The New X-Men?

With thousands of new mutants discovering their powers inside the pages of the current X-titles, it seems the perfect time for new recruits to be joining the numerous X-Men teams. All New X-Men have already shown a group of 'X-Men' (made up of Cyclops, Emma Frost, Magneto and Magik) saving mutants who have just discovered their powers from their certain fate. This group, I previously thought were going to be evil and I know the team has been formed to oppose the X-Men, but they seem to be trying to do what their doing for the better of the new mutants. But they are also killing innocents in the process, so that doesn't exactly make them the heroes. I loved the first issue of Bendis' run and I think Uncanny X-Mne coming out in February will be based over Cyclops and his team, whereas All New X-Men will focus on Jean's return and the effect that'll have on the others, as well as Beast's certain death, I'm guessing the old beast will replace him as it shouldn't be too long till the old Hank undergoes his first mutation.

Working their Magik
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Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@russia599 said:

I loved the first issue of Bendis' run and I think Uncanny X-Mne coming out in February will be based over Cyclops and his team, whereas All New X-Men will focus on Jean's return and the effect that'll have on the others, as well as Beast's certain death, I'm guessing the old beast will replace him as it shouldn't be too long till the old Hank undergoes his first mutation.

Beast is going to die?!
Posted by imperial90

Eh, I don't think we can say killing, we weren't shown that happening, injuring police officers though most definitely.

Posted by AgeofHurricane

@Rabbitearsblog: He's currently devolving. Again.

Posted by SoA

i was (still am) looking foward to a brother hood of mutants led by cyclops , with magneto , magik , emma , namor(?) filling in the ranks

Posted by Rickbarry

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Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@Rickbarry said:

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Posted by CerealKiller

just read it today, and i really liked it. I wish they would have explained how emma got out of jail, but maybe they will eventually let us know how that happened in future issues. and even if they don't its not THAT big of a deal i guess, since its not hard to imagine it just went down as a 'boom, we blew the walls down. simple' kind of thing. I wouldn't have minded seeing a panel of Emma stepping out of the rubble of a destroyed prison and calmly insisting someone fetch her designer shoes immediately haha.

the bit about beast possibly dying was surprising, but pretty good for drama i guess. Plus it makes the whole 'im going to go back in time and be reckless and bring the old gang back' thing more of a reasonable decision on his part, by which i mean he's kind of in the 'fuck it im going to die anyway why not just do it' kind of mindset, instead of the rational beast who probably would think harder about messing with time travel. thats my take on it anyway.

and this is just me, but when i saw the new female mutant introduced i got really excited by the fact shes an aussie girl! australian characters are rare enough in comics as it is, least alone a female one who is likely my age (and also they're not something ridiculous like captain kangaroo) and yes this is a sad case of 'omg shes just like me i instantly like her' hahaha. i know its silly but i cant help it! I hope she's awesome :D

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

@russia599: I don't think they were killing anybody, just beating them up then doing a runner

Posted by KarachiRiot

The last line bothered me, what Mutant Genocide is Beast talking about?

Posted by XsPectre28

i didnt know that beast was going to die too........ SMH. also i thought Magik's soul sword could only effect mystical beings magic powers & demons..... why is she always swinging it at her enemies if it has no effect on them

Posted by PhoenixoftheTides

@XsPectre28 said:

i didnt know that beast was going to die too........ SMH. also i thought Magik's soul sword could only effect mystical beings magic powers & demons..... why is she always swinging it at her enemies if it has no effect on them

She even did this back in the '80s against normal enemies. The only thing I can think of is that it operates as a regular sword against non-mystical beings. It has stunned or knocked regular or superhuman people unconscious, as well. I think it depends on what she wants to do.

Posted by aaunderoath

@KarachiRiot said:

The last line bothered me, what Mutant Genocide is Beast talking about?

I think he was referring to what Storm was talking about. How if they confront Cyclops with guns blazing it'll start a mutant civil war, which will lead to countless deaths. Or at least thats how I interpreted it.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@russia599: I don't think they were killing anybody, just beating them up then doing a runner

Yea it looks like they're just scooping up new mutants being treated poorly/unfairly. Cyke seems to just want equal rights so far.

Posted by russia599

@SoA: I doubt Namor will be getting involved since he is lined up to join the New Avengers, but he would be a kick ass member of the brotherhood.

Posted by Skaddix

@PhoenixoftheTides said:

@XsPectre28 said:

i didnt know that beast was going to die too........ SMH. also i thought Magik's soul sword could only effect mystical beings magic powers & demons..... why is she always swinging it at her enemies if it has no effect on them

She even did this back in the '80s against normal enemies. The only thing I can think of is that it operates as a regular sword against non-mystical beings. It has stunned or knocked regular or superhuman people unconscious, as well. I think it depends on what she wants to do.

Lets just say it affects anything with a soul.

Posted by IllyanaRasputin

I don't see what Cyclops is doing wrong that Storm and the rest of the X-Men have to bother with him? New Mutants are populating around the globe. They're smarter than Wolverine and his School and are finding them before them and they're recruiting them, what seems to be the problem? I mean if it weren't for Cyclops and his team Eva would be in prison or worse dead, and that guy was getting interrogated because he saved someones life? Cyclops and his crew are just saving mutants - Wolverine and his team are just jealous they're doing it in style ;)

Posted by Blood1991

@IllyanaRasputin said:

I don't see what Cyclops is doing wrong that Storm and the rest of the X-Men have to bother with him? New Mutants are populating around the globe. They're smarter than Wolverine and his School and are finding them before them and they're recruiting them, what seems to be the problem? I mean if it weren't for Cyclops and his team Eva would be in prison or worse dead, and that guy was getting interrogated because he saved someones life? Cyclops and his crew are just saving mutants - Wolverine and his team are just jealous they're doing it in style ;)

I disagree, it is dissolving any and all progress the X-men had made towards Xavier's dream. The whole thing is like reading a 70's X-Book starring the Brotherhood of Evil mutants. They are hurting people and when people get mad the school will be their target. I understand his side, but Malcom X was wrong and so is Scott now.

Posted by IllyanaRasputin

@Blood1991: The school has always been a target. The school was a target way before Cyclops went all Brotherhood. And the Jean Grey School has gotten attacked on countless occasions. If anything Cyclops and his brotherhood and his new recruits will be the safe ones.

Posted by Blood1991

@IllyanaRasputin said:

@Blood1991: The school has always been a target. The school was a target way before Cyclops went all Brotherhood. And the Jean Grey School has gotten attacked on countless occasions. If anything Cyclops and his brotherhood and his new recruits will be the safe ones.

They will be the safe ones, when they are the ones committing crimes. Yes the school has been attacked, but humans were tolerating it even going inside. Hell a teacher applied. Now they are going to be even more threatened by them. So yes Scott is safe to make the others a target. It is just selfish and blind. He was never meant to see the fruit of his labor. None of the original X-men were or the Uncanny team. It takes generations to build equality and tolerance. People die, blood is split it is the way our world works, but we know we can achieve peace and understanding to a degree through promoting peace. I understand he wants to save them, but there are better ways, peaceful ways. With the Avengers teaming up with the X-Men to aid in the mutant struggle it doesn't have much purpose in my opinion.

Edited by IllyanaRasputin

@Blood1991 said:

@IllyanaRasputin said:

@Blood1991: The school has always been a target. The school was a target way before Cyclops went all Brotherhood. And the Jean Grey School has gotten attacked on countless occasions. If anything Cyclops and his brotherhood and his new recruits will be the safe ones.

They will be the safe ones, when they are the ones committing crimes. Yes the school has been attacked, but humans were tolerating it even going inside. Hell a teacher applied. Now they are going to be even more threatened by them. So yes Scott is safe to make the others a target. It is just selfish and blind. He was never meant to see the fruit of his labor. None of the original X-men were or the Uncanny team. It takes generations to build equality and tolerance. People die, blood is split it is the way our world works, but we know we can achieve peace and understanding to a degree through promoting peace. I understand he wants to save them, but there are better ways, peaceful ways. With the Avengers teaming up with the X-Men to aid in the mutant struggle it doesn't have much purpose in my opinion.

I personally feel as though Xavier's dream will never come true so why try? I mean I know Scott still has hope that's why he told his prison mate about Wolverine's school, but I mean realistically humans and mutants will never coexist. It's all about survival it's always been about survival. The school is a target within its self and will always be a target whether Cyclops keeps doing what he's doing or not. The Avengers and X-Men teaming up will only last for awhile. I mean realistically you saw what happened during Civil War, one screw up the blames all on Super Heroes and Mutants this time around. I see where you're thoughts are coming from but I'm team Cyclops and his Brotherhood, it's all about survival man, and as Magneto once said, peace was never an option.

Posted by Blood1991

@IllyanaRasputin said:

@Blood1991 said:

@IllyanaRasputin said:

@Blood1991: The school has always been a target. The school was a target way before Cyclops went all Brotherhood. And the Jean Grey School has gotten attacked on countless occasions. If anything Cyclops and his brotherhood and his new recruits will be the safe ones.

They will be the safe ones, when they are the ones committing crimes. Yes the school has been attacked, but humans were tolerating it even going inside. Hell a teacher applied. Now they are going to be even more threatened by them. So yes Scott is safe to make the others a target. It is just selfish and blind. He was never meant to see the fruit of his labor. None of the original X-men were or the Uncanny team. It takes generations to build equality and tolerance. People die, blood is split it is the way our world works, but we know we can achieve peace and understanding to a degree through promoting peace. I understand he wants to save them, but there are better ways, peaceful ways. With the Avengers teaming up with the X-Men to aid in the mutant struggle it doesn't have much purpose in my opinion.

I personally feel as though Xavier's dream will never come true so why try? I mean I know Scott still has hope that's why he told his prison mate about Wolverine's school, but I mean realistically humans and mutants will never coexist. It's all about survival it's always been about survival. The school is a target within its self and will always be a target whether Cyclops keeps doing what he's doing or not. The Avengers and X-Men teaming up will only last for awhile. I mean realistically you saw what happened during Civil War, one screw up the blames all on Super Heroes and Mutants this time around. I see where your coming from but I'm team Cyclops and his Brotherhood - as Magneto once said, peace was never an option.

It took decades for Civil rights for African Americans and took Women centuries to be considered equals and this is still only in the eyes of some. Mutants were starting from nothing, it takes more time then what they have spent. I would personally rather die for what is right than live doing something I know is wrong. So I am on the Schools side as Xavier once said "Oppression is no excuse for vengeance -- for murder."

Posted by Blood1991

@IllyanaRasputin: Oh and I appreciate your input. I like that we were able to discuss the morality of both sides.

Posted by IllyanaRasputin

@Blood1991: Lol. No problemo :P

Posted by Madame_Mist

How did Emma escape? Scott didn't free her.

Edited by GonnaRain

Like I said in another topic, Scott's mean well, but his choice of actions wasn't really the best. I guess he probably was trying to get the media's attention, to get his message across to both humans and mutants, but I think he could've saved the new mutants without making such a show, that, like others said, would probably just make the situation worse, than it already is of course, for mutants.

That being said, Scotts's team part was badass and I'm 100% on his side. And I really want to read more about Eva.

Edited by brucecapell

The original 5 x-men were brought here so cyclops can oppose himself (read the ending of all new x-men #1). Young Cyclops will be Xavier's way in all new x-men while adult Cyclops will be more Magneto's in uncanny.

Posted by russia599

@brucecapell: I also think that it wasn't the only reason they brought them back, I think that Hank want's the old Hank to replace him when he doesn't survive through the next stage of his mutation.

Posted by Veitha

@IllyanaRasputin said:

I don't see what Cyclops is doing wrong that Storm and the rest of the X-Men have to bother with him? New Mutants are populating around the globe. They're smarter than Wolverine and his School and are finding them before them and they're recruiting them, what seems to be the problem? I mean if it weren't for Cyclops and his team Eva would be in prison or worse dead, and that guy was getting interrogated because he saved someones life? Cyclops and his crew are just saving mutants - Wolverine and his team are just jealous they're doing it in style ;)

I totally agree with this

Posted by AmazingFantasy15

@IllyanaRasputin said:

I don't see what Cyclops is doing wrong that Storm and the rest of the X-Men have to bother with him? New Mutants are populating around the globe. They're smarter than Wolverine and his School and are finding them before them and they're recruiting them, what seems to be the problem? I mean if it weren't for Cyclops and his team Eva would be in prison or worse dead, and that guy was getting interrogated because he saved someones life? Cyclops and his crew are just saving mutants - Wolverine and his team are just jealous they're doing it in style ;)

It's not what he's doing, it's how he does it in that he is injuring humans, causing a lot of property damage and making humans hate mutants even more which would lead to hate crimes and possibly government action against mutants.

Posted by russia599

@AmazingFantasy15: Totally agreed, doing the right thing in the wrong way.

Posted by White Mage

@Madame_Mist said:

How did Emma escape? Scott didn't free her.

9/10 it was Magik

Posted by White Mage

Also, Cyclops SHOULD be in jail right now, and he's leading a bunch of "villains" in the name of mutant supremacy. Any mutant he acquires for his team, WILL be viewed as a villain. While those you work with Wolverine and company will be viewed as "heroes". It IS setting them up for a colossal blow up

Posted by McKlayn

I just want to point out that if the "public" knew that Wolverine was leading a hit squad to kill people he would be viewed as a bad guy too. I also want to re point out that the original X men were villains to the public eye, also want to point out that Punisher is a criminal (some others i am sure he just pops up in my head first) I think it's silly how this is being debated so much,Cyclops team are Heroes a different type of heroes sure but it's not the first time it's been done nor shall it be the last. I mean HOW MUCH property damage do the avengers or X men cause in a typical comic? I can grab a few i am sure and it will be tons, the X treme X men series by Chris Clairmount pretty much blew up an entire island in one of the story arcs (a damn good one i might add)

Even movies like Hancock (Shout out to big willy!) kind of focuses on the negative parts of having a super hero around. It shows them all the time picking up cars and smashing buildings. It also shows several of them (spiderman a very good example of this one) running from the cops and even battling them a bit. This is no different, people needed saving they stormed in and did it in traditional super hero style. Will it end up being bad for mutants, uh yea? If they didn't do this the school would be bad for mutants, i mean hell Humans were ready to take them down in Morrison's run and they were don't shit, point being its racism and it doesn't need a proper motivation it never has. This is taking a real life problem and adapting it to a super hero environment.

People want to point out the fact that humans accept Captain America or Miss Marvel or who the hell ever as heroes so they would X men as well? It's not the same, they are a new race of people. Sure their are alot of heroes but they are all just random freak accidents. Spider man having babies are going to be regular kids, (unless they are mutants) these are people that have saved their lives and they trust, they TRUST captain america they don't trust all super powered people. Mutants pose the threat of taking over society, of being some random kid with a bad attitude. It really is a totally different thing and people (should this happen in real life) would much easier accept that this one super powered guy is a good stand up guy then a new race of super powered people can be trusted. I mean you can learn to trust one person but a million people with powers that is scary, some of the have to be evil and it would settle in the back of minds.

But yea, CYclops is doing Hero stuff just like everyone else and people are blowing it out of proportion for some odd reason, THEY WANT Him to be a villain so Cap & Wolverine will be right! But in the end Cyclops was right deal with it :-p oh and Marvel is eating this up, this is got to be the hottest topic in comics right now and thats exactly what they wanted. So people who claim shitty writing, or poor this or blah blah, sure maybe but all that matters is the bottom line and right now this has the most attention of any other comic story just read the forums lol