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Make him this strong, for the laughs.

love it. :D

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absolutely love the idea of nightwing showing up superman.

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another situation, draw batman into a fight where dick can take an advantage, make him fight 2o stories up in a construction site where nightwing can gain an edge do to circus training. play off batmans confidence he knows and everyone else knows he will win in hand to hand, so he pushes to far out, pushing his advantage till they are out in open air and dick can turn the tables. and typically batman will use his mind not his physical prowess to take down enemies who could destroy him, typically. dick can easily take advantage of batmans idea dick is still a child, and isn't a match. dick can play the part he knows batman better than anyone, he can turn bruces knowledge and intelligence against him. acting like he really is just a kid and a screw up till he has been drawn in.

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pretty good idea's. #1 batman's getting old he has been beaten and battered for years, bane broke his back. it has to take a toll eventually, so beating him in hand to hand is totally doable. in fact nightwing in his prime versus batman at 40/50, nightwing should win on any count.

if they did do a batman versus nightwing I think it should be mind controlled batman, ivy has done it, any number of character's would be capable of it, maybe mitzpclk wants to play a prank whatever. make a real fight out of it like they seem to be at stalemate. then the winning shot could be done multiple ways. dick can finally pull some trick batman wasn't expecting(dick is younger and an acrobat, beating bats on stamina makes sense), or another hero teamed up with nightwing, but distracted during the actual fight shows up to shut down the mind control in whatever fashion. as the mind control wears off batman blinks, during that one second nightwing lands a final punch and knocks bats flat.

later in the batcave or rooftop dick can ask "were u conscience at all?" batman replies "i was completely aware of everything going on around but couldn't stop myself"

"were u holding back then?"

"i tried, but i really cant say how successful i was if at all"

this leaves it in a state where nightwing has proven himself, but still leaves question to whether he has equaled or surpassed batman.and batman isn't that wordy usually so u could cut his response down to just "i really couldn't say" leaving more mystery to it.

JLA thing should definitely happen. batman doesn't even like them for the most part dick is much more of a team player and people person, it doesn't even need to play like nightwing took his spot, batman could leave once again, and nightwing steps up.

i agree on the point he should become his own character not beating batman in batmans specialties but more pushing towards his own specialties. batman bases himself out of stealth, but the mythos of using the bat to scare people means people need to see him, and see the shadow fall around them to spread the fear. dick could push towards remaining invisible like a real ninja, and could turn his focus towards stealth rather than martial arts or detective work ect. and being an acrobat would work on this level. just one concept, there are many areas nightwing could surpass batman, that batman is not as highly trained in. there are only so many hours in the day, he cant be the best at everything.

teen titans show i think would be a little more difficult, titans/justice/batman all have a large character base so u can change it up tell different stories and perspectives, until nightwing gets more definitive team members he is a bit of a one trick act and we already saw that with batman TAS. teen titans was a good show, but try to do it with just robin not the rest of the titans, doesn't work so well i think. and batman without the extra characters like nightwing boosting the ranks he is still a badass, but its just not as entertaining.

sorry for this long winded exposition ;) with tons of typos im sure. FYI ive always kinda preferred tim drake. maybe just cause i related better with him when i was a kid. but huge fan of all batman affiliates.