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Why wouldn't Paragon know that? It's obvious he's wielding guns and icing things with them.

The way I imagine it, Cold would be under the Jet and only able to hit the underside of it, giving Andrew the windshield to escape if he needs to.

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#4  Edited By Retnex

@DedmanWalkin:

K, I'll just have Paragon use the trick on Cold's guns instead, lol

I thought tele-dismemberment meant teleporting a part of someone away from their body, but I'm not sure. We can find out .

I'm actually surprised Freddy has to be in proximity, I was assuming he just had to be in view. But If Cold's field doesn't affect him it doesn't really matter.

While we're waiting, am I wrong in the jet protection assessment?

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@DedmanWalkin: Does Frederick have to be near Cold to teleport him?

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I'm not trying to make a point of Andrew's speed, but that he has the jet as protection. It will give him the chance to escape the jet with his powers. Plus Cold and Frederick will have to focus on the tornado, then Cole, then the jet (of which Heroman will be dropping out of). Even if he does all this and hits the jet, Andrew has the opportunity to break out and be out of view. Unless Freddy and Cole are going to chase Andrew down, they won't see him after he turns a corner.

If Captain Cold is impossible to touch, what happens if Paragon teleports her blade into Captain Cold? If may freeze there, but it appears there none-the-less. It may take out Paragon, but it would take out Captain Cold as well.

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#6  Edited By Retnex

@DedmanWalkin:

One large frozen tornado? Well, at least that would provide protection from the tanker trucks. Cole will be gone right after his tornado, but Heroman will be on the ground with Criti. Andrew is using a jet as protection, and also uses a protective barrier around his body with his telekinesis (that way he can smash through buildings and catch projectiles. Plus his plan is to just fly out of the area, while Heroman jumps Criti. He'd likely have room to break his way through the ice and flee.

Paragon and Cole will have seen Cold's potential, and probably won't rush out in the open. Criti is throwing tankers at the Baxter building, but there are other buildings in the area. Paragon and Cole can teleport to one of those without your teams knowing. Cole has an ability called "Precision" which is a sniper like ability but with his electricity. He'd likely aim for either Cold or Frederick, weakening their tactic.

Andrew wouldn't return unless he was given the all clear. Once Cole takes the shot, no matter how effective, I'd imagine your team would focus in his direction. At that point, Andrew would take an alternative building nearby, and pull Heroman to him from a distance. Once Heroman is in his possession, he'd fly out with him to try and free him.

Sorry if some of this is grasping at straws, but I'm just trying to keep it interesting. I think we only have a day or two till voting anyway.

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@DedmanWalkin:

I hardly remember studying Frederick Douglas in the 8th grade, don't know why I can't get past mixing up his name.

If we are going to slug it out, I'll try to determine what my team would do if all they knew was that you were coming for us (I haven't got the chance to do that yet, haha).

As far as prep, I'll only go as far as having my team understand your powers, and possibly use cars and vehicles in the streets/building (as projectiles and barricades only). I'd also like to use a headset device so my team can communicate.

Andrew Detmer is obviously the weakest member of my team, but he is also the fastest as he can fly rather quickly. His telekinesis allows him to lift heavy buses from a distance with ease while he is in the air. To make up for his lack of defense, he'd probably use the Fantastic Four jet, though he'd use his telekinesis to fly it instead of the intended way to fly a jet.

Heroman is a hand to hand fighter, especially without his other powers. He'd likely fly with Andrew, and plan to be dropped on top of your team (in this case just Criti Noll). It'd be risky but he wouldn't be much use from a distance.

Cole has some very powerful attacks. This is when the cars outside would come into play. My team would spend their prep time spreading cars out randomly in the street (however many are nearby). In the first sign of an enemy, Cole would use his tornado attack. In the game, this power limited by a special kind of blast shard. Every time he uses this power, he loses one blast shard, and he can only hold three at a time. So I could say that Cole can do this 3 times maximum. Cole would be on the roof of the building, hiding and watching for the attack. Once he sees it, he takes the first move by throwing the tornado. I will say the tornado isn't big enough to take down a building, but the cars will be tossed around randomly. Also the tornado will only last about 15 seconds.

Paragon is my strongest team member, so she will be more cautionary. Once Cole throws his tornado, she will teleport him through the building, but only to take him down to the bottom floor. The other team members will fight outside, while she awaits inside in case something happens.

So, joining this with your plan, I will try to estimate what will happen. I can't accurately guess what your team will do when a situation changes, so this is when we can have some fun and work out how this battle takes place.

First thing, Criti shows up with a assortment of tanker trucks. I would imagine he'd ignore the car maze since he can throw the tankers over the cars. The tankers flying towards the building would trigger Cole's tornado, but that probably wouldn't stop the trucks. Paragon would be have to teleport Cole inside for protection.

Criti would shrink at the sight of the tornado, or would he? I know you said he'd become more dense, but would becoming smaller in a tornado be his initial reaction? Remember he has to deal with the cars being flung around. Anyway, he could still hide from sight even before the tornado hits him.

Andrew would then fly out with Heroman, and drop Heroman where Criti was. Andrew would fly out of the area, while Heroman would be surrounded by cars and rubble looking for Criti.

Frederick and Captain Cold would likely go for Cole as soon as he throws his tornado. While Frederick can teleport and Captain Cold has a fast shot, I think Paragon and Cole would get inside before they arrive, as that was their plan anyway. This would, however, change their sights to Heroman.

Heroman wouldn't be able to find Criti Noll in the rubble if he shrunk. Captain Cold and Frederick would teleport near Heroman, and even though he has cover thanks to the cars tossed around, Captain Cold would probably be able to shoot him. I'm guessing Captain Cold's gun instantly freezes whatever it hits, yes?

Cole would reach the bottom floor, and see that Heroman has been frozen. If the cars haven't exploded, Cole would probably use his lightning storm, draining a lot of his energy but sending a volley of lighting strikes at your team and blowing up cars along the way. Your team members would be able to teleport away, but I still have to wonder what Criti would be up to. I don't know how much it would take to free Heroman, but I wouldn't say the lighting storm would do it.

I'm going to stop my long post here and let you make your input. I don't want to take too many creative liberties.

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@DedmanWalkin said:

Frederick Douglass?

DAMN IT! DAMN IT! DAMN IT! I KNEW I WOULD DO THAT! I'VE BEEN TRYING TO STOP MYSELF BUT I FAILED!

I was actually thinking it might be a better tactic for you just to attack the building with out the negative zone, but how big of a bomb were you planning on using? I thought you just wanted to take down the building, not the city!

Why can't you use Stark's portal?

Anyway, I'm not trying to knock down your plan, as it's well thought out and I knew going into this I have a weak team compared to the others. I just thought it might be funner for the readers if we slugged it out. You could still use the bomb tactic, as I think the stealth aspect makes this interesting. I just don't know if the bomb would be allowed to detonate until the fight begins (if any team members are inside they'd likely be taken out by it, so it'd still work for you). That would give my team the opportunity to acknowledge the fight.

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@DedmanWalkin:

Another question that @beatboks1: will have to address:

I think when Beatbok1 gave us prep time, he was implying that the fight doesn't start until an exact moment. As in, the fight can only begin at a certain time. This doesn't mean much against your plans, because your team can just wait until the fight starts to place the bomb and make the switch. This would, however, give my team the chance to understand they are even in a fight. While your plan is much better thought out and creative, you could compare it to your team breaking into a military bunker and launching a nuke at the Baxter building. My point is, I think this was supposed to be a battle where your team gets an earlier chance to make a plan, while mine gets a building to use in less time. I'm not sure any attacks are supposed to happen before hand.

Anyway, Paragon might not know what the Negative Zone is, but there is a monitor for it and she isn't the type to sit around and do nothing. Why would there be such a monitor if it wasn't important? Plus, you may have those 12 hours ahead of us, but that's 12 hours for Paragon to be monitoring whatever is available. That would also alert her to the bomb, which an active bomb would set her off anyway. With Paragons teleporting ability, she can traverse the building quickly, and monitor the building and anything else with the equipment at hand. Plus, Frederick Douglas doesn't teleport quietly, as he makes a *blink* noise, right? Paragon is trained as the ultimate weapon, and has advance technology built into her. That and the Baxter building security, she'd probably catch on that someone's placing a bomb in the building and activating a device.

The point of Heroman/Cole being outside the building is that if the building was taken to the Negative Zone, only half of my team would be gone. Of those half gone, believe it or not Andrew has survived 2 explosions before, one a gas station and the other an explosion he caused with his own power. He flies through buildings unscathed, so he may be able to react and fly out of the area. Paragon can teleport rapidly, and escape harm through those means. She also has a bubble shield she creates by kneeling down.

Your team does have major advantages, so if you want to start discussing who'd win in a straight up fight as it was intended (instead of finding loopholes ya jerk) you'd have a good chance of beating me. But if you don't want this to be a fun fight... I'll do what I can.

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#10  Edited By Retnex

I'd just like to point out that three people used the number 42 as their random number.

So I guess there's some fans of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy in this tourney.