And Ollie has never faced anybody on par with composite Punisher. If this is a simple "Ollie beat NINJAS" thing, Punisher 89, easily took down hordes of NINJAS. I already proved gun > arrows. They are faster, they are more lethal, they have an infinity faster firing rate. Punisher is clearly stronger, he punched through a guys face and effortlessly snaps arms and legs. I know I know, Ollie fights Mirakuru uses, he actually gets beat up pretty bad whenever he does.
Punisher lands one bullet on Ollie, he's down. Ollie lands one arrow on Punisher, Frank doesn't even feel it.
Ollie's never faced someone with military training? He's currently going up against military guys in flashbacks. Before his training. I disagree that guns are more lethal than arrows. I'd rather be shot with a bullet than a broadhead. Lethality is moot here since Ollie has accuracy feats from that distance. None of the Punishers do. Ollie also has several feats dodging gunfire. Frank has none avoiding arrows. All of Frank's strength feats came from hitting people. He's not tagging Ollie if it comes down to hand to hand. Looney Bin Jim didn't have any problem avoiding his strength and he was an untrained thug. Ollie is one of the most skilled in his universe and he's way faster than Castle.
I don't really use his ninja fighting feats as evidence. I mean, who hasn't fought ninjas right? The ones who have names are a different story.
Ignoring the battle for a sec, which of the Punisher movies was your fav?
I don't think all three Punishers together could beat Ollie.
This isn't 3 vs 1. This is all 3 punishers combined into 1 uber Punisher.
I know that but I'm saying even all three of them can't beat Ollie (maybe if they could communicate) let alone one single guy with their combined feats. There's no one in the Punisher's universe like Ollie.
I don't think all three Punishers together could beat Ollie. They're fodder compared to what he goes up against. They have no arrow dodging feats while he's avoided gunfire several times. Their strength feats don't matter when they don't have the skill feats to land them. Their durability feats don't include arrows placed in vital organs. Look at all that cover. That benefits Ollie way more than it does them.
I had no idea the Vine thought so highly of the Punisher.