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Yes Cyclops is the very definition of relevant to th X-Men franchise. Even now in books that he is t even in he is still the main focuse of the underlying story/mystery. I think Joss Whedon did a fantastic job with him during his run on Astonishing X-Men, really showed him as the leader and teacher that he should have been portrayed as all along. I like the idea of Cyclops being broken and following another leader but the only person. I can think he'd follow now is Magneto and that's basically because of how he is running his team over in Uncanny X-Men. Also like the thought of him being behind bars pulling the strings of a team of mutants, however that might make him seem more like a villain than anything.

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@poisonfleur: true Cyclpps doesn't have the parental approach that Storm does, but he still cares about the people he leads and protects. And during the Messiah Complex and Second Coming heck even the Schism Cyclops was making the hard decisions that the other X-Men either couldn't or wouldn't make and the X-Men were for the most part ok with it. Now fast forward past AvX and it seems like people just forget all the good that this man had done. I'm just waiting to see what it was that he did and if it's something he can come back from.

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@phoenixofthetides: @koays: EXACTLY!!!!! As I read more and more of EXM, I'm finding that the entire X-Men team is hypocrites. Cyclops didn't do anything that wasn't in the benefit of mutantkind. Honestly without him during the last three big X-Men events, the X-Men would have been royally screwed. And also I believe that Storm is a very effective leader, and it would have been awesome to see them tackle this t-mist problem together. just sucks that Cyclops had to be vilified to get his point across. Because I'm convinced that Cyclops would just got off like a mad man and get himself killed after bringing all the mutants together in Washington. It just doesn't make sense. That's like Capt. America charging into Asgardia without his shield to fight a bunch of Gods because they were picking on Thor. It just doesn't make sense.

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I was just recently reading Extraordinary X-Men number 5 and something caught my eye. Towards the end there is a page where storm is talking to a crowd of people and tells them that they are done hiding as mutants and that the X-Men are here to protect mutants, Inhumans and humans alike. She goes further to say that if anyone trys to hurt or hunt them they will retaliate. On the next page this is met with nothing but mostly positive feedback. My question is why is Storm looked upon as a savior while Cyclops was painted as a crazy mutant terrorist when they are preacher the exact same message?

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What i can't understand though is why kitty left, i know she was pissed off at logans team but i couldn't recall what exactly they did to make her so angry.

The best part about that series though was the look on wolverines face when the O5 and kitty defected to cyclops' team and cyclops' flashed him a little smile. That was gold.

it was freaking AWESOME!!!!! possibly the best page in the whole event.

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Because the event Age of Ultron broke time and space, it doesn't really matter what the O5 do because it will technically have no effect.

The time cube prevented only the O5 from returning. It was stated that "for some reason, they can't go back in time." Which indicates they have a greater purpose in the current MU before going back. It could be argued they couldn't go back because of the events of AoU but the Mystique Wolverine love child, I forget his name, was able to travel in time when they tested it.

I totally forgot about the AoU event breaking time and space (yet another avengers screw up lol) but that would make sense if they were to somehow incorporate that into ANXM going forward as a reason that the O5 are still here. And Wolverine's son was named Raze. Pretty cool character, would like to see more of him.

It was very cool. I love the fact Kitty and O5 jumped over to Scotts team. Scott > Wolverine for me.

YES Scott's Uncanny X-Men >>>>>>> over any of Wolverine's teams.

Each mutant faction is probably going to be really pissed. I see Wolverine's team setting up some "verbal" confrontation (wolverine style) while Scott's team will probably just try to destroy them. Same with Cable's team when he gets the chance. Am I missing any X-Teams?

Just Storm and the all female X-Men which would be kind of interesting to see how that turns out due to Kitty leaving to join Cyclops.

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(may contain spoilers)

first let me start off by saying that this event had a bit of a see saw effect on me, some points were highs others were lows. overall i enjoyed it however at times the crossover felt like it could be way too confusing for the casual comic book reader.

first question: if the original x-men time traveled to the present day marvel universe then wouldn't that mean that the present should have changed because they were not back in the past for certain things to happen? especially with them being in the present as long as they were/are.

second question: how is it possible for this young jean to be more powerful and experienced in the use of her powers than her future older self? that just doesn't make sense seeing as how her older self would know how to subdue her younger self much easier than was depicted in the event.

third question: did the time cube just stop working and didn't let anyone return home or just the O5 x-men? wasn't too sure if the future brotherhood got stranded her in the present as well.

fourth question: how cool was it to the look on wolverine and storms faces when Cyclops and Magik came to take Kitty and the O5 x-men away with them.

fifth question: how do you see each faction of mutants handling the revelation that SHIELD was manufacturing their own sentinels?

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@slimlim said:

@bigtewell said:

*SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN"T READ BOTA"

but now that the o5 has joined cyclops do you think the o5 will be a significant part of the uncanny book?

Doubt it. They will appear in each other's books from time to time, but generally will have their own stories.

will the uncanny team and the o5 mix?

Only if its needed for the story

could we possibly see another book on cyclops side?

Yet ANOTHER X-book? I hope not. The closest being Cable's X-Force.

how much longer will cyclops crusade last?

When he makes nice with Wolverine

will magneto leave?

Eventually. But hopefully not too soon as i'm enjoying the ambiguity of his actions lately.

will wolverine be able to make nice nice with cyclops team now?

Don't think so. Marvel wants Cyclops and Wolverine to be this era's Xavier and Magneto.

will wolverine be able to make nice nice with cyclops team now?

Don't think so. Marvel wants Cyclops and Wolverine to be this era's Xavier and Magneto.

I'm sorry but if thats what marvel wants then the x-men are doomed. Plus not to mention that bendis is writting almost every x-men book, ick. I mean what magneto and xavier had was lengendary, cyclops and wolverine not so nuch. I'm hoping that magneto will do something unforgivable that would make him on the outs with cyclops and then he could lead the new brotherhood with kid xavier and wolverine jr

thats actually a really good idea with Magneto bracing off somehow and leading a new brotherhood of evil mutants. however i do think that for the time being he'll stay by Cyclops' side due to the fact that SHIELD has been developing sentinels.

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I doubt that Iceman will join cyclops team, however this past arc in AXM just goes to show the hypocrisy of Wolverine, Iceman is possessed by the Death Seed, Freezes damn near the entire planet and then wolverine and everyone else just looks at him tells him to stop being so damn emotional, however Cyclops and Emma are still being treated like villains by shield and others in the marvel u. it would be interesting to have iceman on cyclops' team since he now has a first hand experience as to what cyclops was dealing with when he had the Phoenix Force. And plus Cyclops could teach him how to deal with it.

I do think that Iceman would probably have more sympathy for Cyclops and crew now, but I don't know that that would make him agree with what Cyclops is doing. Or be able to forgive him for Xavier (Xavier makes it more personal). I can see how it could be interesting to see him interacting with Cyclops and especially Emma, but I personally don't see him joining their side.

I don't know that I'd say Wolverine's being entirely hypocritical, though. Iceman didn't choose his power, or to have the Death-seed placed in him, while Cyclops actively sought out the power of the Phoenix. Also, Iceman didn't kill Xavier.

And, probably most importantly to Wolverine, Cyclops has yet to accept responsibility for his transgressions, while Iceman readily acknowledges that what he did was wrong and that he probably should be punished if he could be.

he might not be able to forgive Cyclops for Xavier however that would make for such an interesting dynamic and with his background as a teacher at the Jean Grey school he could bring another aspect of training for the new mutants.

Cyclops didnt choose the power either, he got it by accident when Iron Man made the Phoenix split, Just as Iceman got the death seed when Dark Beast placed it in him while jumping through the portal. Cyclops only sought the power of the other P5 members during the battle with the Avengers and other X-Men. had he been left alone to continue his work making the world a better place then none of that bad stuff would have happened.

Also Cyclops did assume responsibly for his actions in regards to killing Xavier, he even told Wolverine that he was sorry that Xavier died during the AVX Consequences. Cyclops just would not let anyone tell him that his belief in what he was doing was wrong, and ultimately he was right. Iceman is just dealing with the fact that he actually LIKED having his dark side run wild.

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I doubt that Iceman will join cyclops team, however this past arc in AXM just goes to show the hypocrisy of Wolverine, Iceman is possessed by the Death Seed, Freezes damn near the entire planet and then wolverine and everyone else just looks at him tells him to stop being so damn emotional, however Cyclops and Emma are still being treated like villains by shield and others in the marvel u. it would be interesting to have iceman on cyclops' team since he now has a first hand experience as to what cyclops was dealing with when he had the Phoenix Force. And plus Cyclops could teach him how to deal with it.