" simply due to the fact that have endured farrrrrrr worse than than the Scoobies could even imagine "
XD what? what are you smoking? "
I am smoking copious amounts of Kush, good sir "
you would have to be to make that statement...also sharing is caring "
that it is, my cheeb-smoking friend, and when the opportune time comes, I will gladly share my bud with you. But in all seriousness.........idk. Buffy would definitely kill Angel, but Gunn would definitely be whooping Xander's ass, and Wesley (and since Illyria is here, this is going to be Grieving, Ultra-Badass Wesley) has a good chance of killing Giles. Lorne has absolutely no fighting skills whatsoever, so he is going to die. When it comes down to Willow vs Illyria......It depends on if Illyria is depowered or not. Either way, since the OP didn't state Dark Willow or not, I think Illyria (in either state) is going to kill her. If Connor doesn't defeat Faith, then Illyria definitely will. Spike will probably be killed by by Connor or Illyria also. Illyria also has some chance of killing Buffy. Buffy, Spike, or Faith will end up taking care of Wesley and Gunn. Connor will probably die at the hands of Buffy. Really, I don't see anyone taking Illyria down (Hamilton was powerful as hell, at a level none of the combatants could hope to be). This might lead to a technical win for team Angel, but it will be a Pyhrric victory indeed "
wesley cant beat giles. Wesley is giles with out the experience. willow teleports depowered ilyyeria into space....willow rapes full powered illyerias mind like george did..either way willow wins. Conner couldnt beat faith when faith wasnt even trying. Again.....conner couldnt beat faith when faith wasnt even trying...he certainly cant beat spike..who is the only person in history to kill 2 slayers...and someone who can give buffy trouble. willow at not even her strongest could destroy the planet...transmute banish people to different dimensions..and Hurt depowered gods who were only hurt before by obejcts created and wielded by gods...and hurt Full powered Gods with just a scream...now she heals from any injury has the power to kill demi gods...and she can even drain energy...even Life force from beings around her...so no..willow stomps. Team buffy has this in the bag "
woah okay so what dark willow versus fully powerd illyria it really depends if you are talking about the fuuly powered illyria who was capable of ending all time and space where dark willow was going to try and end the world and got stopped by xander and partially giles i dont see that happening and when illyria was in fred's body before they zapped her i am pretty sure she would take dark willow because illyria im pretty sure also stated that she used mystical forces and illyria could open a portal to a hell dimension stop time and before willow could do anything about that illyria could hrow her in there but is willow capable of manipulating time because she wouldnt be able to do anything when illyria stops time and im pretty sure willow wouldnt be able to teleport illyria anywhere because anya stated that willow wasnt able to teleport
" He's never been truly defeated, but he wasn't omnipotent. If he was, then he would've known of the other realm's existence. "
but thats a lack of Omniscience... not Omnipotence... Classic Beyonder as I recall was never really Defeated... and if he in fact was Higher than everyone and everything in terms of Power in Marvel... then he is Omnipotent... him not knowing about other realms is a lack of knowledge... not really power though... "
if he was omnipotent that would mean all powerful making him more powerful than TOAA which he was not people just make him out to be as powerful as TOAA without realizing that TOAA made everything in the marvel Megaverse including Beyonder and has power over everything he's created which includes Beyonder but doesn't venture out of marvel. In truth there is no such thing as omnipotent in comics because they'd have to be all powerful meaning they can do whatever the hell they want to any comic companies universes and hold power over everything that has will and already is in existence which no so called omnipotent character has been shown to do. "
i have a question if the one above all created beyonder would it also include phoenix made beyonder because one above all made phoenix to create life am i right im not saying that phoenix would beat the beyonder no way i was just wondering but i am not sure if phoenix can do this but i read on another forum that beyonder said that if he didnt see phoenix coming she could have killed him i have not read the comic i just read that and that was rachel if beyonder said that and it is true if he doest see wpotc coming could she kill him? i also dont read beyonder so i am not quite sure of what he can do. Thanks
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