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@impervious: Batman takes down Shredder before the TMNT do too much damage to Ra's. Bats and Ra's clean up.

@lukehero: He didn't have help when he prepped for Flash did he?

@newecho: To be honest I think even if it was lightly populated, because the characters are aware they are in danger as they enter this encounter they would have been suspicious of everyone anyway.

The easiest way to break this battle down (for me atleast) is Harley isn't skilled enough to take Lester and Joker is just good enough with prep to get a couple of wins in this settings, but without real prep time I don't think he can claim a majority.

@newecho: The fun fair is unpopulated pal

If I was in this situation and my opponent was standing there holding blades, with a bullseye on his head, I would assume he was probably a pretty good shot, and I'm not 1% as intelligent as Joker.

The rest of this post is going on the assumption that Joker and Harley aren't mindless brutes who are just going to charge at someone the OP specifically states they are aware is a danger to them.

It seems to me the most likely thing is both Joker and Harley falling back to find a place to set up. Regardless of whether it's chemical based or simple ropes, deathtraps etc. I am certain that in this setting Joker can come up with at least a few basic plans. Almost certainly involving Harley luring Bullseye into them. I reckon this will be the way the fight goes about half the time. Harley will not win this encounter and I think Bullseye could probably get through the traps and kill Joker 3 times out of 5. The 2 out of 5 that Joker wins is based on the fact that despite previous claims that you need to know the layout of the whole funfair to know what a cleaning closet looks like, I do think Joker will get his hands on enough chemicals to do something deadly at least a couple of times out of ten.

The next most likely scenario to me is that Joker retreats leaving Harley to engage and buy him time. Bare in mind, just because Harley is left behind, does not mean she runs straight at Bullseye. She can taunt from behind cover and attempt to approach 'semi-stealthily' due to her increased stats. Basically letting Lester know she's there without giving her exact location away and keeping on the move. Again, Harley is never winning this and again, it comes down to Bullseye getting through Jokers traps once he tracks him down for a majority, but not every time. If this scenario were to happen 3 times out of 10, I think Bullseye would take 2.

Other than this, you have the scenario where Bullseye immediately goes for a kill. If he kills Joker first, Harley dies very shortly after in a misguided attempt to engage Bullseye physically. If he kills Harley first, either Joker engages straight away or falls back, but ultimately Lester is more likely to hunt him down and successfully kill him, so of these 2 scenarios, Bullseye wins both.

So, without lowballing the hell out of Joker and Harley, I'd say Bullseye wins 7 / 10.

@keenko: I agree with this, and I think considering the characteristics of Harley and Joker probability says Harley will go on the attack while Joker sits back. So IF Bullseye goes for a kill immediately and IF at the same time one of the team is going on the attack rather than sitting back, I don't think it's even debatable that someone is going to be Harley.

@newecho: My point is more that he would already be hiding as soon as the fight starts so he can spend a minute to understand his surroundings, he wouldn't need to dodge immediately because he wouldn't attack immediately. And I don't buy that as soon as the fight starts Bullseye will be going for the kill, when it has been discussed already that he likes to play with his opponents a bit before finishing anything.

I disagree with your point about finding chemicals. If he is sneaking around trying to form a plan I think it's VERY likely that someone with Jokers background in chemical based weaponry will go straight for closets and containers likely to have ingredients he needs.

Even without the chemicals, I think the key point I was trying to make is that 99 times out of 100 in this scenario Jokers immediate thought would be to temporarily retreat, set up a plan or at the very least get to know his surroundings and use this knowledge against his opponent.

I'd also like to make it clear that I haven't voted yet and I'm not saying Joker & Harley WILL win, I just don't understand why this debate has so far been about how Joker doesn't stand a chance because he isn't as good a fighter as Bullseye, when a fist fight would be his absolute last move.

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I'd just like to point out that although he doesn't start with it, Joker is able to make Joker Venom using nothing but common cleaning chemicals, something he has done to escape Arkham.

Having a gas based trap like Joker Venom could really change the way this battle goes. And even if he doesn't go for that specific chemical, this shows just how hard it can be to try to pin down Joker, even unprepared.

It's also worth mentioning that Joker would never put all his money on winning a H2H battle if he has other options, even with Harley at his back. What's more likely is he would tell Harley to engage while he comes up with something to make sure he survives.

To be honest I think this thread needs more Joker experts, I'm seeing a lot of people correctly stating that Bullseye would demolish in straight combat, but there has been hardly any discussion of what Joker could do if he avoided that obviously losing tactic.

EDIT: As well as this, Joker has demonstrated awareness of the multiverse and brokn the fourth wall, including having awareness of Batman and Spiderman's first crossover in the Marvel vs DC event (I'm aware this isn't canon, but the power itself is and this shows it could include knowledge of Marvel opponents)

Arrows shooting that gun straight out of Colds hands then loling his way to a stomp