The real question is if anyone agrees with this article. Some users are in the right to say that Batman will never truly know a happy ending. Sure he may have some surrogate sons along with a biological one and yeah Bruce knows what love feels like but one of the pinnacle critiques about Batman is that Bruce can never have a normal happy life or move on as Nolan has painted throughout his trilogy. It would be realistic that Bruce has considered a normal life by moving on but every night he jumps from rooftop to rooftop, he sees a new brand of evil that must be put in its place, he can't stop because Gotham will always need "the Batman" not "a Batman". These are the quintessential human qualities of Batman, Bruce will carry on til he is too old to fight on and he knows that he can't be everywhere like Superman so he reluctantly brings in recruits into his life like the Robins and Batgirls or members of Batman Inc. I stand by what I believe and that is Nolan may have revamped our fondness of Batman and brought about ideas that we wanted to see on the big screen but this is not the "be all to end all" Batman film saga. What will make matters worse is Nolan fanatics or amateur comic book movie goers will have their expectations high on any new Batman reboot and if one thing does not live up to their standards then they will spoil it for everyone else. This Batman trilogy needs to be knocked off its pedestal and placed at the tip of the iceberg. Only when someone truly digs into the core of this iceberg will they have found and created the ultimate and untouchable Batman saga. Something neither Nolan or Burton will ever have imagined.
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@zackattack529: I like your point of view on a Batman reboot. Hopefully the reboot will remain dark and witty while at the same time elude to a Justice League movie. Unfortunately, an origin story is needed. Personally, I would like to see more of Bruce's development with the League of Assassins. Imagine how much fun it would be to see Batman going toe to toe with David Cain (Bruce's trainer), Ra's al Ghul (Bruce's mentor) and Deadshot (Bruce's rival) in one movie.
Sorry to say but I am kinda glad that Captain Atom is getting cancelled. Is was getting way too 2001 Space Odyssey. I also heard Suicide Squad, Deathstroke, and Blue Beetle might be cancelled. I hope Deathstroke gets cancelled because his development as a lone assassin in his own series is starting to get boring. Deathstroke is a great villain but all he has been doing is facing off against petty marks or other wannabee mercenaries. Another series they should cancel is Firestorm, its not as weird as Captain Atom but I don't feel like its going anywhere. As for Green Arrow, I'm reaching that point where they should cancel it as well because the villains and stories he is mixed up with aren't all that thrilling. Sad to say but I think the axe should also fall on Red Hood and the Outlaws and Birds of Prey. You know I gotta better idea I will make a list of titles that should be cancelled and maybe you can agree or disagree. I look forward to your input users.
I always knew Battleship was going to suck. Let's face it the idea of aliens, zombies or vampires invading the theaters has become totally hackneyed. If ain't Transformers, the Skrulls or the Marvel Undead then nobody will really care about the movie. Its been done too many times and I agree this is F@#$%ing stupid. If you can make Transformers 3 come out on 3D blu ray after its theater release then you can do the same for GI Joe. I think if we complain loud enough Paramount will stick to their scheduling or move GI Joe a little further into the summer. I mean if we can have a say in Spider-Man 3 about casting (even though Sam Raimi screwed it up) then Paramount should hear us out.
I saw the trailer. I didn't really hear the Latin accent but I guess they are going to play off that Bane has been in the dark too long and that would explain his pale complexion. As for Catwoman, I suppose my speculation was a bit off. Catwoman could just be Selina Kyle. Seeing her get up without the cat ears and riding the batpod lead me to believe she was Talia and using Batman's tech against him and Marion Cotrallard's character was Nyssa Raatko. The formula would make sense though. One sister is loving toward Bruce and the other sister could pretend to love Bruce and throw him off her track while she manipulates things behind his back. I think we all can agree that Marion's character is not original its just an alias for one of Ra's daughters and she gives Bane whatever Wayne Tech he needs to bring Gotham down for good. The only thing I am curious about is what could Catwoman have on Bane that could damage his plans to bring down Gotham. Catwoman doesn't frighten easily unless someone in her social circle is threatened. That's another reason why I think Catwoman is Talia because Talia never agreed with her father's views so Talia could have adopted a Robin Hood persona to rob from the rich and corrupt and give back to the destitute rather than tearing down a city plus Bane frightens Talia even though they have shared some intimate scenes together.
I see Entropy Aegis has made another nemesis. I hope Muy Jingo is right about this new version of Bane because if he doesn't sound Caribbean or at least South American than I will be sorely disappointed. Bane's origin in Santa Prisca was pivotal and crucial to his upbringing. As for Batman Inc. I have become more interested now that Talia is the supposed villain for this new story arc. Talia is no doubt being manipulated by someone. Most likely its Nyssa Raatko because having the transgender mentality of Ra's al Ghul for Talia like it was in Batman Beyond kinda disappointed me but I did love Bruce's witty retorts to the Ra's controlled Talia like saying he hits like a girl.
I was talking to Icarusfiles about something me and my sister were discussing. My sister had a rough patch but she just met someone new and a really nice guy. However, she has this mentality that this guy made be too good to be true. I tell her that "All men are like dogs, it just depends if we are loyal or if we will bite." Kinda reminds me of Spidey and Mary Jane when they reversed their relationship by making a deal with Mephisto. Spidey had a really good thing going for him. He finally had the girl of his dreams, they were married but then he throws it all away, betrays MJ's trust just to spice up his life and have a "Brand New Day." One of the many things that I have learned in life is "When making a deal with the devil, you must remember the first rule and that is: Don't."
I agree with Redheaded Atrocitus. A story becomes interesting when the good guys lose some crucial battles and often suffer casualties. However, the concept of having a good guy coming out on top works because its a formula. The bad guy stands triumphant thinking he or she is untouchable and they always underestimate their fallen adversary. That's when the heroes making a stirring comeback. Let's face it, if evil were to win, everything would be chaos, there would be no point to anything, no reason to fight. When good wins, we can rest peacefully every night, we can sip our favorite cool drink and best of all we live to fight evil another day. But I think we all can agree that evil has style and they have the best banter in any story.
Marvel Knights vs The Teen Titans Spider-Mann meets Daredevil on the rooftop of Murdock’s apartment. Spidey: So Matt, you mind telling me why I missed a date with Mary Jane. Matt was about to answer until Captain America appears. He jumps from an adjacent building. Cap: I was wondering that myself Daredevil: I got a call from a mutual friend who needs our help but maybe Marc can elaborate. Daredevil turns to a dark corner of rooftop and Moon Knight appears from the shadows. Moon Knight: I had Daredevil call you all hear because there is something catastrophic that is about to happen. Spidey: I know you’re an expert in the supernatural but maybe you could be a little less cryptic. All of a sudden, Ghost Rider appears in blazing trail of fire. Ghost Rider: All hell is going to break loose. Moon Knight: Ghost Rider has been monitoring Dr. Doom’s movements. Doom intends to enter the fiery underworld. Spidey laughs it up. Spidey: Doom wants to go to Hell. Maybe the guy has a death wish then again his motives have never been that simplistic. Cap poses his question to Moon Knight: What exactly do think Doom intends do once he enters? Moon Knight: According to Ghost Rider, the realms of heaven and hell are all the same in any reality. Ghost Rider: Names may differ but Lucifer or the Morning Star will always be the ruler of hell and God will always be the Presence in Heaven. Moon Knight: If Doom were to gain access into the underworld he could find routes to alternate realities, amass armies beyond comprehension and conquer all. Ghost Rider: Has been in contact with a creature named Trigon who has a daughter that can bridge the gaps between the realities. Trigon must rely on Doom because his own deviant sons betrayed him and left him in a weaken state. Trigon has agreed to enter a binding pact with Doom. Doom and Trigon will merge as one being in order to make them powerful enough to manipulate Trigon’s daughter. Spidey: This is a lot to take in but I’m all for saving the universe and handing Doom his walking papers. Cap: As am I. Daredevil: So am I but where do we start? Moon Knight: Doom is heading to Stonehenge. Ghost Rider figures that that is the perfect place for Doom to establish a dimensional rift device of his own design. The device will enable Trigon to pull Doom through hell without being trapped and bring him into Trigon’s reality. Cap: Then what are we waiting for? Meanwhile at Titan Tower, Starfire enters Raven’s room. Starfire has a bouquet of flowers that was sent by Beast Boy. Raven is fast asleep so Starfire puts the flowers near her bedside. Robin (Tim Drake) enters the room quietly. Robin: Star, can I speak to you for a second? Starfire nods and leaves Raven’s room with Robin. Robin confronts Starfire in the rec room. Robin: Look I know you like me but I think it’s because you can’t get over the fact that I remind you of Dick. I appreciate the affection but I just can’t do this and I don’t want you to get hurt. Starfire: To be honest, I like the whole new Robin get up but you reminding of Dick is not the reason why I have been feeling this way about you. I’m sure you are aware that Tamaranians are a spirited race and we don’t usually follow certain conventions of society. For instance, being with one partner at one time. Starfire begins to grope and straddle along Tim’s body. Robin: Star don’t do this, I… Starfire reels her head closer to Tim’s ear and whispers: Red Robin…yum! Robin could no longer restrain himself as he and Starfire begin to engage in each other in the rec room while Raven begins to twist and turn in her bed. The flowers that were supposedly sent by Beast Boy was actually sent by Poison Ivy. Ivy has been sprouting flowers her flowers around Titan Tower and knew Starfire would tend to them. The pheromones in the flowers have encouraged to Starfire to pursue Robin. Ivy wants the two lead Titans distracted while she manipulates Raven through her dreams. In Raven’s dreams, Raven has been speaking with someone who has transcended the plain of physical existence and now his consciousness has become more dominant in the astral plain. Raven has come to know this consciousness as Rorschach. Raven: These nightmares are getting worse Rorschach. My father is weak but his hold over me is stronger than ever. Rorschach: That’s because he has joined up with someone from another reality. An elitist/ scientist who calls himself Dr. Doom. Raven: I’m well aware that all metaphysical plains share a common link even though alternate realities have created differentiations but how exactly did my father establish a correspondence with someone like Doom? My father uses outsiders to his benefit but he would never side with anyone. Rorschach: Let’s just say a really bad guy from my own reality made their partnership possible. His name is Ozymandias. From where I come from, heroes are outlawed and the world was nearing the edge of destruction until Ozymandias caused the deaths of countless millions. Ozy pinned the genocide on Dr. Manhattan, a former Watchman like myself. I thought my teammates would back me up and expose Ozy for the crime he had just committed. Instead like diluted fools, they were willing to make compromises. I refused to keep my mouth shut and Manhattan took it upon himself to silence me. However, I had a backup in case I didn’t make it back. My journal depicted Ozy’s entire plan and I dropped my journal off at a local bugle. The bugle published my journal and even though Ozy tried to scrutinize the bugle’s integrity, people began to wonder and question. Raven: So you encouraged a new form of chaos? Rorschach: Chaos and order is a matter of choice. As much I pity the human race, I cannot ignore their cries for help. After Ozy was exposed for what he had done, he went underground and now the smartest but most dangerous man in the world can reach anyone in the astral plain which includes you. Raven: Ozymandias intends to use me as a bridge between the realities. Is that it? He can’t possibly trust Doom or my father. Rorschach: Both Ozy and I are pragmatists as well as sore losers. Even though I was one step behind him, I played my move and won. Ozy on the other hand, wasn’t going to take this lying down. He calculates that if Doom and Trigon merge as one being then they can encourage the darker side in you thereby unleashing your true power. Raven: A merger between my father and this man can never truly be possible. Rorschach: That’s what I am counting on. Rorschach’s astral form begins to fade away and Ozymandias makes his presence known Ozymandias: You’re right, the merger between your father and Doom will prove to be most fatal for the both of them. Imagine two of the most powerful yet chaotic psyches fighting for control over one body. They will destroy each other but not until they harness your power to suit my needs. Raven: And that would be? Ozymandias: My need to spread peace has gone from global to universal. The bridge you will create between the worlds will unleash unimaginable destruction but from the chaos, my loving hand will reach out to countless lives. Of course, neither you nor my confederates will be around long enough to do anything about it. On Earth 616, the Marvel Knights reach Stonehenge and do battle with Doom’s Doombots. Daredevil approaches Doom before the rift is completely opened. Daredevil: Victor, don’t do this. I know what it’s like to be possessed by a demon. I was lucky enough to walk away from it. Doom: Because you were afraid of unlocking your true potential. I embrace my newfound destiny without fear, you should have done the same. Doom uses an array of energy discharges to expel Daredevil from the rift. Unfortunately, Doom opens the dimensional rift into hell and Trigon’s hand carries Doom through the rift. Ghost Rider uses his chain to spin a fiery tornado in order to create a barrier between the Marvel Knights and the remaining Doombots. The Marvel Knights make their way through the rift as Ghost Rider shouts: Hold on boys, we are on the highway to hell. On New Earth, Raven begins to feel her father’s presence and her darker side begins to take hold. Raven tells Ozy: I won’t let you or anyone use me again. Ozy: I’m afraid you have no say in the matter. Your father acquired Poison Ivy’s services. Her floral abilities have enabled her to create a toxin that can lower your cerebral defenses making you more vulnerable to influence. Your mind and body will be so weak from fighting off your father’s thrall that you will be helpless to stop the inevitable. Raven begins to mutate into her darker form as her father and Doom merge into one. Meanwhile, the Marvel Knights suddenly appear in the rec room which interrupts Robin and Starfire. Despite their lack of clothing, Robin and Starfire jump into action thinking the Marvel Knights are enemies. Cap gets between the heroes and tells the Titans: We are not your enemies we have come stop someone from our reality who has partnered with Trigon. Both Robin and Starfire lower their defenses and stare at each other for a brief moment until they hear Raven screaming. The Marvel Knights and Titans run to Raven’s room. Raven has already escaped the confines of the tower by making a hole in the roof of tower which leads outside. Robin looks to others and says: We have to save her. Spidey replies: You might wanna put something on before you go out to save the universe. The Titans are left behind to get dressed while the Marvel Knights intercede. They find Raven standing above the water in Gotham Bay just outside of Titan Tower. Suddenly, Raven ascends to the skies and opens a portal revealing the new Dr. Doom/ Trigon and an astral form of Ozymandias. Ozy looks to his fellow compatriots and says: Gentlemen, we are now truly the Unholy Trinity. Trigon, the accursed father, Dr. Doom, a wayward son and Ozymandias… Trigon/ Doom interrupts: a deviant spirit. Ozymandias pauses for a moment and continues his speech: Together, we will bring order not just to this reality but to all worlds. Our omnipotent dominion will stretch across the universe and no one can stop us. Poison Ivy rises from the ground in anger and demands: I want what was promised to me, Trigon. You promised to wipe humanity off the face of the Earth in exchange I would establish my rule over the world. Trigon/ Doom laughs off his deal with Ivy and raises his hand. Trigon/ Doom summons demons from the underworld. The Marvel Knights and Titans join forces with Ivy in order to save Raven from opening a bridge between all worlds and to stop the Unholy Trinity. None of the heroes are able to get close or reach out to Raven. Fortunately, the real Rorschach has been looking out for Raven. Rorschach: Raven, I know you are in there. You have faced tougher odds than this. Come on, girl wake up. Raven’s astral form is unresponsive until Rorschach merges with Raven’s consciousness to enhance her mental stability. In the outside world, Raven begins to scream uncontrollably then she vanishes until there is nothing left but a white rift in time and space. Ozy gloats: It has begun Starfire and Robin scream: Raven! The Titans feel the loss of their friend but now all the more determined to end the Unholy Trinity. The demons continue to outflank the heroes despite their perseverance. Suddenly, Ozymandias begins to lose his concentration over his astral form. Ozy then screams: No, it’s not possible. Suddenly, Raven appears with Ozymandias physically in her grasp. Raven tells her father: Father, give up this assault for you have been deceived. Ozymandias used you and Doom to manipulate me. He was also counting on you and Doom to destroy yourselves since neither of you are big on sharing power. Trigon/ Doom scoff Raven’s explanation and inform her: Together, our power is infinite. Why would we destroy each other when we can benefit so much more from this union? The battle ensues. Ozymandias realizes his plan is ruined so he decides to end Raven. He reaches for his knife and stabs Raven in the leg. Both Raven and Ozy fall to the ground. As Raven tries to pull out the knife, Ozy makes his way to end Raven. Raven uses her shadow force power to create a physical construct of Rorschach. Rorschach combats Ozymandias and wins since Ozy can’t inflict any harm on a construct. As Ozy laid on the ground unconscious, Ghost Rider calls out to Raven and tells her: Only you and I can put this monster to rest. Raven agrees and channels her abilities to build or dissect energy through Ghost Rider’s chain. Together, Raven and Ghost Rider are able to separate Doom from Trigon. Raven and Starfire use the full extent of their power to send Trigon through the white rift along with his minions. Robin and the Marvel Knights with the exception of Ghost Rider contend with a belligerent Doom. Their combined force causes to Doom to fall to his knees in defeat. As for Ozymandias, Rorschach holds up Ozy as Ghost Rider approached. Ghost Rider stares into Ozy’s eyes and says: Your soul has been stained by the blood of the innocent. Look into my eyes and feel their pain. Ghost Rider uses his Penance Stare on Ozymandias and Ozy goes mad as he screams in terror. In the end, Ozy is left catatonic. The Titans thank Ivy even though she was a reluctant heroine. Ivy leaves but not before telling Robin and Starfire the truth about their infatuation. She also apologizes to Raven for her involvement with Trigon. The Marvel Knights bid farewell to the Titans. Raven opens the portal to Earth 616 and the Marvel Knights drag Doom back to face up for his crimes. Robin confronts Starfire: So I guess everything was a lie Starfire: Don’t say that, please. Raven: For what it’s worth, you two make a great couple. Robin: Thanks Raven but I can’t fall in love with a lie. Starfire: What you and I shared wasn’t a lie, you wanted this just as much as I did. You just can’t own up to it. Just like your mentor, you are afraid of commitment. Robin: I thought you Tamaranians were free spirits. Are you telling me you would be willing to compromise your heritage for me? Starfire: Maybe once but you are too stupid to understand that. Starfire makes her exit. Raven calls out to Starfire: Star, please don’t go. Starfire: I’m sorry Raven but I need to find my own place in the world and it’s not here in Gotham. I have outgrown my stay at the tower. I can’t ignore who I am. I am a free. I am not bound by the laws of humans which I guess makes me not a hero but an outlaw. Goodbye. Raven descends to talk to Robin Raven: What will happen to Ozymandias? Robin: Arkham most likely. What happened to Rorschach? Raven: He is at peace knowing Ozymandias can no longer hurt another living soul. Robin: Then all is right with the universe. Raven: For now.