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#1 Posted by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

Was the snake supposed to be Satan? If he is, how did he get on Earth? Isn't the devil supposed to be in hell, until the apocalypse? If he's not in hell, why in god's name is he not. If he is such a bad evil guy, why doesn't Big G just lock him up?

People assume it Satan. They say " who else would have done it" . But a couple points:

1) The bible never directly says the snake was Satan. Not one verse says that

2) The Bible says that the snake itself was a crafty creature. And when God punished adam/eve, God also punished the snake. Why would God punish the snake if it was really Satan?

3) The snake was not the only animal who spoke in the Bible. A mule also spoke. And the Bible doesn't say anyone was speaking for the mule either.

Most angels were able to come to earth as they pleased. like when angels became men to have sex with women during Noah's time

The Devil is not in hell yet. The Bible says that the devil is the ruler of the earth. He has NOT been sent to hell yet. That is future prophecy

You have to ask God why he hasn't locked up satan yet.

#2 Edited by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

@hislolita: That would be amazing. I would love to satans side of the story

#3 Edited by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

@ilikedonuts said:

@syndicate:

cuz he never really liked humanity, if I remember it right, that why he wanna torture everyone but oh no he aint gettin' me.

Where is it stated that satan didn't like humans? I believe that is a myth. Satan doesn't torture people. God does. God created hell. Not satan. Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels

God created hell to punish the devil and his demons. later on God started sending humans to hell also

@erik said:

@matthewparker said:

@erik:

10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

The thief is satan.

Satan tried to steal from you? Why would he steal from you? Or are you just parroting hearsay? Haven't we come far enough in society that we would require evidence before condemning someone for sins that may or may not have happened?

The thief in that story is NOT satan. that scripture that he quoted is from John 10:10. The thief in that story are false prophets. In post 36 matthewparker again blamed Satan when if you read the whole story, satan has NOTHING to do with it.

@swordmasterd said:

@pooty: Well at least the fact he was trying to overthrow God and that God was testing our loyalty with fruit is what I've been taught being raised Christian, so I just stuck with it.

I completely understand my friend. But if you ever are interested enough to study for yourself, you may discover that everything you were taught is not true.

#4 Posted by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

@syndicate:

@pooty:

12 “How you are fallen from heaven,

O Lucifer,[a] son of the morning!

How you are cut down to the ground,

You who weakened the nations!

13 For you have said in your heart:

‘I will ascend into heaven,

I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;

I will also sit on the mount of the congregation

On the farthest sides of the north;

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,

I will be like the Most High.’

Good try, my friend. I give you an "A" for effort. that scripture is from isaiah 14:7. but that Scripture is NOT about Satan. Read Isaiah 14:4 to see exactly who they are talking about. I'll save you the effort.

Isaiah 14:4 " you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon: How the oppressor has come to an end! How his fury has ended!

@pooty said:

@syndicate:

@swordmasterd said:

Well if someone tried to over throw me and corrupted my creations, I would be pretty pissed

When did Satan try to over throw god? What scripture is that? Also Satan didn't corrupt God's creation. Satan said " If you eat this fruit, you know right and wrong". That is exactly what happened. Satan didn't want us to remain ignorant. God wanted us to be ignorant. Satan was giving us free will to choose between right and wrong.

I never understood this. If we have freewill then God shouldn't care about the fruit eating. Some might try to pounce on me and say "Well Adam and Eve didn't have freewill like we do now" but then that would mean that God intended for his creation to initially be without freewill. Soooo you worship a god that doesn't want you to have freewill. And that would mean that you only exist to worship him.

We don't have " free will". The ability to make decisions is not the same as free will. The word " free" means without cost or no restriction. Do our actions have " cost"? yes. Do our actions have restrictions. yes. the bible says "the cost of sin is death". if we had free will then God wouldn't hold us accountable for the decisions we make.

@racob7 said:

@pooty said:

And why would satan be jealous of humans? Angels are more powerful, live longer, wiser, stronger and can have children with humans. Anything humans can do angels can do better

Exactly, so why should God love them as much as the angels?

Why should he love them at all?

What makes them so special?

Does the bible say he loves us as much as angels? Even angels are beneath God but he loves them. Supposedly, he loves all that he creates. Is Satan mad that God loves animals too? I don't think satan was jealous of man. he had a personal problem with God IMO

@pooty said:

@syndicate:

@swordmasterd said:

Well if someone tried to over throw me and corrupted my creations, I would be pretty pissed

When did Satan try to over throw god? What scripture is that? Also Satan didn't corrupt God's creation. Satan said " If you eat this fruit, you know right and wrong". That is exactly what happened. Satan didn't want us to remain ignorant. God wanted us to be ignorant. Satan was giving us free will to choose between right and wrong.

@racob7 said:

@syndicate: Lucy is like the firstborn child who doesn't want to share the love with his little brother. He hates us because he's jealous.

He's also a brat.

Satan had plenty of other angels as brothers who all shared God's love. So satan had no trouble with sharing God's love. And why would satan be jealous of humans? Angels are more powerful, live longer, wiser, stronger and can have children with humans. Anything humans can do angels can do better

It's been said that he wanted to be as powerful/Over throw God

I also I was taught he tempted man into eating the fruit

I agree. those things have been said. But is it true? Where is the scripture saying he wanted to be as powerful as god or overthrow him? He did tempt man into eating the fruit. he wanted man to know the difference between right and wrong. Why didn't god want us to know right from wrong is the question I have.

#5 Posted by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

@syndicate:

Well if someone tried to over throw me and corrupted my creations, I would be pretty pissed

When did Satan try to over throw god? What scripture is that? Also Satan didn't corrupt God's creation. Satan said " If you eat this fruit, you know right and wrong". That is exactly what happened. Satan didn't want us to remain ignorant. God wanted us to be ignorant. Satan was giving us free will to choose between right and wrong.

@racob7 said:

@syndicate: Lucy is like the firstborn child who doesn't want to share the love with his little brother. He hates us because he's jealous.

He's also a brat.

Satan had plenty of other angels as brothers who all shared God's love. So satan had no trouble with sharing God's love. And why would satan be jealous of humans? Angels are more powerful, live longer, wiser, stronger and can have children with humans. Anything humans can do angels can do better

#6 Edited by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

Wasn't Ultron beaten by regular Hulk in the past? If so, WBH should curbstomp

In Secret Wars, hulk was able to put a dent in Ultron. Then ultron shot Hulk with a beam that almost incapacitated Hulk. before Ultron could finish Hulk, The Wasp entered the crack in Ultrons armor and destroyed him from the inside. But this Hulk is much more powerful then that version of Hulk. But Ultron has been upgraded also.

#7 Posted by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

@yodaprime: So are you saying:

1) That there are times, situations and circumstances where rape, genocide and killing children can be considered loving, fair, reasonable and justified?

2) I don't consider God all bad or all good. He is what he is.but Because you are Christian doesn't that make you biased and narrow minded because Christians INSIST that God is perfect? Can't a predeposed disposition alter your perception? I don't need to see God as good or bad. You do. So who has the more honest open minded opinion? The one who doesn't care if God is good or bad? or the one who insist God has to be good?

3) Again I was Christian for over 20yrs. Just because I don't insist that God is good, does not mean that a Christian has more thought or insight then a skeptic. As I said, maybe it is a Christians bias that keeps them from having an open mind.

#8 Posted by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

@yodaprime: Is the Bible ONLY the new Testament? No. Even Christians refer to the old testament. If you mean NT then say NT. Regardless, God, the one you worship, did the things recorded in the Old Testament. Maybe our definition of perfect and love are different. I can't call a being who condoned rape and actively commanded killing of children,genocide, slavery. i cant call that being perfect and loving. but apparently you can. I would like to see the definition of perfect and loving that include those qualities

#9 Edited by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

since when does the bible tell you to hate, rape and such?

nearly every time the word "hate" appears in the bible, some form of "don't" is right next to it.

Last time I checked Exodus and Leviticus were in the BIBLE. 2 Tim 3:16 says "ALL SCRIPTURE IS INSPIRED OF GOD." You cant' just pick out the nice parts and forget that bad ever happened. the God of Leviticus is the same God as the God of Revelation. You can't call God perfect and love if, at any time, he condoned rape, the killing of children and the taking of slaves. Just because he supposedly.......changed does NOT excuse his previous actions. and plus it's impossible for God to change.

Malichi 3:6 says: I the LORD do not change.

Numbers 23:19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.

#10 Posted by pooty (12777 posts) - - Show Bio

@omgomgwtfwtf: I'm kind of an independent, I lean more towards democrat, but support guns rights and stuff like that, perhaps regional influence is the culperate.

I HATE guns. Really REALLY REALLY HATE guns. But I bought a shot gun 2 months ago. I hate guns................................................ but I hate Zombies even more.