Postacrat

Hancock easily, some of the people saying Thor are the same people you will see in a lot of threads claiming Thor can beat anybody especially SUPERMAN...The arguments have been made, Hancock is stronger, faster, more durable than Thor in his films. In truth I personally think he could beat his comic book counter part too...

@Vengance101 said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Vengance101 said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Kal'smahboi said:

@Vengance101 said:

@Kal'smahboi said:

We should wait for this battle until Summer 2013.

Why? we already see what they can do in their individual movies.

Because Supes will have a movie that really shows his ability after that.

didn't Superman have like 5 movies that showcase his most consistent abilities......and then some

Current supes loses

What do you mean by that?? Technically, current Supes is the dude in the new movie.

That's why the older supes were more powerful but were going by current incarnations.

Doesn't matter It's already been stated by the director and creator of Superman Returns that Brandon Routh's Superman is the same superman as Christopher Reeves Superman and that includes his power levels. The OP has said only feats in the 2000 films however, are we really going to act as if Superman can't perform feats we know he's capable just because they didn't make him do it in that particular movie sounds like some one is trying to create a handicap so Superman can lose. It's official Reeves and Rouths Supermen are the same, so whatever Reeves Superman can do Rouths Superman can do as well. Assuming otherwise is like saying in one comic book Superman doesn't use his heat vision, so that must mean he can't since the feat wasn't in the book even though the issue before he's seen using it. It's a known fact that Superman has heat vision so why play coy about it just to pull out a win for weaker characters?

@cattlebattle said:

@Vengance101 said:

What do you mean by that?? Technically, current Supes is the dude in the new movie.

That's why the older supes were more powerful but were going by current incarnations.

I'm lost here...Routh and Reeves were supposed to be the same Superman.....the new Superman is younger than both of them...well, he is in real life at least If your referring to Routh being the current Supes, he was only vulnerable to Kryptonite and nothing else, I don't see why he wouldn't be able to beat the carp out of the whole Marvel team himself

Thank you, I mean trying to limit Superman's capabilities to a single movie is just sad, and personally he still showed greater strength and speed feats than any of the avengers in Superman Returns.

@Vengance101 said:

Thor solo's wait I mean Iron Man solo's

Iron man is not soloing this, he couldn't even imagine doing this and Thor showed nothing like this the whole film.....Your statement is completely unfounded, I liked both Iron man films and Thor's film was ok but neither one of them showed any kind of feet in their movies that guarantee and easy win over Superman not even in the slightest. Superman's one speed feat when he flies in using nano second speed in order to land directly in the path of a high powered Gatling Gun, shielding innocent bystanders alone stomps any and every feat Thor or Iron man accomplished in either movie. Hell Thor had no speed feats in his movie to even speak of and his lifting feats were small and few, why are people acting as if Superman's feats are so small compared to Iron man and Thor just because they fought a tangible villain? Iron man is NOT strong enough to lift a something the size of that kryptonite Island, and he is NOT fast enough nor does he have acute body control to even hold a candle to Rouths Speed, he did nothing in either movies to prove that he can, that's when unseen feats should count against someone. People already know what Superman can do in the films so why play dumb and act like you don't because in one particular movie Superman didn't fight a super powered villain? Superman could have run through any villain Iron man or Thor faced easily, I don't even know how Iron man could even be considered beating any superman in anyway. Superman will tear that armor off of him before he even knows it. Tell you what when Thor and iron man start stopping natural disasters like Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Volcano irruptions, full scale earth quakes and lifting an entire Island into space that is composed of your ultimate weakness than maybe I'll bite on them soloing but that's laughable.

lemme know when Iron man is chilling in outerspace listening to the whole planet like it's nothing. Not even Thor does this...The shot of Supes hanging in space with his eyes closed concentrating on sounds of the planet is epic.

I don't know what everybody else is seeing, but the avengers in the cartoon are just not that strong to me. I mean Thor still cannot even take the hulk in this show either. It does not matter what incarnation of Thor Vs Hulk you witness or who wrote it or drew it, Thor constantly get's owned by The Hulk. I just said this in another thread about 5 minutes ago, in my eyes if you struggle with ANY incarnation of the Hulk you cannot beat ANY incarnation of superman PERIOD..Also it is a known fact just like people say for Thor that Superman held back that entire season only cutting loose when he know's it won't kill anybody. He'll knock Thor into tomorrow just like he did Darksied. Batman on this show and on his own show has far more feats than cartoon Captain America who hasn't had half as many as animated showings as Batman, and anybody who watched batman or justice league would know that Batman is more than Agile and Skilled enough to beat Cap. Wasp isn't strong enough to beat Hawk Girl, her strength feats on JL stomp anything Wasp has done on Avengers EMH. Stark isn't beating a Lantern, especially John who is stated to have the most solid of GL constructs and the greatest amount of will...etc JLA wins..

The only threat Marvel has is Thor and maybe the Hulk. however those two have incredibly inconsistent battle feats especially when it comes to each other. Half of the time Thor can't even beat Hulk and other times he stalemates him at best, I don't see how he's gonna beat Power girl or Wonder Woman who both could easily beat the hulk.

I swear I cannot understand why Daken is so hated....

Team 1 in a fair fight, the key to this fight in favor of DC is Deathstroke. If he is not neutralized and has had time to plan combined with his many other attributes, team 2 cannot win here. However Bane is being sorely underestimated and made out to be a muscle head, when in fact he is actually highly intelligent, sophisticated, wise, strong, and fast. He's somewhat a mirror image of batman, but more of a brute. He also is a tactical Genius, has an extremely high thresh hold for pain and is an excellent combatant who has beaten or matched batman on quite a few occasions without the use of venom. Deadshot is a better aim than hawkeye and he uses guns which gives him a speed edge when you compare pulling an arrow from a quiver to just pulling a trigger. Physically team 1 is superior to most of the members on Team 2 to me..

@spiderbat87 said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

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@Jnr6Lil said:

@CrimsonAlchemist said:

@Jnr6Lil: AND x-23 is a bigger ripoff of wolverine ooh.

A ripoff of a ripoff is worse than the original ripoff

Alot of "ripoffs" are better than the original. Anyway I think Daken is a far more interesting character than Wolverine can ever be. I love his whole Machiavelli/Sun Tzu thing where he uses manipulation and misdirection to make you do things without realising your being manipulated.

Wolverine can ever be?

Wolverine's been around for what 40 years.

Dakens been around less than 10, barely 5

What's your point?

I was about to ask the same thing lol....

@Jnr6Lil said:

@Postacrat said:

@Jnr6Lil said:

@CrimsonAlchemist said:

@Jnr6Lil: AND x-23 is a bigger ripoff of wolverine ooh.

A ripoff of a ripoff is worse than the original ripoff

He is wolverine's biological son, while laura is his partial clone. Since she is actually regarded in and off panel as a template for wolverine assassin like capabilities without any moral standing about it, I fail to see how that makes her less of a wolverine rip-off than Daken who from the very beginning has had some facet of his own personality brainwashed or no and has had no adamantium bonded to him...Hell even Sabertooth has had adamantium bonded to him, is he a rip-off too? Just sayin...no offense at all..

No, Daken is specifically a ripoff of Wolverine

And X-23 has a personality.

yes now X-23 has developed some semblance of a personality after basically being an immoral sociopath who has little or no idea of how to perceive emotions. It's plain to see that was a point of interest the writers wanted to iron out in Laura's character, she's antisocial and lacks a stable personality. Outside of claws and a healing factor there is nothing similar between wolverine and Daken. Different personalities, fighting skills, goals, ambitions, moral standings, dress codes and civilian attire. However there are tons of similarities between Laura and Logan, she acts pretty much just like a female version of wolverine without the experience and guidance. I like Laura but I hate when people trash Daken as a rip-off to build her up, when he is his "Biological Offspring" and she is a clone which for lack of a better word is a rip-off of the original being in which it was copied from. Why does the clone get more credibility for originality than the son, just doesn't make sense to me...Just saying...

@CrimsonAlchemist said:

@Postacrat: Well said buddy boy.

Thanks a lot bro, cool avatar!

@Jnr6Lil said:

@CrimsonAlchemist said:

@Jnr6Lil: AND x-23 is a bigger ripoff of wolverine ooh.

A ripoff of a ripoff is worse than the original ripoff

He is wolverine's biological son, while laura is his partial clone. Since she is actually regarded in and off panel as a template for wolverine assassin like capabilities without any moral standing about it, I fail to see how that makes her less of a wolverine rip-off than Daken who from the very beginning has had some facet of his own personality brainwashed or no and has had no adamantium bonded to him...Hell even Sabertooth has had adamantium bonded to him, is he a rip-off too? Just sayin...no offense at all..

@jashro44 said:

@Postacrat said:

Team two easily

Care to explain your case?

I will admit Captain America and Kraven are a strong pair. However Captain America's fighting skills are a bit more notable than Kraven's. Kraven has developed a Sambo like fighting style, that is suitable and effective for taming and wrestling wild beasts and exploiting weakness of people who charge in head first, Kraven is not to be underestimated and he is an excellent fighter and wrestler but in terms of martial arts he is outclassed here. However Kraven makes up for it by being physically stronger than cap probably with better healing feats as well and he may physically be the strongest person in this fight. In truth Kraven is the wild card of this entire battle, he can be the one that makes or breaks it even, I just feel that Captain America is always the favorite and though he is awesome he feels dated to me and his moves become easy to exploit sometimes because he is predictable. I have seen wolverine get around that one flaw in Cap on numerous of occasions as well as Deadpool. As far as fighting and and arsenals are concerned no matter how good team one could potentially be, they pail in comparison to team two who are both tactical Geniuses, better martial artists, with far superior feats.

@jashro44 said:

@Postacrat said:

Team two easily

Care to explain your case?

Definitely bro, can you give me till late tonight or tomorrow? I'm about to head in to work and I'm doing a 16 hour shift, so I may be too tired to do it after work I may say something stupid lol...