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#1 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@poisonfleur said:

@phoenixofthetides: @devilsgrin81: I hear you Devil, But I think they intended Warpath to fill in the void Wolverine left from the original storyline since he was in the future. Tough guy, brunette, sharp weapons, died by disintegration. Get it. Warpath is hands down the sexiest hero, IMO. He beats Thor, Cyclops, & Captain America when it comes to male sex appeal. Yes.. I have a type.

Back on topic. It would've made more sense to have Jubilee in there, since she was in the original 3 films. BUT--

1) Too many Asians in one scene would have made the producers lose their minds.

2) She really wouldn't have served the plot much...

3) The movie was crowded as a B!tc# as is. Maybe it was for the best that she wasn't in it.

BUT-- If she was in it, I would have liked to see her in the end with all the others at the Xavier institute. I'm surprised Blink, Warpath, and Sunspot didn't make it in the end. :( But maybe that was left for the original 3 films team.

I'm assuming that Blink, Warpath and Sunspot survived due to the timeline adjustment, but are simply too young in the current era to be on the team. They seemed quite young in the DoFP future, and that appears to take place 20-30 years in the future. In the current timeline, they might only be children or not even born, yet.

I don't think any of the Cannon Fodder X-Men served the plot much; you could have inserted any other random character and made up some reason for them to be there. Swap in Magik for Blink, Firestar for Sunspot, Frenzy for Warpath, Strong Guy for Colossus, and the scenes would have played out pretty much identically to how they did in the movie.

#2 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

Omega level mutant .... it's truly an irrelevant title. Without a proper criterium to be considered Omega level, the title is irrelevant.

Yes. I don't even necessarily have the same issues with the term as some other readers have, and even I think it's largely useless. At this point, writers just throw the term out there to make a character seem very powerful without any other qualifications.

#3 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@roddy010 said:

@phoenixofthetides said:

@roddy010 said:

@phoenixofthetides: How is Storm unstabled, when she has shown to be a competent leader as of late?

I don't consider a personality that needs to dramatically cut their hair and change their costume when they have personal issues stable. And unfortunately, writers have tended to write her more as if other people merely allow her to be the leader, and not as if she is a leader in her own merit. I see her less as being a leader at this point, and more as someone with enough power to get what they want. She's spent a large portion of the last few events just being in the background or with minimal input into the direction of the team.

Lol considering the past leaders of the X-men, cutting her hair is the least unstable thing done so far. Also considering her resume as field leader, Storm has led multiple teams and has earned the respect amongst her peers. Moreso than anyone on the list. I don't see any pretentious behavior from her just because she demands that respect. Thats what makes the character so appealing, her domineering pressence. Writers as of late have been giving her a voice again and (that's something we haven't seen in years) making her status more pivotal in the X-verse and MU as a whole. What merits Rachel or M a good leader?

My main issue is that newer characters haven't been given the chance to step up and prove themselves as leaders, because the older/senior characters keep asserting themselves over them. We've seen what Storm and Cyclops can do; it's a new time with new problems - time for new blood, such as Dani, Sam, Rachel and others to step up and take the reins.

I have to add, though, that having a domineering presence, doesn't make one a good leader - it merely means that it's easy for that person to bully, browbeat or assert themselves over others. I don't find it particularly appealing - I prefer leaders, in the comics world, like Captain America or Mr. Fantastic, that don't lead by being the "alpha male" but because other characters, even more powerful ones, accord them respect.

Personally, I think it's lazy writing to always go back to the same stable of "leader-type characters" for every roster, and I think a lot of a character's charm is lost when they are constantly put in that position. I think this is what has held Storm back as a character for so long - she's become so strongly identified with leadership as her sole defining character trait, that writers often don't have anything else for her to do. When she is rightly a follower in a story line, she is relegated to glass cannon lightning bolt background character or silent team member status because some writers just don't know how to tell an interesting story about her without it. She needs to sit down and put her own affairs in order before I'd be interested seeing her in a leadership position again; we've seen her do this for years, and it would be good to see her do something else. Blame the writers if you have to, but there are many X-Men fans who have their favorite characters but don't constantly expect them to get leadership positions all the time. I think many Storm fans forget that she was a relatively new character, and completely unproven as a leader, when she was given field leader status. The series is going to stagnate if it's the same few characters heading the team each time there is a roster change.

The core question is: How does a junior member get experience as a leader when the old salts keep taking the promotions, leadership positions, major story lines, etc."?

It's a Catch 22 to criticize a character for not having enough experience, when they aren't given the opportunity to get that experience, and it makes the X-Men fans and writers seem like they enjoy enforcing glass ceiling character limitations because of a fear of change.

#4 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@roddy010 said:

@phoenixofthetides: How is Storm unstabled, when she has shown to be a competent leader as of late?

I don't consider a personality that needs to dramatically cut their hair and change their costume when they have personal issues stable. And unfortunately, writers have tended to write her more as if other people merely allow her to be the leader, and not as if she is a leader in her own merit. I see her less as being a leader at this point, and more as someone with enough power to get what they want. She's spent a large portion of the last few events just being in the background or with minimal input into the direction of the team.

#5 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Widow and Hawkeye could bring Smaug down - she is smart and perceptive enough to notice the damaged scale, and he has good enough Aim to bring it down with a trick arrow once he realizes regular arrows don't work.

It's worth noting that, IIRC, movie Smaug can only be killed with specially-made Black Arrows fired from a siege engine. And that's after you damage his armour plating with one.

But we don't know what about those arrows make them special. Maybe it's simply that they're long enough to reach a dragon's internal organs. OTOH, maybe they have to be specially enchanted to neutralize his protective magics - movie Smaug was fine after being buried in molten gold, and of course he seems unbothered by all the flames shooting out of his mouth.

However, these are superheroes. As soon as they found out about this weakness, they would probably adapt it so they could use it. And they can all definitely survive his attacks (whether by dodging or tanking.)

All probably solo, with the possible exception of movie Hulk (too dumb, and Smaug is tough enough to brawl with him.)

#6 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@night4345: the ones currently in team

as for thread i am going with avengers

What version of team are you referring to? Are these the movie version of each team or the cartoon versions? It's unclear based on the art you used, and I tend to think the cartoon versions have the edge over the live action versions...

#8 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

@devilsgrin81 said:

the only question mark would have been... In place of whom? Blink? She was awesome. In place of Warpath would have made most sense, since he was utterly useless.

I don't think she would need to take anyone else's spot. Just show her throw a few fireworks, and then get killed (like the other Cannon Fodder X-Men). I think they lost quite a few seconds focusing on Sunspot in a few scenes, and another character could have easily been given 3 seconds per scene during the two fights. It would fit IMHO, to give Jubilee a throwaway line when Storm returns because in X-2, Storm specifically recognized Jubes' voice when she rescued the students from their cell.

#9 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

I read Sci-Fi if I want powers to make scientific sense, but there are plausible explanations for all of the powers you mentioned - Colossus, for example, isn't really becoming steel...he becomes "organic steel", which implies that his molecules undergo a change where they become very dense but still able to support life, while Jean's telepathy is simply the sensitivity to other people's brainwaves with potential to emit an energy form that can alter how those brainwaves are expressed. The "dimension" Cyclops eyes are said to be portals too is simply stating that they process and emit an energy form that is usually invisible to humans or physical matter. It's not really that difficult to come up with basic ideas governing how a mutation would result in those powers.

It gets a little harder with Storm or Nightcrawler, since they have secondary abilities that seem tailor made for convenience rather than based off of their primary abilities. Being able to alter weather patterns using a specialized energy produced by your nervous system is one thing, but being resistant to g-forces as you fly, being able to breathe despite flying too quickly for air to reach your lungs, seeing in the dark (without drying or frying your eyes) and being able to generate bioelectric lightning without traumatizing your bones, skin, nervous system, or organs just seem more convenient than the basic underlying power. Writers just needed fans to forget that such a collection of abilities was implausible, and wanted to remind everyone to have fun with the character.

#10 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3450 posts) - - Show Bio

I would love to switch it up with M taking the lead, but Rachel is generally who I think would make the most sense in that position.

TBH, I don't think Storm belongs in a leadership position, anymore, due to how she's been written over the past few years. She and Psylocke are both too unstable to lead teams, even though they are very powerful.