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Young Justice - My thoughts on Invasion (Spoilers)

With the first episode out I thought that I'd go over the things that I think about Season 2. I know that there are a couple of threads on this, but really, they should have no effect on this blog and vice-versa. Firstly, I can understand why a lot of people are angry at this change, there was still a lot of character development to be had with the characters that were there. Not just with the characters themselves, but more specifically with the relationships that were had within the team, because just at the end of the season we got to see a couple of key romances happen that we were all waiting for and therefore I can understand how random and abrupt it seems.

Dick Grayson as Nightwing

Now, anyone who has a facsimile of knowledge on me knows that I absolutely love Dick Grayson and more specifcally my love comes from his as Nightwing. So it should come as no suprise ot anyone that Dick Grayson being present as Nightwing, not to mention as still a main character regardless of the involvement of Tim Drake as Robin is a huge upside. I mean, huge. I love the two of them together and a chance for the two of them to interact is something that doesn't come that often, specially not in animated series. Easily the biggest positive of Season 2 would have to be this.

Missing Team Members

I'm curious as to see where they're going with this, but I really hope that Artemis gets a chance to appear in this season again as a main character. I think its entirely possible that either Wally has become the Flash (but I think he'd have appeared already) or that he has retired much like he did in Comics but this time instead of being with Magenta, Francis Kane, its very possible that he's decided to retire with Artemis Crook instead. I think it'd be interesting if they took this direction and we'd have the ability to see Barry die and Wally reluctantly take up his place instead.

Lastly, lets not forget that Aqualad is nowhere to be seen and I'm indeed quite curious to see what he's been up to. Easily one of the better characters of the show, he lead to his own character being created in the comics and I think that he's going to have some big role to play in what comes up. Unlike many, I highly doubt that he will have turned into a villain and to be honest I find the plot convoluted. Perhaps its possible that Kal'dur is the king of Atlantis, replacing Arthur since the latter is known to not "want" the Throne from time to Time?

New Members

Interesting additions, I did feel that there were too many characters added. Lagoon Boy and Blue Beetle were good additions, but they didn't get the character development that they needed, while Tim definitely made a good appearance in the show. Batgirl felt extra, to be honest I wonder if Dick has a relationship with her or not, or whether he still has a relationship with Zee. Regardless, I wasn't happy with the appearance of Wonder Girl and while I definitely feel that she should have been a part of the team, I'm not sure her appearance was handled all that well. Both of the last two characters' voice actors felt out of place as well.

Its also possible that Jason Todd existed, as hinted by the "Just Don't Die".

Relationships

I like the tension that they're building with Superboy and Miss Martian, but I don't like the fact that there's a possiblity that they're rearing this up to be a Wonder Girl/Superboy pairing. I'd much rather that Superboy and Miss Martian stick with each other by the end of the show and that Wonder Girl ends up going with Tim Drake, if there's an absolute necessity for the everyone in the team to be paired up together. (I'm also officially shipping them in Comics, as of the New 52, by the way).

I'd also like a Nightwing/Zee love thing instead, I don't care if they make it a love triangle with Babs because of the comics, I'd just rather they didn't go with the latter as the full blown romance option. Regardless, if there's one thing that will force me to skin everyone in DC alive, it'd have to be if the pull the Batman TAS card and have Zatanna hook up with Bruce. Which seems to be more likely, if it happens.

The Roy Harper incident

It seems to be quite apparent that the real Roy Harper is going to become Arsenal, as he was quite obviously missing an arm and thus the codename will fit. Not to mention that he's probably been in some cryogenic stasis so he's still the same age as he was. That said I thought that the plotline with him was ridiculous. So ridiculous, that when it was mentioned I ignored it for a lie that the Justice League was telling the Young Justice team. I'll be damned, that they were telling half truths instead, but it still doesn't make sense that they naturally believed what the League had told them. Regardless of the plothole, I won't mind if Red Arrow goes rogue just to see his relationship with Chesire, but I definitely hope that Arsenal doesn't, not to mention the age gap if he's been perserved in the stasis.

In conclusion, I just hope that looking back, they don't make this all about the new members of the team and completely forget the old memebers, having them as recurring characters, because to me, that just wouldn't do.

Can't seem to upload the pic, so you guys'll have to stick with boring text.

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@ReVamp said:

With the first episode out I thought that I'd go over the things that I think about Season 2. I know that there are a couple of threads on this, but really, they should have no effect on this blog and vice-versa. Firstly, I can understand why a lot of people are angry at this change, there was still a lot of character development to be had with the characters that were there. Not just with the characters themselves, but more specifically with the relationships that were had within the team, because just at the end of the season we got to see a couple of key romances happen that we were all waiting for and therefore I can understand how random and abrupt it seems.

Dick Grayson as Nightwing

Now, anyone who has a facsimile of knowledge on me knows that I absolutely love Dick Grayson and more specifcally my love comes from his as Nightwing. So it should come as no suprise ot anyone that Dick Grayson being present as Nightwing, not to mention as still a main character regardless of the involvement of Tim Drake as Robin is a huge upside. I mean, huge. I love the two of them together and a chance for the two of them to interact is something that doesn't come that often, specially not in animated series. Easily the biggest positive of Season 2 would have to be this.

Missing Team Members

I'm curious as to see where they're going with this, but I really hope that Artemis gets a chance to appear in this season again as a main character. I think its entirely possible that either Wally has become the Flash (but I think he'd have appeared already) or that he has retired much like he did in Comics but this time instead of being with Magenta, Francis Kane, its very possible that he's decided to retire with Artemis Crook instead. I think it'd be interesting if they took this direction and we'd have the ability to see Barry die and Wally reluctantly take up his place instead.

Lastly, lets not forget that Aqualad is nowhere to be seen and I'm indeed quite curious to see what he's been up to. Easily one of the better characters of the show, he lead to his own character being created in the comics and I think that he's going to have some big role to play in what comes up. Unlike many, I highly doubt that he will have turned into a villain and to be honest I find the plot convoluted. Perhaps its possible that Kal'dur is the king of Atlantis, replacing Arthur since the latter is known to not "want" the Throne from time to Time?

New Members

Interesting additions, I did feel that there were too many characters added. Lagoon Boy and Blue Beetle were good additions, but they didn't get the character development that they needed, while Tim definitely made a good appearance in the show. Batgirl felt extra, to be honest I wonder if Dick has a relationship with her or not, or whether he still has a relationship with Zee. Regardless, I wasn't happy with the appearance of Wonder Girl and while I definitely feel that she should have been a part of the team, I'm not sure her appearance was handled all that well. Both of the last two characters' voice actors felt out of place as well.

Its also possible that Jason Todd existed, as hinted by the "Just Don't Die".

Relationships

I like the tension that they're building with Superboy and Miss Martian, but I don't like the fact that there's a possiblity that they're rearing this up to be a Wonder Girl/Superboy pairing. I'd much rather that Superboy and Miss Martian stick with each other by the end of the show and that Wonder Girl ends up going with Tim Drake, if there's an absolute necessity for the everyone in the team to be paired up together. (I'm also officially shipping them in Comics, as of the New 52, by the way).

I'd also like a Nightwing/Zee love thing instead, I don't care if they make it a love triangle with Babs because of the comics, I'd just rather they didn't go with the latter as the full blown romance option. Regardless, if there's one thing that will force me to skin everyone in DC alive, it'd have to be if the pull the Batman TAS card and have Zatanna hook up with Bruce. Which seems to be more likely, if it happens.

The Roy Harper incident

It seems to be quite apparent that the real Roy Harper is going to become Arsenal, as he was quite obviously missing an arm and thus the codename will fit. Not to mention that he's probably been in some cryogenic stasis so he's still the same age as he was. That said I thought that the plotline with him was ridiculous. So ridiculous, that when it was mentioned I ignored it for a lie that the Justice League was telling the Young Justice team. I'll be damned, that they were telling half truths instead, but it still doesn't make sense that they naturally believed what the League had told them. Regardless of the plothole, I won't mind if Red Arrow goes rogue just to see his relationship with Chesire, but I definitely hope that Arsenal doesn't, not to mention the age gap if he's been perserved in the stasis.

In conclusion, I just hope that looking back, they don't make this all about the new members of the team and completely forget the old memebers, having them as recurring characters, because to me, that just wouldn't do.

Can't seem to upload the pic, so you guys'll have to stick with boring text.

/ramblings.

Agree with everything you said 100% 8 New Members is simply too much.

I didn't think Roy would become Arsenal but you gave good explanation why

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This timeskip was TOO soon. I mean we barely established the characters and relationships and BAM ...5 years later ? That really threw me out of the show's flow.

Too many developements we missed, out of nowhere introductions...SOO many characters to be introduced without a proper entrance to the series.

This feels like Justice League/Justice League Unlimited but instead of being a sequel show, it happens in the same show, as a new season.

There are some positive developements but I was hoping to experience them inside the show and not after a time skip between seasons.

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I remember seeing ''Invasion." And thought I lost my mind. I was like..''ummmm what?" Until Batman mentioned the 5 year gap thing. I'm loving this show more and more with each episode. I love that Lobo used a translator...never made sense that every alien that came to our earth (some who never heard of it) could speak english. I love the whole Roy was the mole the entire time thing. And I get to see Icon and Rocket in action!! I just hope like most of you that the original cast don't take a back burner a revolving door kinda thing can be confusing.

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I'm pretty upset with the direction they took. I still love the show and I'm still gonna watch it every week, I just really wish they'd have taken more time to develop their characters, interactions, and universe rather than throw it all on top us '5 years later'.

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@Wowlock said:

This timeskip was TOO soon. I mean we barely established the characters and relationships and BAM ...5 years later ? That really threw me out of the show's flow.

Too many developements we missed, out of nowhere introductions...SOO many characters to be introduced without a proper entrance to the series.

This feels like Justice League/Justice League Unlimited but instead of being a sequel show, it happens in the same show, as a new season.

There are some positive developements but I was hoping to experience them inside the show and not after a time skip between seasons.

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wow that prediction of Aqualad was a shot in the dark and made it dead center lol but i have a feeling that he is under cover for batman or gonna switch back to the good side. I hate Lagoon Boy, and he needs to go away fast but this deal with Aqualad will take time. its crazy to see him as a villain with his dad now. also im really hoping wally does become the new flash and deals with barry either dying or retiring. Artemis, i have no clue. I doubt that shes dead too but we never know. Roy i saw a preview and he looks like a junkie. I doubt he found the real Roy but there are rumors that he is gonna be back and the identity or Arsenal will be taken up

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@wessaari: Well, it wasn't that much of a shot in the dark, considering that its based on the comics. Still haven't seen the episode though.

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I'm a little annoyed about the Aqualad thing. And I'm still wondering about other missing characters. I feel like we're bouncing around a lot and not really nailing down a core team. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I didn't expect Dick/Megan/Connor as their core group.

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@fodigg said:

I'm a little annoyed about the Aqualad thing. And I'm still wondering about other missing characters. I feel like we're bouncing around a lot and not really nailing down a core team. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I didn't expect Dick/Megan/Connor as their core group.

I haven't watched it yet, but I think it'll be okay. On the otherhand, I don't understand the second point? You don't like that Dick, Connor and Megan are still mainstays?

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The feeling I'm getting is that they have so many members, that all of them won't get enough exposure. 11 members seems like too much. However I thought Alienated was a really good episode.

I like the fact that Kaldur has betrayed the team. It's giving him more personality which is good, as some people thought he was boring and didn't have a backbone.
However his betrayal doesn't seem to completely add up, and I have the feeling that he is a double agent for the Team. My theory is when Tula died and Black Manta was revealed as Kaldur's father, Batman realised that Aqualad would be the perfect double agent. Kaldur was said not to be seen for quite a while by most, not even his mentor, and the only one who knew where he is was Nightwing, who happens to not only be Batman's sidekick but also basically the deputy leade of the Team and now the leader. Conveniently Black Manta has just become a member of the Light. This comes after Ocean Master, an Atlantean villain, was taken down by Atlanteans. Bruce probably would have guesses that the villain who would replace Ocean Master, would be one associated with Atlantis, thus Black Manta. Because Kaldur had good reasons to defect, Bruce would have sent him over as a double agent.
Also I think this may be a teaser for Jason Todd!
The interaction between sideckicks and ment

ors was goog
It seems to be the crowbar. This coupled with the "Just don't die" seems to majorly hint at Jason's existence and hopefully he will appear.
However it does seem odd, that the object that killed a sideckick would be displayed to the public. You would think that Batman, of all people would keep it private. Maybe it's there to warn others not to become superheroes. Hopefully it isn't because the writers are making Jason's death out to be his fault, and so this is setting him as an example. However, it may just be there as a hint of things to come.

The interaction between sidekicks and mentors was nice to see. However Babs being there felt sort of awkward, because they haven't explained how she became Batgirl and why she joined the Team. In the comics, she started off on her own and only had minimal support from Bruce. I know that YJ has diverted from the comis, but it would be nice to know her origin.

Is it me or is Lagoon Boy really annoying now? The epic and emotional moment of Kaldur's reveal was utterly ruined by Lagoon Boy.

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@Shutdown said:

@Shutdown said:

The feeling I'm getting is that they have so many members, that all of them won't get enough exposure. 11 members seems like too much. However I thought Alienated was a really good episode.

The interaction between sidekicks and mentors was nice to see. However Babs being there felt sort of awkward, because they haven't explained how she became Batgirl and why she joined the Team. In the comics, she started off on her own and only had minimal support from Bruce. I know that YJ has diverted from the comis, but it would be nice to know her origin.

Is it me or is Lagoon Boy really annoying now? The epic and emotional moment of Kaldur's reveal was utterly ruined by Lagoon Boy.



Where is everyone seeing the "crowbar"...the two boys are looking at a katana blade presumably from some villain
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Where is everyone seeing the "crowbar"...the two boys are looking at a katana blade presumably from some villain

Yes, that is definitely a katana scabbard they are looking at.

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Im still little annoyed at time skip missing out on 5 years of what happend but so far young justice invasion has be good, I wonder what happend Wally and Artemis also thinking Aqualad maybe working undercover for Nightwing just theory. kinda like Aqualad wearing black manta armour looks badass wearing it also after 5 years Superboy hasn't got any stronger power wise, role on team as powerhouse in terms of strength seems be mute now they got Wonder Girl and Lagoon Boy I was hoping start developing other Kryptonian powers or at least have his tactile telekinetic powers during those 5 years but doesn't seem have improve much at all.

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@fodigg said:

I'm a little annoyed about the Aqualad thing. And I'm still wondering about other missing characters. I feel like we're bouncing around a lot and not really nailing down a core team. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I didn't expect Dick/Megan/Connor as their core group.

I haven't watched it yet, but I think it'll be okay. On the otherhand, I don't understand the second point? You don't like that Dick, Connor and Megan are still mainstays?

Not that I don't like it, I just wasn't expecting it. Dick, of course, but with the emphasis on Roy toward the end I thought he'd become more prominent. And dropping the comedic character, Wally, really surprised me. (Although he was deftly replaced by a character with a connection to one of the "core" members.)

It does make sense, of course, they're keeping Batman & Superman's sidekicks and, well, Miss Martian has a strong connection to one of them romantically which makes for juicy plot points. So we have a "jr. trinity" of Nightwing, Superboy, and Miss Martian (as Wonder Girl is new and therefore wouldn't work). I should have seen that coming even if Superboy wasn't a "classic" Titan.

If there's anything I don't like about this setup, it's simply that reducing to a "core" cast around which others would revolve at the cost of the original full cast was necessary at all, but that's probably unavoidable with such an expanded cast in total. In fact, they will no doubt have episodes where those core characters--or any of the season one characters--don't appear at all, just like the adult trinity didn't appear in some episodes of JLU. An example would include the fantastic JLU episode starring the classic Seven Soldiers of Victory:

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@fodigg: I see your point and I'll politely disagree. I won't go into detail, but

  1. That was JLU. If you want to compare YJ with anything, then compare it with JL.
  2. It just that Megan and Superboy are the members without links elsewhere, so they stayed. All of the rest of them followed their links in life, including Grayson, who's "links" happened to be on the team, which meant he stayed. I'm not sure I even made sense, but I'm unfortunately too lazy to translate.
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@fodigg: I see your point and I'll politely disagree. I won't go into detail, but

  1. That was JLU. If you want to compare YJ with anything, then compare it with JL.
  2. It just that Megan and Superboy are the members without links elsewhere, so they stayed. All of the rest of them followed their links in life, including Grayson, who's "links" happened to be on the team, which meant he stayed. I'm not sure I even made sense, but I'm unfortunately too lazy to translate.

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  1. Season 2 feels more like JLU to me than JL. The cast has exploded with not only new members across multiple sub-teams, but with a lot more face time for the adult justice league. I hope they bring the season one team back together and is in that way "more like JL," but I suspect they're trending toward expansion, and not the slow expansion of the Teen Titans Go! cartoon that still maintained the core group while doing so.
  2. I think I get what you're saying, but the "links" are whatever the writers make of them.
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@fodigg said:

t does make sense, of course, they're keeping Batman & Superman's sidekicks and, well, Miss Martian has a strong connection to one of them romantically which makes for juicy plot points. So we have a "jr. trinity" of Nightwing, Superboy, and Miss Martian (as Wonder Girl is new and therefore wouldn't work). I should have seen that coming even if Superboy wasn't a "classic" Titan. 


 I wouldn't say it has anything to do with a "Jr. Trinity" Superboy and Miss Martian were always essentially the stars of the show...they were the only two members present for every episode, also having the most spotlight episodes. They didn't age like everyone else, and for yet undisclosed reasons...stayed with the team, Nightwing became the leader, with the younger team representing a Young Justice/Teen Titans mash up
 
Some characters are not going to make the cut apparently, and some characters will have more of a spotlight, the season is still early yet. I think Blue Beetle, Wonder Girl and Beast Boy will get more exposure than the rest


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@fodigg said:

@ReVamp said:

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  1. Season 2 feels more like JLU to me than JL. The cast has exploded with not only new members across multiple sub-teams, but with a lot more face time for the adult justice league. I hope they bring the season one team back together and is in that way "more like JL," but I suspect they're trending toward expansion, and not the slow expansion of the Teen Titans Go! cartoon that still maintained the core group while doing so
According to the shows creators, the League is suppose to appear a lot less in this season...the first three episodes were dealing with the plot point that explains where they are going....as I mentioned, some new members aren't suppose to make it.....they might contract as opposed to expand from the current cast
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@fodigg said:

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  1. Season 2 feels more like JLU to me than JL. The cast has exploded with not only new members across multiple sub-teams, but with a lot more face time for the adult justice league. I hope they bring the season one team back together and is in that way "more like JL," but I suspect they're trending toward expansion, and not the slow expansion of the Teen Titans Go! cartoon that still maintained the core group while doing so.
  2. I think I get what you're saying, but the "links" are whatever the writers make of them.
  1. Well, here's the thing. You say you're getting the feeling of it being more JLU as opposed to being more JL, and then you blatantly expect you to give you a JLU style story. (No offense, I'm sure you're taking none, but just in case). The more correct approach would be to look at it as a roatating case of characters. The first one had the original team, and now they rotated to this team and some extra people.
  2. Well, I'm going based on comics. Nightwing makes sense to be the leader of the team, he's been in practically every incarnation of the Teen Titans. Wally gave up on being Kid Flash to be normal and it makes sense Artemis would to, given the option, to runaway from her familiy (so to speak). Aqualad's decisions are obvious from the past episodes (though it could him being a mole, but I won't get into any of my crazy ass theories) and Red Arrow had his obvious problem. Megan and Superboy on the otherhand have nowhere else to go. I mean, I could see Megan going to Mars, but I don't think there's any concrete reason as to why.
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I wouldn't say it has anything to do with a "Jr. Trinity" Superboy and Miss Martian were always essentially the stars of the show...they were the only two members present for every episode, also having the most spotlight episodes. They didn't age like everyone else, and for yet undisclosed reasons...stayed with the team, Nightwing became the leader, with the younger team representing a Young Justice/Teen Titans mash up

Some characters are not going to make the cut apparently, and some characters will have more of a spotlight, the season is still early yet. I think Blue Beetle, Wonder Girl and Beast Boy will get more exposure than the rest

Wow, is that true? They're the only characters in each episode? Hmm. And here I thought the plot points of the first season were spread around pretty well. If anyone got lots of time it was Superboy as his escape kind of kicked off the show, but then I guess his connection to Megan would be enough to pull her in even if she wasn't given equal prominence.

Oh, and my point was not that they set out to create a "trinity", but rather compare the way the trinity was used in the JLU stuff to get across the idea of a core group of characters in a larger ensemble cast.

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According to the shows creators, the League is suppose to appear a lot less in this season...the first three episodes were dealing with the plot point that explains where they are going....as I mentioned, some new members aren't suppose to make it.....they might contract as opposed to expand from the current cast

That would be nice. Although that would undoubtedly mean cutting out some of the characters I loved from season one for the long haul, if they keep up with this big a cast I think it'll get unwieldy.

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  1. Well, here's the thing. You say you're getting the feeling of it being more JLU as opposed to being more JL, and then you blatantly expect you to give you a JLU style story. (No offense, I'm sure you're taking none, but just in case). The more correct approach would be to look at it as a roatating case of characters. The first one had the original team, and now they rotated to this team and some extra people.
  2. Well, I'm going based on comics. Nightwing makes sense to be the leader of the team, he's been in practically every incarnation of the Teen Titans. Wally gave up on being Kid Flash to be normal and it makes sense Artemis would to, given the option, to runaway from her familiy (so to speak). Aqualad's decisions are obvious from the past episodes (though it could him being a mole, but I won't get into any of my crazy ass theories) and Red Arrow had his obvious problem. Megan and Superboy on the otherhand have nowhere else to go. I mean, I could see Megan going to Mars, but I don't think there's any concrete reason as to why.

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  1. No offense taken, of course. It seems like you're saying that the assumption I'm making is that we're going to bounce from sub-group to sub-group instead of having a longer progression (similar to season one) with a larger-but-stable new group. I think you would be correct if the team does actually contract to a more limited cast as suggested by cattlebattle above, but I think the episodes we've had so far support my perspective. We've bounced around from Tim's sub-group, to the Rann sub-group, back to the larger ensemble, etc. Obviously what they've done in the first few episodes doesn't preclude them for doing differently the rest of the season, but I have to go with the trend I see. It's not a bad thing, necessarily, it's just different and I'm not sure I prefer it.
  2. All I'm saying is that in the time-leap forward, those plot threads for various characters seem to have either led them away from the team or been resolved and led to growth in the character and to sticking with the team, and which was which seemed rather arbitrary. We could have been given an Aqualad still on the team who just acted more like Roy in season one after having already been through the dark turn stuff, but they no doubt thought he was more interesting this way so opted to put us in the middle of that arc. Similarly, we could have been given a Miss Martian who opted to quit the team to care for Beast Boy rather than allow him to join it. It could have gone either way.
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@fodigg: I think both of the latter option you've given don't make sense from a writing standpoint, though.

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@fodigg: I think both of the latter option you've given don't make sense from a writing standpoint, though.

I'm not arguing that's the direction they should have gone, just using some random examples illustrating that they could have taken the show in other directions. I have to assume that the writers are more talented than me and could come up with better alternatives. I'm simply saying you can't really treat the new status quo as inevitable given a 5 year gap. A lot can happen in 5 years.

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At least they seem to do some things right by bringing Wally/Artemis back and also Roy/Cheshire back ( along with Lian no less ! )

I still can't get myself into the flow of the show because of the time skip and all the ''past secrets'' but this new changes may capture my interest back.

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@BlackArmor: Yeah, they really did. I wasn't sure whether or not they were going to ruin it towards the end, but it ended well. I hope that the Megann/Lagoon Boy thing isn't just Megan having a pity party of being ugly as fck.

Well, I don't know, is that how Martian psychology works? We, as humans, find the Martians' true forms disgusting. How is M'gaan, as a Martian, capable of finding humans attractive? Shouldn't she be equally disgusted with us primates? Perhaps their shape-shifting abilities helped broaden the Martians' mental horizons, allowing them to find beauty and sexual attraction in all species. Even Lagoon Boy.

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@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@BlackArmor: Yeah, they really did. I wasn't sure whether or not they were going to ruin it towards the end, but it ended well. I hope that the Megann/Lagoon Boy thing isn't just Megan having a pity party of being ugly as fck.

Well, I don't know, is that how Martian psychology works? We, as humans, find the Martians' true forms disgusting. How is M'gaan, as a Martian, capable of finding humans attractive? Shouldn't she be equally disgusted with us primates? Perhaps their shape-shifting abilities helped broaden the Martians' mental horizons, allowing them to find beauty and sexual attraction in all species. Even Lagoon Boy.

I'm not talking about Martians, its quite apparent that Megan as a white martian thinks that she's hideous.

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@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@BlackArmor: Yeah, they really did. I wasn't sure whether or not they were going to ruin it towards the end, but it ended well. I hope that the Megann/Lagoon Boy thing isn't just Megan having a pity party of being ugly as fck.

Well, I don't know, is that how Martian psychology works? We, as humans, find the Martians' true forms disgusting. How is M'gaan, as a Martian, capable of finding humans attractive? Shouldn't she be equally disgusted with us primates? Perhaps their shape-shifting abilities helped broaden the Martians' mental horizons, allowing them to find beauty and sexual attraction in all species. Even Lagoon Boy.

I'm not talking about Martians, its quite apparent that Megan as a white martian thinks that she's hideous.

Sure, I was referencing the "pity party" bit. There is nothing to suggest she actually finds Lagoon Boy "ugly".

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@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@BlackArmor: Yeah, they really did. I wasn't sure whether or not they were going to ruin it towards the end, but it ended well. I hope that the Megann/Lagoon Boy thing isn't just Megan having a pity party of being ugly as fck.

Well, I don't know, is that how Martian psychology works? We, as humans, find the Martians' true forms disgusting. How is M'gaan, as a Martian, capable of finding humans attractive? Shouldn't she be equally disgusted with us primates? Perhaps their shape-shifting abilities helped broaden the Martians' mental horizons, allowing them to find beauty and sexual attraction in all species. Even Lagoon Boy.

I'm not talking about Martians, its quite apparent that Megan as a white martian thinks that she's hideous.

Sure, I was referencing the "pity party" bit. There is nothing to suggest she actually finds Lagoon Boy "ugly".

I said that she was having a Pity party of being "different" from the rest of them, which is why she'd lean towards Lagoon Boy, because he's "different" as well.

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@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@BlackArmor: Yeah, they really did. I wasn't sure whether or not they were going to ruin it towards the end, but it ended well. I hope that the Megann/Lagoon Boy thing isn't just Megan having a pity party of being ugly as fck.

Well, I don't know, is that how Martian psychology works? We, as humans, find the Martians' true forms disgusting. How is M'gaan, as a Martian, capable of finding humans attractive? Shouldn't she be equally disgusted with us primates? Perhaps their shape-shifting abilities helped broaden the Martians' mental horizons, allowing them to find beauty and sexual attraction in all species. Even Lagoon Boy.

I'm not talking about Martians, its quite apparent that Megan as a white martian thinks that she's hideous.

Sure, I was referencing the "pity party" bit. There is nothing to suggest she actually finds Lagoon Boy "ugly".

I said that she was having a Pity party of being "different" from the rest of them, which is why she'd lean towards Lagoon Boy, because he's "different" as well.

Well, sorry for misunderstanding. To be fair, the word you used in your original comment was "ugly" so I really couldn't help it.

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@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@BlackArmor: Yeah, they really did. I wasn't sure whether or not they were going to ruin it towards the end, but it ended well. I hope that the Megann/Lagoon Boy thing isn't just Megan having a pity party of being ugly as fck.

Well, I don't know, is that how Martian psychology works? We, as humans, find the Martians' true forms disgusting. How is M'gaan, as a Martian, capable of finding humans attractive? Shouldn't she be equally disgusted with us primates? Perhaps their shape-shifting abilities helped broaden the Martians' mental horizons, allowing them to find beauty and sexual attraction in all species. Even Lagoon Boy.

I'm not talking about Martians, its quite apparent that Megan as a white martian thinks that she's hideous.

Sure, I was referencing the "pity party" bit. There is nothing to suggest she actually finds Lagoon Boy "ugly".

I said that she was having a Pity party of being "different" from the rest of them, which is why she'd lean towards Lagoon Boy, because he's "different" as well.

Well, sorry for misunderstanding. To be fair, the word you used in your original comment was "ugly" so I really couldn't help it.

It's not a pity party when you look like a monster

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@Jnr6Lil said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@BlackArmor: Yeah, they really did. I wasn't sure whether or not they were going to ruin it towards the end, but it ended well. I hope that the Megann/Lagoon Boy thing isn't just Megan having a pity party of being ugly as fck.

Well, I don't know, is that how Martian psychology works? We, as humans, find the Martians' true forms disgusting. How is M'gaan, as a Martian, capable of finding humans attractive? Shouldn't she be equally disgusted with us primates? Perhaps their shape-shifting abilities helped broaden the Martians' mental horizons, allowing them to find beauty and sexual attraction in all species. Even Lagoon Boy.

I'm not talking about Martians, its quite apparent that Megan as a white martian thinks that she's hideous.

Sure, I was referencing the "pity party" bit. There is nothing to suggest she actually finds Lagoon Boy "ugly".

I said that she was having a Pity party of being "different" from the rest of them, which is why she'd lean towards Lagoon Boy, because he's "different" as well.

Well, sorry for misunderstanding. To be fair, the word you used in your original comment was "ugly" so I really couldn't help it.

It's not a pity party when you look like a monster

That statement makes 0 sense.

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@ReVamp said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Underachiever007 said:

@ReVamp said:

@BlackArmor: Yeah, they really did. I wasn't sure whether or not they were going to ruin it towards the end, but it ended well. I hope that the Megann/Lagoon Boy thing isn't just Megan having a pity party of being ugly as fck.

Well, I don't know, is that how Martian psychology works? We, as humans, find the Martians' true forms disgusting. How is M'gaan, as a Martian, capable of finding humans attractive? Shouldn't she be equally disgusted with us primates? Perhaps their shape-shifting abilities helped broaden the Martians' mental horizons, allowing them to find beauty and sexual attraction in all species. Even Lagoon Boy.

I'm not talking about Martians, its quite apparent that Megan as a white martian thinks that she's hideous.

Sure, I was referencing the "pity party" bit. There is nothing to suggest she actually finds Lagoon Boy "ugly".

I said that she was having a Pity party of being "different" from the rest of them, which is why she'd lean towards Lagoon Boy, because he's "different" as well.

Well, sorry for misunderstanding. To be fair, the word you used in your original comment was "ugly" so I really couldn't help it.

It's not a pity party when you look like a monster

That statement makes 0 sense.

A pity party would be trying to make people sad for you over something that's probably not that major, in this case it's more important.

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@Jnr6Lil:Defined as:

  1. A party you throw for yourself after something bad has happened to you.
  2. is when someone wants somebody to feel sorry for them

You think its over something that's not important, but there's nothing to prove anything of the like. Regardless I'm not going to argue the semantic of an expression with you, as its totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

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@Jnr6Lil:Defined as:

  1. A party you throw for yourself after something bad has happened to you.
  2. is when someone wants somebody to feel sorry for them

You think its over something that's not important, but there's nothing to prove anything of the like. Regardless I'm not going to argue the semantic of an expression with you, as its totally irrelevant to the topic at hand.

However when people use the term it's usually with a negative connotation.

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@BlueLantern1995 said:

Hey I saw Aqualad! No joke. Wasn't he the black guy kinda looked like him talking to team? If not then who was that?

That was Mal Duncan.

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