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#1 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do people think human lives are more important then animal lives? I wonder do animals think animal lives are more important then humans?

#2 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty:

Given that all creators are responsible for creating a world full of evil. What is the difference between your Supreme Creator and the biblical Creator?

I don't pretend to know my Creator is perfect. He may be above good and evil. Nor do i make irrational excuses for him. IMO, he created us and let's us do as we please. We are just another of his creations. I think human arrogance and hubris makes us believe that we are "special" in the Almighty's eyes. We may be. But i've seen little evidence of it

#3 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio

@lunacyde: That said there is absolutely nothing that can erase what is shown in the video already presented.

more evidence never erases. but it may clarify some things and provide more insight

#4 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio
@lunacyde said:
@pooty said:
@lunacyde said:
@pooty said:

I'm happy that the court of public opinion doesn't mean much. I don't fully trust the legal system. I don't trust public opinion at all. Some people are so sick of police brutality that they are ready to condemn this cop before all the evidence is presented. Some are so sick of people screaming "police brutality" that they automatically assume the cop is right and the suspect is guilty.

There's a video of what happened. It should be evident what happened.

More video may become available with different angles. Witnesses may come forward. This is why I'm happy the court of public opinion doesn't count for much.

It's already clear that he lied in his testimony from the video already presented. The video shows enough to convict him, further evidence is not needed.

Now i'm even MORE HAPPY that the court of public opinion means little.

#5 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio

@lunacyde said:
@pooty said:

I'm happy that the court of public opinion doesn't mean much. I don't fully trust the legal system. I don't trust public opinion at all. Some people are so sick of police brutality that they are ready to condemn this cop before all the evidence is presented. Some are so sick of people screaming "police brutality" that they automatically assume the cop is right and the suspect is guilty.

There's a video of what happened. It should be evident what happened.

More video may become available with different angles. Witnesses may come forward. This is why I'm happy the court of public opinion doesn't count for much.

#6 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm happy that the court of public opinion doesn't mean much. I don't fully trust the legal system. I don't trust public opinion at all. Some people are so sick of police brutality that they are ready to condemn this cop before all the evidence is presented. Some are so sick of people screaming "police brutality" that they automatically assume the cop is right and the suspect is guilty.

#7 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio

@chu42t said:

@mastermercenary: Well, now that Jesus is here, no one does that stuff anymore, obviously. You don't need to take these verses as what you need to do or what they did. God judged the tribes around Israel, and he used the Israelites to destroy them. Jesus never told anyone to kill anyone, in fact, he healed the ear of the servant that Peter cut off.

Just because Jesus came, that does not nullify the things that God did in the OT. And God didn't command them to kill only the "bad" nations. Some were killed just so the Isralites could have there land. That's no different then what america did to the Indians. God also ordered his people to kill children, to capture women to force them to be their wives(rape) and gave them permission to have slaves and beat them as needed. While I agree that God has the power to be judge, jury and executioner that does not mean he was justified. Nor does Jesus change who God is

#8 Edited by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89: so you would rather be labeled a racist murderer and going to jail for life rather then having lawyer fees and having to relocate?

#9 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89:

George Zimmermman is now homeless terrified of going in public areas and is badly in debt. Despite him being found not guilty.

Last I heard of Darren Wilson someone posted his address and threats to kill him and he had to take his wife and run away.

Zimmerman is an idiot. He got in trouble with the law a few times after the Trayvon case. Darren Wilson still has his wife. They may have been forced to move but it's still better then being found guilty of murder and spending the rest of your life in jail. If the people in Cincinnati want to destroy their own community let them.

#10 Posted by pooty (14087 posts) - - Show Bio
@rpgesus said:
@sophia89 said:
@batwatch said:

@sophia89:

“A drunk driver is a danger to others, and the cop had gotten a bottle of gin from the driver.”

Police officers have never had permission to cap someone for driving drunk.

“The driver tried to escape a cop, may have been DUI, had no DL nor anything to proof ownership of the car.”

None of this has refutes Lunacyde’s point that the suspect offered no significant threat.

“The cop had no guarantee that the driver was going to go 5 MPH or 70 MPH. All he knew is the car began accelerating.”

The cop had no guarantee that the man wasn’t carrying a biochemical plague. Perhaps he should have set fire to the car just to be on the safe side.

“He already started moving before the cop fired.”

This is true.

“Cars only accelerate if you apply pressure on the gas pedal, unless the cop placed the driver's foot on the gas pedal before firing the driver was already applying pressure.”

It is possible that his foot could have fallen on the accelerator after being shot or he could have hit it through involuntary spasms, but if you watch the video, it is quite clear he accelerates before the shot.

“And as you saw the driver had already started the car and started moving before the cop fired.”

Yep.

“The driver is the one that created the situation. Why did he flee from the cop?

“The cop wasn't being aggressive there was no reason to flee.”

The shooting victim was clearly in the wrong for fleeing, but since he did not pose any threat to the cop’s life, the killing is not justified.

“And had he done nothing he would still be called inept.”

That’s true, but there are things he could have done, specifically, pursuing and calling in backup, which would have been reasonable. It’s not like the only option was shoot or let him get away.

1. No, however they have the right to defend themselves or others.

2. The cop didn't know who he was, all he knew is what he got from their interaction. Which suggests that the driver was a danger to himself or others.(Keep in mind drunk drivers kill more people in america than guns).

3. That is overreaching dude. If a car started to accelerate with you being dragged you have no idea if the car will go slow or fast. Keep in mind that you can get killed or seriously injured if you got dragged by a car(A man died when he got dragged by a car going 30 MPH for a few seconds).

The simple fact is a driver that is most likely drunk starting dragging you you will panic.

4-5-6. It seems you agree with me here.

7. A cop is a human being, panicking and fearing for his life is not a crime. He didn't know anything about the other guy. Assuming worst case scenario(Which cops are supposed to assume)A drunk criminal tried to escape and was willing to kill the cop to escape.

Saying the cop should have perfectly aimed disabling the engine and the tires is a fantasy that would only happen in movies. As you saw he wasn't even aiming when the bullet was fired.

8. He didn't fully see his face neither did the camera, he didn't see any ID or get a name to try and identify him, the driver said that wasn't even his car, back up isn't a magic thing it takes time for them to arrive.

Had the driver got away he could have dumped the car and escaped, the officer wouldn't be able to find him again.

With the info the cop got on his camera and assuming worst case scenario the driver would have got away.

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Either way the cop's life is ruined whether he gets found guilty or not guilty. Best thing is to be found guilty so no riots would happen and destroy the town.

absolutely disagree, its kinda sad we have to appease criminals. they should find him guilty/non-guilty based on nothing but the law. if found non-guilty they should bring in the national guard and tell them there is only one warning. enough with these riots, my friends go to college in downtown cinci and one was almost mugged, there are robberies all the time commited by the locals.

I agree with RPG. If it were my father, son, brother etc. I wouldn't want him to be found guilty to appease society. Find him guilty based on facts not a cities reaction.