Prophecies for those that should know better


Prophecies are a weird thing when they get applied to science fiction.  In terms of the literal meaning of a prophecy, it is essentially the word of a god which gets sent to a prophet.  In more general terms it is often used to give a sense of meaning more along the lines of a premonition or a prognostication, but to give it a certain amount of extra value (plus maybe to sound more menacing.)  What is interesting though is that two intergalactic bodies of highly advanced beings – the Guardians of Oa and the Jedi High Council – were both depicted as falling for a prophecy.  In both cases the prophecy gets acted upon and in a sort of reverse of the grandfather principle of time travel (as in don’t travel back in time and kill your grandfather) the powerful beings set themselves up directly into the path of ruin by actually listening to the prophecy.  In the case of the Jedis this is the collapse of the Republic and the rise of Darth Vader.  In the case of the Guardians, this is the enactment of new rules for the Book of Oa which eventually lead to the events of Blackest Night.  Still the question remains, why would these people who have such amazing scientific insight resort to something far more religious in nature.  Of course there are aspects of religion for both the Jedi and the Guardians.  The Jedi maintain a philosophy which some say borders on religion while the Guardians understanding of the emotional spectrum goes beyond that of only science.  It is still not fair to abandon science in such a way, it is akin to that kid in the not so good movie Lady in the Water, that can read prophecies off of cereal boxes.  With such an “expert” at the helm it takes away from the ability to control one’s future which the two groups advocate more than listening to superstitious predictions. 

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15 Comments
Posted by KingofMadCows

In both cases, it's due to bad retcon.

There was no mention of any prophecies in the prequel trilogy.

There was no mention of the Guardians following any prophecies until recently. The Book of Oa was supposed to be a collection of the Guardian's knowledge and history.

Posted by Daveyo520

There is no need to have a giant book like that.

Posted by RazzaTazz
@Daveyo520: they could probably fit most of that on a computer actually
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Posted by Daveyo520

@RazzaTazz: I am sure all of that would take up not too much space. Just a waste of a lot of spacetrees or ring energy.

Posted by RazzaTazz
@Daveyo520: Or both
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Posted by Daveyo520

@RazzaTazz: I bet they cut down all the space trees on Oa to make books like that.

Posted by ReVamp

Or they could just not make the book in the first place, seeing as they don't heed to the prophecies either way.

Posted by RazzaTazz
@ReVamp: Well as was mentioned, the book was not always designed to hold prophecies but more as a source of their knowledge
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Posted by ReVamp

@RazzaTazz said:

@ReVamp: Well as was mentioned, the book was not always designed to hold prophecies but more as a source of their knowledge

Yeah, I was going for the funny, not the smarty. :P

Posted by HolySerpent

I hate prophecies . I really do. Writers and authors should stop using it

Posted by RazzaTazz
@HolySerpent: They make sense for biblical stories or ones based in myth, but I mostly agree
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Posted by White Mage

@ReVamp said:

@RazzaTazz said:

@ReVamp: Well as was mentioned, the book was not always designed to hold prophecies but more as a source of their knowledge

Yeah, I was going for the funny, not the smarty. :P

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Posted by KingofMadCows

It would make sense for the Guardians to have some kind of highly dependable probabilistic model with which they can predict the chances that a future event will or will not occur. They would then take actions to increase the probability of a good outcome while decreasing the probability of a bad outcome.

Posted by ReVamp

@White Mage said:

@ReVamp said:

@RazzaTazz said:

@ReVamp: Well as was mentioned, the book was not always designed to hold prophecies but more as a source of their knowledge

Yeah, I was going for the funny, not the smarty. :P

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This ain't Facebook, unless you're talking about the actual emotion, in which case I don't know what to tell you as I'm a robot from Mars that doesn't feel.

Posted by White Mage

@ReVamp said:

@White Mage said:

@ReVamp said:

@RazzaTazz said:

@ReVamp: Well as was mentioned, the book was not always designed to hold prophecies but more as a source of their knowledge

Yeah, I was going for the funny, not the smarty. :P

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This ain't Facebook, unless you're talking about the actual emotion, in which case I don't know what to tell you as I'm a robot from Mars that doesn't feel.

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