RetconCrisis

I don't know why Nightwing is the main focus. Of all the non-powered beings to achieve this, Nightwing would be the last person I would imagine doing it. Someone like Batman, or Prometheus, or Lex Luthor, but... Nightwing? He doesn't have the arsenal to do it...

I agree with that idea. Modernist literature, unlike the older formulas of comic books in the 70s and late 60s, is oddly enough open for a broader range of audiences than traditional comic book styles. As a kid, I always looked up to Superman. The way he fought for justice and stuff was always appealing to me, and the simplistic "I gotta stop the bad guys" story lines weren't a problem. But in the 70s, that was almost a trademark of comics at the time. Sure, they also went in directions that modern audiences would call "dark" and definitely had many story lines for mature audiences, but back then there was always a divide between "kids" and "adults." Even now, when kids are more open to "dark" movies, there is still that divide.

For example, (ranting time) Transformers Prime was a great show. It took its characters seriously as the show went on and didn't really pull any punches. The characterizations were all unique and weren't simple archetypes; it was a show that could truly appeal to both kids and adults. However, as it leaned more towards the adults, Hasbro needs to sell toys, and only kids really buy toys. So, the show was scrapped in favor of the most recent show, Robots in Disguise (which is the same name as the 2001 Transformers show so that's confusing).

The odd thing is that RiD still uses the same storyline as Prime. It's not like they began a new show with a new plot and characters; they were the same characters, kinda like what DBZ is to Dragon Ball. But in this case, it's the same story and characters but told in an entirely different way. The characters were more lighthearted, the colors were brighter, the art style was more cartoony. To sell toys, they turned their attention to promoting child audiences, but ended up alienating the adult audience. This was almost a pointless move IMO because kids still enjoyed Prime anyway. A lot of kids I knew liked Prime and a lot of adults liked Prime. Adults who grew up with the cartoony 80s cartoon still enjoyed Prime, and kids who were accustomed to the Michael Bay popcorn flicks still enjoyed Prime even though it had a much different, slower approach compared to the explody movies. (Side note, Optimus Prime still straight up murders enemies in the Bay films, so maybe kids are more exposed to dark stuff than I thought nowadays)

So in this way, it seems to me that modern comic audiences are more likely to appreciate the style you mentioned. At least that's what I've gotten from what I've seen from movies like Logan (lots of kids I know watched and really enjoyed Logan).

@galactic_1000: Depends on definition of "element". If you think of elements like earth, wind, fire, air, then it is very limited and definitely weaker.

But if you use that scientific definition of elements you mentioned (hydrogen and stuff), then elemental manipulation would, scientifically in theory, be like changing iron to gold by altering the atomic structure. Someone like Firestorm, for example.

Matter manipulation would be controlling anything but light and sound. Something like plasma (which is what exists on our Sun; the hydrogen on the sun is so hot that it turns into the fourth matter phase, plasma) would be something a matter manipulator can control that an elemental manipulator most likely could also (even though it's plasma it still has to be an element, so that's where the blurred line is).

So if we look at it scientifically, all elements are matter, and if someone can change elements, then they can change atomic structure like electrons, protons, etc. so that means they are also atomic manipulators. But matter manipulators might be able to control beyond the atomic structure, like quarks or other smaller particles.

But if we look at what they are in comics and not scientific in definition, matter manipulators are below reality warpers, so they can't defy physics. So I guess that way they are the almost the same thing. By name, matter manipulators would have to be at least a little bit more powerful than elemental manipulators.

Naruto fanboys are a lot more vocal than OP fanboys so I'm gonna say Naruto based on presence.

Nova, we've already been introduced to the Nova Corps and they already have a solid infrastructure for the character.

Anyone but Sentry, please. Sentry is too OP for the MCU and he'd have to be nerfed a ton. It just wouldn't fit imo.

7, a solid film for what it had. There was a lot going on in the film and they handled that aspect well for what it was.

Probably a few. In areas without any Internet or cultural impact from other countries they may not recognize Superman. But even people I know who grew up in the 50s in 3rd world countries with no access to comics still knew who Superman was. But then again that was when Superman was gaining a huge following. Now his popularity has more or less flattened out.

Financially DCEU is doing fine if not great.

I can understand what the OP means as in critically the DCEU has been suffering, with Man of Steel being heavily divisive and BvS and Suicide Squad being mostly negatively reviewed. However with the huge jump in critical success with Wonder Woman, the DCEU only needs JL to get higher than a 7/10 average rating to earn a better critical record. (Considering BvS and Suicide Squad have been described as mediocre, 5/10 for most critics.)

I'd say Blackest Night, but that would probably only work well as an animated movie.

Something like S/B Public Enemies would be interesting if the universe gets expanded to more heroes. Suicide Squad plus Justice League members under President Luthor vs Supes and Bats would be cool to see. Granted this would likely never happen with the current roster.

@ig-88: That's really interesting. He must have had a lot of commitment and passion to his role. Do you know if he prepared by doing this before the first movie? Or was it after the success of the first movie that he worked to improve his performance? If you don't mind me asking.