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#3 rogueshadow  Moderator

Incubus and above should get the job done.

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"common sense prevails"

You expect too much of the human race.

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#5  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

@uuth:

Is there a specific reason why he isn’t writing the script?

I think it was probably his choice. He announced a while ago he wouldn't be writing one. Seems like he's been part of the creative process, provided notes on lore, characters etc. but hasn't taken time out to actually write scripts. Probably because it requires more time to write a wholly new script than just rework his book material.

And tbh I don't think there'll be any way around fairly big time-skips for a good number of stories in HOTD. For something like The Sea Snake or a series about Nymeria it may not be needed. For a good chunk of the Targaryen storylines, the alternative to time-skips would be only seeing the 3 - 5 year time periods where shit hits the fan and missing most context.

GRRM said one of the ideas was actually to start with Viserys' death. Robert's Rebellion would be far less interesting if it's just 2 seasons of the actual Rebellion imo. This goes for most storylines.

(I definitely didn’t put greece in there because I want Dayne to be based off a Greek dude)

Hahaha. Well, being a fairly prominent House in the Dornish Marshes, the Daynes are probably among the more miscegenated houses in Westeros, realistically. Given that they’ve more than likely intermarried with the Southern, more Rhoynish Houses at some point or another in the last 1000 years.

You would probably have a few generations sporadically looking more in line with Sandy and Salty Dornishmen due to this, but the Daynes are generally considered Stony Dornishmen; fair skinned, light haired and claiming descent from the First Men rather than the Rhoynar who match with what you described. They are probably still more closely related to the First Men/Andals than the Rhoynar.

So far we only know the hair colour of two; Edric (pale blonde, not the silver-gold of Targs) and Ashara, but both had lilac/purple eyes like Valyrians. I don't think there's been any commentary on their skin tone. GRRM has stated that this is not necessarily indicative of Valyrian descent though. I believe he’s telling the truth as he doesn't seem to ever lie about things, but I do suspect that there is a connection I won’t go off on a tangent with.

I don't know who would be analagous to Greeks in ASOIAF. There are Greek elements in a bunch of the cultures but I feel they're usually overshadowed by a heavier parallel. I've tried to think of an equivalent before when we've discussed asoiaf. I can never settle on a proper comparison. Dorne is more comparable to Moorish Spain imo. Though, there's no full 1:1 for anywhere.

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#6  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

@uuth: Always visualised Dayne having darker hair, due to Ashara, but Edric has pale hair so it could go either way and a design something like this would be spice incarnate tbh:

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@uuth:

He seems to have more influence than he did for the back half of GoT, but he isn't writing any scripts like he did in S1 - 4. IIRC he wanted them to start a decade earlier, with the death of Aemon, Jahaerys’ firstborn son.

They could just start at Harrenhal or Duskendale, but so much context would be lost. I can see a prologue with the Tragedy at Summerhall, followed by the show beginning in earnest at the Stepstones. Tywin knighting Aerys, the death of the last Blackfyre pretender and the naming of Selmy to the Kingsguard.

Two seasons covering 260 – 280 and two seasons covering the immediate build up/Rebellion itself. Meanwhile, HOTD compressed nearly 30 years into a single season, lol. I think they did a good job. I appreciate why they probably felt they had to do it the way they did, especially coming off GoT S8.

With HOTD, I would be here for it personally but I don’t know if I see them adapting 10 or more episodes of post-dance material. Idk. Idw be too spoilery. But thinking about it, I can see them moving events around a bit as well tbh. The Dance itself is so hectic though, it's a mess in a good way. With characters rising and dying at breakneck speed. If it gets dragged out it could lose that energy.

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I’m fine with it tbh, if it’s bad who cares? The games are there.

It has the opportunity to do something good though expand the Norse saga and flesh out the relationships with Faye and the Aesir gods etc

Plus for the general audience it’ll be a wild ride having Kratos true past reviewed through flash backs and so on

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It probably depends on where they choose to end this epoch. The Dance could feasibly be done in three seasons, the next two will be denser and faster paced than the first. Depends where they choose to end it. A very abrupt and brutal ending with a spoken epilogue detailing some of the aftermath could actually work.

Also, HBO have said it won’t be back until 2024. The long night recommences.

Man, mid-30s is optimistic. More like 40s, lol. The Demon of the Trident is probably so far away I doubt I’ll even be alive by that point. The day before we're finally about to see the RR spice will be the day we put the news on to find that nukes are being dropped all over and the cordyceps has spread to humans for real.

I have a feeling it will bookmark the whole show. After everything, the final days of the Targaryen reign. If they do take the anthology approach. Maegor vs The Faith, Viserys I's reign, Aegon’s Conquest, Daeron in Dorne, Aegon V and Summerhall, Aegon IV and the Blackfyre Rebellions.

Would love it if I'm wrong and they just went into RR right away though. I'd hope it would cover the whole period from 260 - 283 AL. Opening with the Battle of the Stepstones, Selmy giving Maelys the work.

Everything will get a redesign. The kingsguard armor, his sword etc.

I think Ashley is quite good. Idk about Troy. It'll be cool if we get some version of this since this story never materialised in the games. They've said there will be things they just didn't have time for in the games that will be explored. We shall see.

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Round 1: In the films, Sauron, who is probably intended to be in a far lesser state at Dol Goldur (it's probably difficult to say if he would be in Legendarium/Tolkienian terms, his native power in the seen and unseen realms may be relatively unmarred at this point, despite lacking physical form) easily defeats Gandalf the Grey. TWK, whose stature is presumably heightened at this time due to his proximity to his master (who should also be greater by this time) destroys Gandalf the White and no longer seems dismayed by fire. The Balrog, who was essentially dead even with Gandalf the Grey, should lose to both.

But if we assume Sauron was directly embuing TWK with power there due to the proximity, then it becomes trickier. If TWK is just that powerful he'll certainly beat Durin's Bane, if it's reliant on Sauron's direct intervention, then we have no reason to believe he would.

The outlier is Smaug, he has far greater independent feats of raw power, strength etc. than anyone here. On a gut level, in-verse, I do expect any of these three (assuming TWK's power is "his own") would be depicted as besting him, but it's difficult to say with certainty without taking cues from the books.

So it really depends how you choose to think about the fight. In a variety of ways.

Round 2: In the books, Sauron is less a vehicle of great might in the strictly personal/physical sense. It's quite difficult to pin down how he would compare to Durin's Bane. TWK is utterly out of his depth though. I can't recall any reason he would have a chance against either of Team 2 so they should win this regardless of how you choose to break down Sauron's power in a straight up battle. I can't see him defeating both.