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#1 Edited by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason manages to fight alongside Kory in his own book for years now while participating in Bat-crossovers, I truly don't think it would be some very impossible to write if Jason were the one shtupping her instead of Roy. And I imagine the same would go for Dick. If they are in title together, make it part space. Dick as Robin used to go on crazy adventures with Batman and Superman all the time and the Teen Titans are part of who he is. There's no reason Nightwing needs to be a strict streetlevel title. Batwoman sure isn't.

I see your point that Dick Grayson can exist in a superpowerd book. He was in the Titans(as Robin and Nightwing) and The Justice League as Batman. I just want to point out that Red Hood and The Outlaws is a bad example because that book has been nothing but bad to mediocre from it's start and part of it's problem has been taking what works for Jason Todd and going against it. Jason very much needs to be written like he is being used in Batman Eternal and Batman and Robin. He really shines in those books.

#2 Edited by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like to see him with Black Widow. I think it would be a good pairing of personality's. And............she is a beautiful red headed lady which is kind of his thing.

#3 Posted by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

@redwingx said:

@richardjohngrayson said:

@redwingx said:

@rustyroy said:

@chrisj_1 said:

Why are people arguing about the ethical concerns of having kid sidekicks? No matter what age 8-10 or 16-17 it's never gonna make any damn sense to bring a kid into crime fighting just roll with it it's comic books geez. On that note on a basis of building up Bruce and Dick's close bond I'm in the camp saying he had ought to have started at around 8. Screw realism this is fiction all that matters is character relationships

There's huge difference between an 8 year old and 18 year old, I don't care about realism but this makes Bruce look bad, that's why I'm usually against it.

Your against that but perfectly fine with Batman bringing a 10 years killer who is his SON into crime fighting?

@i3io_hazard said:

Dick is the most skilled and most well behaved of the bunch. He is also the first son as well as the best character out of all of them imo

Most skilled is debatable as Jason has much better feats than Dick in new52. I'll give you the rest tho except for best char thing which is subjective.

Dick has beaten Jason time and time again. He is with out question the most skilled of the Robins. I think Jason's feats in the new 52 aren't that much better than Grayson's. Dick was Batman and even has a win in a fight over Batman in the new 52. That alone is pretty darn impressive.

They are. New52 Jason definitely stomps Dick feat wise.

I've seen battle for the cowl and under the red hood referenced in the new 52. Dick Grayson has handed Jason Todd his butt more than once. I agree to disagree as far as feats go. That's your opinion and that's cool.

#4 Posted by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

@redwingx said:

@rustyroy said:

@chrisj_1 said:

Why are people arguing about the ethical concerns of having kid sidekicks? No matter what age 8-10 or 16-17 it's never gonna make any damn sense to bring a kid into crime fighting just roll with it it's comic books geez. On that note on a basis of building up Bruce and Dick's close bond I'm in the camp saying he had ought to have started at around 8. Screw realism this is fiction all that matters is character relationships

There's huge difference between an 8 year old and 18 year old, I don't care about realism but this makes Bruce look bad, that's why I'm usually against it.

Your against that but perfectly fine with Batman bringing a 10 years killer who is his SON into crime fighting?

@i3io_hazard said:

Dick is the most skilled and most well behaved of the bunch. He is also the first son as well as the best character out of all of them imo

Most skilled is debatable as Jason has much better feats than Dick in new52. I'll give you the rest tho except for best char thing which is subjective.

Dick has beaten Jason time and time again. He is with out question the most skilled of the Robins. I think Jason's feats in the new 52 aren't that much better than Grayson's. Dick was Batman and even has a win in a fight over Batman in the new 52. That alone is pretty darn impressive.

#5 Edited by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

To put it simply he loves and trust Grayson the most. He sees himself in Grayson and feels Dick Grayson saved him from completely giving himself up to darkness.

#6 Posted by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

These are scans from Batman Beyond 2.0, and they deal with the reason why Dick eventually stopped staying in Gotham, and never got back together with Barbara after he did return. And it basically tells the final falling out between Dick and Bruce, and why you never see Dick in the Beyond Universe. They reveal that after he'd moved to Bludhaven, he came back to Gotham, and did in fact get with Barbara for a time. However, a lot changed in Gotham during the years he was away after leaving the Robin mantle behind, and the fallout from those things is still taking place:

To sum it up, after Dick was back in Gotham for a few weeks, Barbara discovered she was 7 weeks pregnant. This of course was longer than Dick had been back in Gotham, so it couldn't be his, which only leaves one person who could possibly be the father. Bruce. Bruce tells Barbara to do whatever she thinks is best, but he ends up confronting Dick himself, and that goes about as well as you'd expect.

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Any thoughts? I can personally say this exact situation is part of why the Bruce/Barbara relationship from back then sickened me when I was younger, and still creeps me out now. Though this of course was never revealed in the show itself, part of me always suspected that the relationship had a part to play in why Dick left Gotham for good and never came back, because there was no way he was ever going to accept that. I still find it unbelievable that the writers back then actually even allowed the relationship to happen at all. I think it doesn't help that this happened in a tv show that many of us saw as kids, and what's more BTAS, TNBA, and BB arguably have one of the best, and most applauded adaptations of Batman ever. So to then have this take place in it tarnishes it in a way.

It for sure makes me dislike the BTAS Bruce/Batman. Batman is my second favorite character in comics(Dick Grayson being my favorite) but the BTAS Bruce is a scumbag for doing that to Dick. I like the story and don't mind the BTAS take on the Batverse. It is a different universe with different events and rules. Kyle Higgins is doing an amazing job on the book.

#7 Edited by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

At the start of the new 52 they said he was 21 as for height/weight, It say's on the selfie cover he is 5'10 175. So there ya go ;)

#8 Edited by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think he will. Tim Seeley and Tom King are too smart to "pull that trigger". Grayson's fan base would be pissed and they want us to accept and like this new direction. He will shoot someone at some point but not to kill.

#9 Posted by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no reason for their to be a new thread man.

Agreed. He is the same person. The code name change doesn't matter. All his feats shown as Robin/Nightwing still count.

#10 Edited by richardjohngrayson (422 posts) - - Show Bio