhaps, saying BP became "more known" will make you agree with me.

@jhazzroucher: It's ok, we'll bring you up to speed, you've been in the dark on purpose for way to long

Well I guess you are everybody? Most people know Storm from: the 90's toon, the X-men movies because of Halle Berry and X-men Evolution and the X-men Anime. That's Storm to most people. T'challa has his OWN SOLO animation, starred in another, and guess stared in Ironman Armored Adventures. He had trended world wide on twitter. That has nothing to do with Storm. And his push currently, as Axel Alonso said..he's very important in Marvel Now. Storm has nothing to do with that. And everyone doesn't play those crappy crap-com games.

@Illuminatus said:

@jhazzroucher said:

Yes BP has made Storm more popular. Because of his marriage to Storm, i was able to know his real name and know more of his stories. Because of the marriage, that was actually the only time i knew that BP is in marvel Comics. he also showed up in Storm's story ending in MVC3 and UMVC3.

Are you frickin' kidding me?

what i say is true. even players who played marvel vs capcom 3 didn't know who Black panther is.

@Illuminatus said:

@jhazzroucher said:

Yes BP has made Storm more popular. Because of his marriage to Storm, i was able to know his real name and know more of his stories. Because of the marriage, that was actually the only time i knew that BP is in marvel Comics. he also showed up in Storm's story ending in MVC3 and UMVC3.

Are you frickin' kidding me?

what i say is true. even players who played marvel vs capcom 3 didn't know who Black panther is.