Is it time for a new villain in the X-Men universe?

Over the years, the X-Men have faced many villains that threatened harm on humanity.   Some of the villains that the X-Men have faced over the years became legendary in the X-Men mythos and they included Magneto, the Hellfire Club, Mr. Sinister and many, many more!   Currently however, it seems that most of the X-villains are siding with the X-Men and most of the villains nowadays that the X-Men face are basically alternate versions of older villain groups.   
 

Recently, most of the newer villains that the X-Men have faced were mainly alternate versions of the older villain groups.   Some popular examples of this were the Sisterhood of Mutants which was led by Madeline Pryor and it mirrors the Brotherhood of Mutants and most recently, the Hellfire Club kids which mirrors the original Hellfire Club, but is mainly composed of kids.   Even though they were threats to the X-Men, it seems like their goals are sort of one sided and they were just there to cause trouble for the X-Men.
 

Probably the X-Men’s greatest enemy of all time was Magneto.   Magneto was not only the X-Men’s greatest foe because he caused mass destruction everywhere he goes, but he was against Professor Xavier’s dream of bringing mutants and humans together.   The goal of the X-Men was that they fight any kind of threats that threatens humanity and try to prove to the human population that they are the good guys.   Magneto however, always believed that mutants were far superior to humans and he believed that the human race should be eliminated.   Also, his back story on his experiences during the Holocaust clearly defined his character and his beliefs about mutants being more superior to humans.   Since then, Magneto has always gave the X-Men a hard time, until recently when he joined Cyclops’ team in fighting threats against the mutant population.
 


 

Recently however, Mr. Sinister has come back and gave the X-Men a hard time; however, Mr. Sinister was an older villain who was a threat to the X-Men before in the past.   So, is it time now to have a newer villain who was never thought of before to come and attack the X-Men?

I personally think that the X-Men need a newer villain to challenge them since the majority of the best villains are now working with the X-Men. Also, I think a new villain would be better suited for the current situation that the X-Men are now facing since now the X-Men has to deal with the mutant population dwindling due to the events of “House of M.”   There needs to be a villain who wants to destroy the mutant race and who has convincing motives for doing so, such as the new villain loathes the mutant race because maybe the villain is a mutant and he or she hated the way that he or she was treated because of that.   Or, the new villain could be like William Stryker, who was also another memorable villain, meaning that the villain could be a human being (even though I really want the X-Men to have more human allies in the future) who wants to take advantage of the mutants’ current situation and destroy the entire race by creating a virus or something like that to kill them. Villains like Magneto were memorable in the X-Men universe because they went against what the heroes believed in and at the time that Magneto was the villain, he was against the idea of humans and mutants coexisting with each other which was what Professor Xavier wanted.   The newer villains need a purpose to go against what the X-Men are trying to do right now and that is saving the mutant race from extinction.

 So what do you think? Do you think that the X-Men need a new and original villain to go against what they are trying to do right now or are you satisfied with the current villains they have now?

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Edited by lorex

Hell yes it is time for a new villian. Don't get me wrong I like Sinister and thought the story in Uncanny is good so far. But the tween version of the Hellfire Club really annoys me. I just cant see them as a major threat, I keep waiting for an adult like Shaw, Selene or someone else  to come put them to bed and take over. Maybe its just that most of the young X-Men have been pushed asside over the last few years and now we are suppost to take children seriously as a major villian. Now that being said the X-Men need some new blood in terms of the villians  they face. Problem is as long as the X-Men have been around they have faced almost every kind of adversary from mutant hating humans, rival mutants, corporate interest, corrupt government officals, crazy religions, dimensional travlers and aliens. Its takes some creativity to come up with a good villian to challenge the X-Men without having to retcon something so it fits into their history. Given the relatively poor guality of X-Men books in general over the last few years I am afraid any new villian created will just be as bad the junor Hellfire Club. Heres hoping  someone will bring their 'A' game if they try to create a major new villian for the X-Men.

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@lorex said:
Hell yes it is time for a new villian. Don't get me wrong I like Sinister and thought the story in Uncanny is good so far. But the tween version of the Hellfire Club really annoys me. I just cant see them as a major threat, I keep waiting for an adult like Shaw, Selene or someone else  to come put them to bed and take over. Maybe its just that most of the young X-Men have been pushed asside over the last few years and now we are suppost to take children seriously as a major villian. Now that being said the X-Men need some new blood in terms of the villians  they face. Problem is as long as the X-Men have been around they have faced almost every kind of adversary from mutant hating humans, rival mutants, corporate interest, corrupt government officals, crazy religions, dimensional travlers and aliens. Its takes some creativity to come up with a good villian to challenge the X-Men without having to retcon something so it fits into their history. Given the relatively poor guality of X-Men books in general over the last few years I am afraid any new villian created will just be as bad the junor Hellfire Club. Heres hoping  someone will bring their 'A' game if they try to create a major new villian for the X-Men.
I definitely agree with this! I never liked the idea about the Hellfire Club kids and I don't know why Marvel went along with this.  I also think that even though there is an opportunity here that we could have a new villain, that villain probably wouldn't be written well due to the direction the X-books are heading these days.
Posted by CATPANEXE

I wonder more if there's a reason new villain's don't have staying power in the mutant world. I thought about your thread and I can't say there's ever been a lack of new villains introduced in the X-books. Working backwards, sort of, from now along a few: The new Horsemen (UXF), Legions identities particularly Styx, The Friendless, The Scorpius, Lobe, Sublime, Sublime Corp, The Evolutionaries, Daken, Romulus, The Red Right Hand, Lord Deathstrike, Danger (introduced a villain), The Purifiers, Dark Beast, Sugar Man, The Orphan Maker, Gene Nation, Emplate, The Neo, The Children Of The Vault, Onslaught, Tyler Dayspring, The Dark Riders, Martinique and Regan, The Isolationalist, Pandemic, Cassandra Nova, Vulcan, Predator X, X-Cutioner, Cerebro's X-Men, Project Purgatory, Witchfire, Xarus, Ord, Kruun, Bastion, Dr.Rot, Cortex, ect, ect...I could go with this endlessly. The point is they are consistently revealing new villains. The problem is A.) The turn them into X-men right away but more B.) The writers don't give villains that came into being after the classic ages the same respect, attention and character development as they do hero characters, and quickly turn back to reviving a classic villain or having a hero change sides.

Posted by Jubilantlad

I think it'd be good, seeing as how most of the mutant villains were depowered and the X-Men mainly face humans now as enemies.

Edited by Rabbitearsblog
@CATPANEXE said:

I wonder more if there's a reason new villain's don't have staying power in the mutant world. I thought about your thread and I can't say there's ever been a lack of new villains introduced in the X-books. Working backwards, sort of, from now along a few: The new Horsemen (UXF), Legions identities particularly Styx, The Friendless, The Scorpius, Lobe, Sublime, Sublime Corp, The Evolutionaries, Daken, Romulus, The Red Right Hand, Lord Deathstrike, Danger (introduced a villain), The Purifiers, Dark Beast, Sugar Man, The Orphan Maker, Gene Nation, Emplate, The Neo, The Children Of The Vault, Onslaught, Tyler Dayspring, The Dark Riders, Martinique and Regan, The Isolationalist, Pandemic, Cassandra Nova, Vulcan, Predator X, X-Cutioner, Cerebro's X-Men, Project Purgatory, Witchfire, Xarus, Ord, Kruun, Bastion, Dr.Rot, Cortex, ect, ect...I could go with this endlessly. The point is they are consistently revealing new villains. The problem is A.) The turn them into X-men right away but more B.) The writers don't give villains that came into being after the classic ages the same respect, attention and character development as they do hero characters, and quickly turn back to reviving a classic villain or having a hero change sides.

Now that you mentioned it, there has been a lot of newer villains, but it sort of feels like they are nonexistent because like you said, the writers never really developed them as characters or even respected them like they did Magneto and Mystique.  I also don't like the way that the newer villains rarely get any screentime except in like one issue and then the next issue, they vanished without a trace.  I would have like to learn more about Vulcan, Cortex, Ord, Dark Beast and many others that were introduced, because they seem like interesting villains, but they never really got developed beyond the first issue and hopefully, if there is a new villain in the X-Men universe, then the writers could at least try to focus more on the new villains and let them stay on for a few more issues.
Posted by jubilee042

I HATE the new kid version of the hellfire club and i think they have alot of villians that need character development ASAP

Posted by HotSauceCommittee

Wouldn't mind seeing that dude from the 198 return as a major villian, Mr M was it?

Posted by chalkshark

@CATPANEXE: This is a common situation you see with writers coming onto new books. They basically have two agendas. First, they want to tell their stories featuring their favorite villains. Second, they want to create their own villains. Generally speaking, unless the new villain just catches fire with the audience, and the writers, you're probably not going to see them very much. This is why every writer on Batman tells a Joker story, but rarely bothers with one featuring Dr. Phosphorus. You do get the occasional break out new villain, like Venom or Hush, who start featuring regularly, but most new villains fall by the wayside very quickly. One need only look to Spider-Man for confirmation. After "Brand New Day", editorial instructed the Spider-Man writers to create a host of new adversaries for the webslinger, & put a moratorium on using his classic foes for at least a year. Flash forward to today. Spider-Man is once again gearing up to take on the Sinister Six. He just finished a two part fight with the Vulture. The Jackal factored heavily in "Spider Island". Kraven the Hunter was resurrected. All those new villains that were supposed to become regulars have been pushed aside in favor of the classic Spidey villains. Short of an editorial mandate forcing writers to push new villains, they will always resort to their classic favorites.

Edited by Amanthine

@jubilee042 said:

I HATE the new kid version of the hellfire club and i think they have alot of villians that need character development ASAP

Yeah... The kids are punks. I want to put them in a straight, just barely wide enough hallway with Colossus and have him just run them through.

I just hope that one, Sebastian doesn't become a good guy after being found my Hope, and two, that Hope doesn't become Dark Phoenix and the new main villain for the X-Men. I'm tired of Phoenixes. I hope Sebastian remembers who he is and starts tearing things up within Utopia.

Posted by AgeofHurricane

No, the Hellfire kids are the best thing that happened to the X-Men in years, anything otherwise would be the next stereotypical "I hate mutant's, they must be destroyed at all costs !" villain and it's already getting boring. I for one do not want another fool with the same agenda to come a long and request war which will the lead to another Second Coming, it's quite pointless and not needed. The X-Men ATM need a rest from all that crap. (Which is obviously why we're going to have AvX LOL.)

Posted by Nightcrawler23

New characters aren't as welcomed as they used to be. Back in the 60's, 70's, and maybe 80's and 90's, new characters could be introduced, and may eventually become icons. Now, there is little hope for any of them. Strangely, a new character that does have hope, is named hope. But they centered four years of stories around her.

Posted by WarMachineMarkV

- The X-Men, like any successful comic needs to have new advesaries brought in over time to keep things from getting stale, and to keep the existing ones from being overused to the point of fans tiring of them.

- The problem is the writers have converted or killed off many of the classic villains, and replaced them by new and revamped ones that were for the most part disappointing to terrible. Many of the recent creations have been one and done villains rarely seen again and given little to no development.

- Was the Hellfire Club a tired concept in need of change, absolutely. Is the Kid Hellfire Club better than the status quo? I would say hell no and from what I have seen on the boards many would agree.

- How many people like Sinister better now that he's a homicidal David Bowie?

- They need to have a less is more approach, create less new or revamped villlains and spend the time and resources to make sure its the best they have to offer and give them all enough screen time to make an impression.

Posted by Nudeviking

@jubilee042 said:

I HATE the new kid version of the hellfire club and i think they have alot of villians that need character development ASAP

I really don't understand why they made those kids the "Hellfire Club." There was really no reason to attach them to an older, classic set of villains. I don't have a problem with those characters, but why couldn't they have had a different name. I think if a writer wants to make a new villain, they should really make a new villain. There's really no reason to tie him or her to some existing character. Kid Hellfire Club would be just as effective as enemies if they were called The Douchelord Supremes or some other more terrifying name.

Posted by jrock85

@WarMachineMarkV said:

- The X-Men, like any successful comic needs to have new advesaries brought in over time to keep things from getting stale, and to keep the existing ones from being overused to the point of fans tiring of them.

- The problem is the writers have converted or killed off many of the classic villains, and replaced them by new and revamped ones that were for the most part disappointing to terrible. Many of the recent creations have been one and done villains rarely seen again and given little to no development.

- Was the Hellfire Club a tired concept in need of change, absolutely. Is the Kid Hellfire Club better than the status quo? I would say hell no and from what I have seen on the boards many would agree.

- How many people like Sinister better now that he's a homicidal David Bowie?

- They need to have a less is more approach, create less new or revamped villlains and spend the time and resources to make sure its the best they have to offer and give them all enough screen time to make an impression.

Well said.

Posted by CATPANEXE

sigh.

I'm telling you if signatures are implicated mine will be " Why do I bother? " just so I don't feel compelled to post it 9 out of 10 times after I post anything.

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The Hellfire kids, or specifically Kade for anyone who doesn't know yet is actually the original unused concept for Mr.Sinister. Personally I think it's poorly played. I'm hoping something

comes up eventually where all is not what it seems with that character.

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@WarMachineMarkV said:

- The X-Men, like any successful comic needs to have new advesaries brought in over time to keep things from getting stale, and to keep the existing ones from being overused to the point of fans tiring of them.

- The problem is the writers have converted or killed off many of the classic villains, and replaced them by new and revamped ones that were for the most part disappointing to terrible. Many of the recent creations have been one and done villains rarely seen again and given little to no development.

- Was the Hellfire Club a tired concept in need of change, absolutely. Is the Kid Hellfire Club better than the status quo? I would say hell no and from what I have seen on the boards many would agree.

- How many people like Sinister better now that he's a homicidal David Bowie?

- They need to have a less is more approach, create less new or revamped villlains and spend the time and resources to make sure its the best they have to offer and give them all enough screen time to make an impression.

 I definitely agree with everything you said!  I wish the writers would spend more time on the villains they just recently introduced and give them more development before they move on to another new villain.
Posted by Silver_Raven

It really is a shame that the X-men villains has been so underwhelming over the past few years. The best villains always were human supremesists or rogue mutants gone bad. But if they haven't died, or been overused and lost their lethal appeal, then they have been reformed into heroes. So i propose the X-men switch adversaries with the Avengers and take on characters like Dr. Doom or Ultron and the Avengers deal with the likes of the Hellfire Club or Marauders.

As for original villains for the X-men, i think after mutants are reborn and new character are created we might see new mutant threats arise like the Mutant Liberation Front again or the Reavers made up of depowered mutants. And I always thought that the X-men should be fighting gods and demons more. So there are tons of mythologies to pluck a good villain from or create a team of devils to try to challenge the power of the Uncanny X-men.

Selene if written right and with a lot more respect for the powers she possess would be a great villain but she's still treated as third or fourth tier threat. She is possibly the oldest mutant one Earth and supremely powerful sorceress yet she can be taken out by X-Force. WTF! What a waste of a character for that useless Necrosha story.

Posted by Girth

@Silver_Raven said:

Selene if written right and with a lot more respect for the powers she possess would be a great villain but she's still treated as third or fourth tier threat. She is possibly the oldest mutant one Earth and supremely powerful sorceress yet she can be taken out by X-Force. WTF! What a waste of a character for that useless Necrosha story.

It is the same thing with Apocalypse. It used to take the entire X-men team to deal with him, and now he has been reduced to X-force which is only a five person team.

Posted by Renchamp

I love the hate on X-Force. You realize that these are mutants with dead souls and don't mind doing what other super-teams can't, right? So, X-Force can defeat these mega villains because they have the gonads to do so.

Besides that, I'm all for a new villain, just not for the sake of having a new villain. That's why most of them fail. I'd like to see a character we know already slowly get turned. That would ensure emotional attachment by readers. This sort of happened with Archangel, but I'd like a permanent thing to go on.

(And a virus that kills mutants has been done, but I'm certainly open for other threats.)

Posted by Powerzone789

the new hellfire club has got to be the lamest thing ever, although i do enjoy sinister being back, vulcan should come back, since blackbolt survived,

Posted by King Quisling

Brand new villains are set to premiere in this week's Uncanny

Posted by PrinceIMC

I want Exodus back.

Posted by MyraMyraMyra

Yes, there's definitely need for a new interesting and original villain, or a villain team. It's true that the writers are technically introducing new villains all the time, but the problem is that they're mainly just reusing old concepts (like the Hellfire club), which is why the newer villains are hardly memorable. What the franchise really needs is an entirely new kind of new threat for the mutants to battle, as in a type of character or characters with agendas they haven't dealt with before.

Edited by TheWholeDamnShow

The Phoenix needs to return.

EDIT: War, Famine, and all the others were pretty cool villains. My favorite was the drummer dude.

Posted by Shamelesslysupportinaznballers

I don't care for new villains, just give me cool stories and if it features somebody new than cool, if it features sinister again than heck yea. I mean if new villans are these Hellfire kids than please just make Magneto evil again or age Genesis a couple of years so he can turn into the big A.

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@MyraMyraMyra said:

Yes, there's definitely need for a new interesting and original villain, or a villain team. It's true that the writers are technically introducing new villains all the time, but the problem is that they're mainly just reusing old concepts (like the Hellfire club), which is why the newer villains are hardly memorable. What the franchise really needs is an entirely new kind of new threat for the mutants to battle, as in a type of character or characters with agendas they haven't dealt with before.

I definitely agree with this! I think that the X-Men should have a villain who wants to destroy the mutant race since that's the situation right now and while it's great having Mr. Sinister back, I want a totally new villain who has never been thought of before.  I also agree that they should just stop re using older concepts and do something original with the villains.
Posted by KDarkholme

They def need new villians, I am sooo tired of Sinister and the new Hellfire Club has to be a joke.

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@KDarkholme: Yeah, I don't know why the Hellfire Club kids was even though of. It just seems so odd that the X-Men would be beaten by some kids.
Edited by Soulstealer

Personally I like the Children of the Vault. I dig them as a concept, even if the execution wasn't everything I'd ever want. I dig their attitude as a group, especially seeing as they don't hate mutants. Or humans for that matter.To paraphrase Cyke they simply want the lesser races to "Get off their lawn."

Also while the concept of technology and genetics combining to make them more than either homo superior or homo sapiens is not new as a thing, they pulled it off surprisingly well in some spots. I'd like to see them with some stronger stories and members, but they were an interesting read in my opinion.

To answer the question at hand though I think the answer is actually yes and no. New villains aren't a bad thing, but they need to be handled a bit differently than they are.

Posted by Steps

I don't mind the new Hellfire Club, I mean sure they're all kids but something else has to be pulling the strings to give most of them the skills, knowledge they needed to be who they are. Plus the writers were successful in how they wanted me to feel about them, hate.

Posted by maikkywin

Put Skyler (Who doesn't go good guy) into the marvel universe .

Do it .

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@Soulstealer said:

To answer the question at hand though I think the answer is actually yes and no. New villains aren't a bad thing, but they need to be handled a bit differently than they are.

I definitely agree with this. The writers need to start taking the newer villains more seriously and actually expand more on their backgrounds instead of introducing them in one issue and then throw them away the next issue.
Posted by jhazzroucher

Put back Apocalypse first. make him a majr villain again, and then after that, they can make a new powerful villain for the x-men

Posted by WarMachineMarkV

@jhazzroucher said:

Put back Apocalypse first. make him a majr villain again, and then after that, they can make a new powerful villain for the x-men

- Apocalypse should only be seen once a decade by the X-Men and the event should be of an epic scale, like many he has been neutered for no good reason I can see

- He is the X-Men's Kang or Ultron, the villain everyone says "oh shit" when he shows up

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@jhazzroucher said:

Put back Apocalypse first. make him a majr villain again, and then after that, they can make a new powerful villain for the x-men

I would definitely want Apocalypse to be a villain again. He was such a brilliant villain next to Magneto.
Posted by John Valentine

@jhazzroucher said:

Put back Apocalypse first. make him a majr villain again, and then after that, they can make a new powerful villain for the x-men

Just been done via Archangel.

Posted by lykopis

@Soulstealer said:

Personally I like the Children of the Vault. I dig them as a concept, even if the execution wasn't everything I'd ever want. I dig their attitude as a group, especially seeing as they don't hate mutants. Or humans for that matter.To paraphrase Cyke the simply want the lesser races to "Get off their lawn."

Also while the concept of technology and genetics combining to make them more than either homo superior or homo sapiens is not new as a thing, they pulled it off surprisingly well in some spots. I'd like to see them with some stronger stories and members, but they were an interesting read in my opinion.

To answer the question at hand though I think the answer is actually yes and no. New villains aren't a bad thing, but they need to be handled a bit differently than they are.

This would be wonderful! Lots of room for exploration there - I have a little soft spot for one of them too.

Posted by DarkChris

I believe X-Men need the classic villains, like Brotherhood, Sinister, Apocalypse, Acolytes etc. Of course, they need to be relaunched and have some new motives. Like Sinister.

Magneto couldn't be a villain with this situation. The key-word is motive. He fought for the superiority of the mutants. Now they need to survive. Thus, as long as mutants are in the brink of existence, Mags will be with the X-Men. Essesiantly, they want the same thing.

Also, they need to fight more teams. Make a new Brotherhood. Mystique, Sabretooth, Joseph, Toad, Astra, Kenji and some new mutants.

Make Apocalypse and the 4 Horsemen a real threat. Archangel is good, but I prefer the original stuff. Bring back the *real* Apocalypse not a copy of him. Of course, give him some true Horsemen from characters we know. Like Dark Beast and Gamit.

Sinister is back. He has a great look, he is deadlier than ever and with a right motive.

They should bring in the forefront the Children of the Vault. With a writer like Gillen, or Aaron, or even Liu, they could be a powerful villain team.

Last but not least, I love all these people and their groups who want to kill all the mutants. I want my Stryker fix! Exodus! Human Liberation Front. Now, more than ever, it's only logical that all these people would make everything to exterminate mutants (because they haven't remained many).

Posted by luckydomino1

i would have to agree with you on that we need some new villian dont know what his motifs would be but some new villian how about a mutant hunter he goes after the big shots in the xmen crew he hunts mutants because of his bad past and ironically hes one himself he later develops a crew to help him because even though he gave the x team a run for their money taking out two before fleeing he cant do it by himeself

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@luckydomino1 said:

i would have to agree with you on that we need some new villian dont know what his motifs would be but some new villian how about a mutant hunter he goes after the big shots in the xmen crew he hunts mutants because of his bad past and ironically hes one himself he later develops a crew to help him because even though he gave the x team a run for their money taking out two before fleeing he cant do it by himeself

I like the idea about a mutant hunter, especially with the situation right now.
Posted by Skaddix

Of course we need new bad guys. The only traditional foes still active are Sinister, Mystique and Sabretooth. Most of the real threats like Shaw, Magento, Frost are now good guys. The rest are dead. So yes a dire need.

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@Skaddix said:

Of course we need new bad guys. The only traditional foes still active are Sinister, Mystique and Sabretooth. Most of the real threats like Shaw, Magento, Frost are now good guys. The rest are dead. So yes a dire need.

Yeah, all the really good bad guys are now on the good side, so now we don't  have many big time threats other than Sinister.
Posted by Mutant God

well theres a chance Kid Omega and/or Zero could be big bads but only time will tell I guess

Posted by Skaddix

@Mutant God said:

well theres a chance Kid Omega and/or Zero could be big bads but only time will tell I guess

Nah as long As Aaron is writing Kid Omega is good guy thanks to that flash forward we got in the last issue of WATXM. Zero though would make a good foe especially if he takes Martha with him.

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@Mutant God: Hmm... I wonder what would happen with Kid Omega?
Posted by Mutant God
@Rabbitearsblog: I guess recreate the brotherhood or try to take over the Hellfire club
Posted by PhoenixoftheTides

I think the problems have been well-covered by the prior comments. I'd just add that once you build up an older villain into a big threat, and then have said villain beaten casually or indulge in schemes that aren't well written, they lose their sense of authority and danger. The same applies to good guys, esp. in the case of comic books since it is the villains that often give the superheroes a reason to exist so a good villain is often worth more than a bunch of heroes.

I'd also like to see the villains inflict real damage on heroes; as others have stated, you need to give villains a good background in order to make them either so evil that you love to hate them or so completely believable that you root for them because they have a point.

And any villain that can knock a few X-Men into the emergency wing deserves applause. There are a lot of them hanging around nowadays. It actually feels like a throwback to the first story after All New, All Different X-Men - "There are TOO MANY X-MEN!"

Posted by cattlebattle

The X-Men used to have one of the greatest rogues galleries in all of comics 
 
Now.....not so much 
 
They also tend to bring in new villains and never expand on them...........like remember Pandemic?? What the heck ever happened to that guy??

Posted by Rabbitearsblog
@PhoenixoftheTides said:

I think the problems have been well-covered by the prior comments. I'd just add that once you build up an older villain into a big threat, and then have said villain beaten casually or indulge in schemes that aren't well written, they lose their sense of authority and danger. The same applies to good guys, esp. in the case of comic books since it is the villains that often give the superheroes a reason to exist so a good villain is often worth more than a bunch of heroes.

I'd also like to see the villains inflict real damage on heroes; as others have stated, you need to give villains a good background in order to make them either so evil that you love to hate them or so completely believable that you root for them because they have a point.

And any villain that can knock a few X-Men into the emergency wing deserves applause. There are a lot of them hanging around nowadays. It actually feels like a throwback to the first story after All New, All Different X-Men - "There are TOO MANY X-MEN!"

I definitely agree with everything you said! I think that lately there hasn't been an actual villain who could beat the X-Men (although the Hellfire Kids did just that, but they are a bunch of kids, that beating the X-Men makes the X-Men look so bad) and none of the current villains the X-Men has faced don't really have any full fleshed out back stories that would make them believable.  There needs to be more information on the villains and they need to be more threatening than they are now.