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@squalleon:

He might get roughed up a bit but no more so then usual. you got to consider that Forever Evil is in September and they gave him an annual for October so he should be just fine therefore him getting hurt in the first two of 7 is unlikely. Now Forever Evil is 7 parts so it will take up 7 months but I highly doubt DC is going to mess with one of their best selling comics, plus they announced a new direction, plus they showed they value him by giving him an annual (which he did not get last year), so those three show that DC wont mess with him.

I predicted that this will be the makings of a new team book for Nightwing ( you can check it out in " Are All The Pieces Coming Together?" post that I made a few days ago.

so I believe that this is what will happen ( the team) and not him ending up crippled for the multiple reasons I said in this and my other post.

@vernierhawk001:

oh no hard feelings. i was just saying that it would be impossible to figure out right now, and honestly any team would be better then no team because like i said DC does a good job of shuffling teams around

@vernierhawk001:

I think its more a crutch for Barbra then Dick. and honestly its kind of a mute point anyway. this whole post was only a prediction. so it may not even come true. and even if it does there is no guarantee that that the team they originally planed for will be the team it actually gets launched with.

as far as i understand Forever Evil and Nightwing will both be ongoing but Nighwing (the character) will be the central hero in Forever Evil

@vernierhawk001:

agreed it will never be the old teen titans. and they probably wont have that kind of magic in a while. but i think dick and babs would be interesting and see what happened between them, if anything, in the new 52. I like Booster Gold, I think he is cool. I liked Nightwing and Red Tornado in Young Justice. Black Canary would be good. the only ones I really dont like is hawkman and shazam. but hey I cant get everything I want so its a good start and DC is doing a good job shuffling the teams around so it may not be a perfect but its not a horrible start.

as far as Villain Month, it is my understanding that in September all the New 52 will be replaced with villain books. for example it will the title will say " Batman " and then have the Joker written over it. so the book will be about the Joker and not involve Batman at all. DC is basically putting a hold on all the books for a month and doing villains instead. kind of like they did last September with all the Zero issues. remember they stopped all the stories where they were then did zero issues, to tell all the hero origins. its exactly like that.

as far as Forever Evil, as far as I can tell it will be an ongoing series which will be basically like the legion of doom or the light in young justice. it will start and September and continue on from their and its basically (at least in September) most of the heroes will disappear and the villains will rule the world. it seems to also involve another dimension sense they hinted to owlman and superwoman. thats all i can piece together right now

@vernierhawk001:

while I agree that the JLI team doesn't represent my top choices for a new team, however i can see where it could be construed as one. maybe not from a lot of different places around the world but they could represent trusted people from the different teams.

Nightwing- from the JL (was offered membership)

Hawkman- from the JLA

Shazam- Im guessing he will be part of JLD because JLD is more magic based

Booster Gold- From the original JLI

Red Tornado- Im guessing an escaped android from the secret society

Batgirl- just has nothing better to do?

Black Canary- looks good? works well in teams?

anyway

when it comes to the theory, it is based on solicits but not exactly what they say more reading between the lines.

the main reason i believe that Dick will get a team is that it has already been confirmed that he will be the main hero in Forever Evil. if you look at Forever Evil its clearly a villain team and as much as I love NW, there is no way he can take on an entire villain team by himself so he will NEED a team. this hasn't been stated by DC but there is simply no other way. if this team lasts beyond Forever Evil, I don't know but I am certain he will team up with other heroes in villains month.

as far as Bludhaven, its a complete guess. however everything Higgins has said is that Chicago is a "temporary" place for NW and from the very beginning. Now can his success in Chicago change that certainly. As far as a great permanent place for NW, Idk the Prankster is good but I don't really care for the other people like the mayor or Tony Zucco. I can also see Zucco escaping in the confusion the Prankstar causes and going to Bludhaven. I mean the Prankster has already revealed the corruption in Chicago and exposed Zucco so I dont see Zucco staying in Chicago. I dont see Dick staying either, he only rented an apartment for a few weeks and Dick Grayson staying in Chicago and NW staying in Chicago is going to get suspicious. plus the Prankster arc is almost over and what does NW have to stay for? the mayor is exposed, Zucco will almost certainly flee, and the Prankster will be defeated. So what is there in Chicago to stay for? and honestly I dont see the Prankster as a "villain" more of an extreme anti-hero because its not like he is doing any of this will ill intent he just has a really messed up sense of justice. So a long term rivalry between Prankster and NW wont work because they need a third corrupt entity and for them to go about taking down that entity in another way.

So guys, its been a little while but remember about four months ago, this was posted

http://www.comicvine.com/dick-grayson/4005-1691/forums/nightwing-in-jli-relaunch-745860/#33

four months ago the original poster @squalleon, posted a tease from R.B. Silva with the hash tags

"Done. #redtornado #dccomics #rbsilva #dcuniverse #justiceofleague #justiceleagueinternational #nightwing #draw #art #comics"

It was also hinted in the post that "The team consists of Nightwing,Booster Gold,Hawkman,Shazam,Black Canary,Batgirl and of course Red Tornado"

Now we KNOW a few things

1. Nightwing will be affected in some major way during villain's month but will not be killed (September)

2. During Villiain's Month a lot of the hero's mysteriously disappear and the few hero's that remain must decide how to handle things (possibly teaming up to stop the villiains)

3. October will bring a new creative direction to Nightwing

4. Nightwing Annual also in October features NW and Babs teaming up

5. Nightwing is obviously around, Booster Gold has returned and needs help to correct something involving space and time, Babs is teaming up with Nightwing in Oct, Black Canary is in the birds of prey with Babs so they have already been working together, Shazam is not part of the JL, and Red Tornado has been hinted but as far as I know hasn't been actually seen, and after/ during Trinity War some hero's will be changing teams or leaving teams all together so Hawkman could switch teams.

So based on all those things here is what I am guessing

The Trinity War will be resolved but it will be to late for the 3 different JL to figure out that the Seceret Society is actually pulling the strings. The Secret Society takes advantage of the weakened state of the JL and sends a majority of the hero's away.

( if you look at the solicit for JL Dark 24 it says everyone but Constantine has disappeared, JL 24 says the "the Justice League is Dead", JLA says the JLA is dead but one member under covers secrets.)

so we know that all of the justice leagues are "dead" and will be MIA in September and its pretty obvious that the hero's that remain will fight the villains. i am guessing by teaming up to stop the secret society. so this creates a perfect chance for Nightwing ( the character that will under go major changes) to found a new team to stop the Secret Society. in a sense Nightwing will become the leader of the world wide resistance to the secret society and finally get his very own team. trying to avoid the destruction that 3 competing JL caused in the trinity war, Dick founds and International league were all hero's work together hence Justice League International a united front instead of hero's divided like the world has seen before.

after a team up in September, Babs and Dick will remain fighting together (Nightwing annual in Oct) joined by the other members that helped in the resistance and by the end of Nightwing Annual, Babs will convince Dick that the team the made is needed sense Babs "quit the bat" and needs a new home.

they decide not to go back to Gotham and start somewhere new like NW did previously, but not far away like Chicago since Babs wants to be close to her dad cause she is all he has left, so the move to BLUDHAVEN, which is just south of Gotham. Now before you whine " Ritchie B! Bludhaven was destroyed!" Well hold ur horses friends in the last JLA. BLOCKBUSTER was revealed to be alive! so maybe in the New 52 Bludhaven was never destroyed! Dun Dun Done!!!

Nobody is looking at the possibility that this could turn out to be a positive thing instead of a negative thing like a killing or a death. as stated before the sheer probability of killing Nightwing is very low, Nightwing is up there in sales next to Superman and is always in or near the top ten, so killing him does not benefit DC at all. that being said:

It is my theory that DC is going to do the exact opposite of what it is making it look like, in Death of The Family everyone thought Alfred was going to die or get crippled but he turned out to be fine. Kyle Higgins himself said he wants Nightwing to become a more prominent hero and not " that circus kid that used to be robin." if i were a betting man I would say that DC is creating all this hype and speculation to bring the focus on Nightwing and then instead of killing or hurting him they are going to make him go through hell and rise out on top, perhaps being the one instead of Batman or Superman to finally save the day and earn all the spot light and recognition he deserved.

I know this sounds like I am reaching for hope but how many times has DC given us what they were leading us to believe, we thought Night of the Owls would be about the Gray-son it wasnt, instead it turned out to be Bruces brother, in DOTF we thought sense the Joker had Alfred, Alfred would come to harm but he didn't and DOFT really did not drastically tear the family apart as we thought it would. so DC has a history of leading us one way and then doing the opposite.

For those of you who play The Elder Scrolls, think about what Bethesda did in Skyrim. They told their fans that there "are no werewolves in Skyrim, and no future plans to add them" which got a lot of the fans disappointed and the whole werewolf thing became a huge buzz and everyone was talking about werewolves and skyrim, then a few days before the release it came out that Bethesda was just F-ing with everyone and werewolves were built into one of the major guilds and everyone was happy.

Same thing is happening here. DC threatens to kill Grayson, big buzz, lots of negativity, and makes everyone buy the comic because of the shit storm the Nightwing fans create because everyone wants to know if they are actually going to kill him, and good ol Dicky Boy is fine in the end, DC makes huge sales and Nightwing fans are happy that Dick got some major recognition.

think about it this way if the portrayed it in a positive light and said "hey guys Nightwing is going to play a major role and everything is going to be fine" we would all just say "hip hip hooray" and it would be over, no buzz or nothing but when they rile us up a lot of word of mouth is spread and it becomes a big hype.

think about it this way if the headline was

(insert major character here, that you don't currently read) saves the day! and defeats bad guys in villain month

would u read it NO because they always save the day

but if it was

DC hints (insert major character here, that you don't currently read) is going to die!

would you read it, YES!

I dont read Wonder Woman but if I thought she was going to die I might pick up a few issues to see what happens, simple as that my friends its all hype and its going to be the exact opposite of what everyone is thinking.

@alak:

yea, i agree but i dont see that happening anytime soon. unless the Trinity Wars change the DCU significantly

@batmannflash:

yea thats the trouble all of his old friends are occupied.

plus

i dont think Aqualad/girl or Miss Martian even exist in the New 52 right now. and I havent seen Blue Beetle in anything since they canceled his comic

so as we all know DC has either erased or drastically changed all of Dick Graysons old friends. so based on who is in the New 52 and the way they are now, who do you think would make a good friend/ crime fighting partner?