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#1 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

@phoenixofthetides said:

The writer is biased:

  • Wolverine can't really claim any high ground, ever. He's been a jerk and a killer for years and it's only recently that he tried to change his image. In fact, he generally advocated that all of the younger members should learn to fight for years. That is why he taught self-defense to so many junior members.

That's not really accurate. While Wolverine has trained many of the students in self-defense and combat, there's actually only a few that he ever hand-picked for active duty. Actually, I think only Kitty and Armor, really (both of whom were virtually invulnerable, good students, and able to fight him to a standstill). He may have trained others to fight, but there's very few he suggested become X-men.

He only suggested that the New X-Men get to be active members well after they'd proven themselves in the field, and has actually spent most of his time with the X-men considering himself their protector. This has always been the difference between him and Cyclops, who was trained from day one to send kids out into the field.

I meant junior members who were between New Mutants and X-Men status, such as Psylocke, Dazzler, Kitty (even though she got some residual skills from being possessed), and eventually Armor. But I'm pretty sure I remember that he was named as the main teacher in hand to hand during the outback days.

#2 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

The writer is biased:

  • Wolverine can't really claim any high ground, ever. He's been a jerk and a killer for years and it's only recently that he tried to change his image. In fact, he generally advocated that all of the younger members should learn to fight for years. That is why he taught self-defense to so many junior members.
  • Storm has never shown any interest in the next generation of mutants until now (the New Mutants basically fell apart because she left them with Magneto, and bonus points to anyone who remembers the Mutant Massacre where the New Mutants were missing and presumed dead after Thor's energy burst but Storm nor anyone else in the lineup bothered to check for bodies). She had no interest in training during the New X-Men, and relatively recently became a co-headmistress. She's never been all that interested in that role, so she wouldn't be able to set anything straight, nor would it be appropriate for her to do so. This isn't a knock against the character, but the fact is that she's generally preoccupied with other responsibilities, and unlike the faculty in New X-Men, she's never been looked at as an educator - she's one of the team captains first and foremost.
  • And most of the X-Men's Big Guns can be taken out by a rock to the head, because most of them do not have enhanced durability.
  • Most of the X-Men haven't really changed for years. I would actually argue that Scott showed more character development than most of them: there is a clear progression from awkward teen, to responsible field leader, to team leader/officer, and his various roles, and I think many writers spent more time with him across the years exploring his thoughts. He grew a lot under Claremont's pen, and it was he who defended the new roster (Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, etc.) against Xavier when he pointed out that they were adults, and needed to be treated/trained as such.

Basically, none of the senior team members have any standing in this argument and most are "guilty" of the same "offenses" this writer claims Cyclops committed.

I think it's a shame that one of the most stable and responsible characters in the team is considered "mean" or a "douche" when he is basically the only one addressing both the team's core and overall mission at this point.

#3 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not sure if an alcoholic should be drinking wine or champagne O_O.

Wow, Marvel is full of douches these days.

#5 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

@sky_fire said:

This one I don't even feel should be explained, but we all know Cyclops as the boy scout turned to militant leader of the mutant race. He's a douchebag who may be a hero though not the kind you really care to fight along side. I wouldn't mind doing the world that one favor and removing a mutant from existence.

I think Captain America/Steve Rogers, Wolverine, Storm, Beast, Iron Man, and Scarlet Witch look like the real douchebags in all of this. As far as I can see, Cyclops is the only person actually doing anything about the problems he sees. Everyone else is taking it easy with a hands off/full blame on approach. Standing on the sidelines, and critiquing anyone who does something does not a hero make.

#6 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

@koays said:

Them?

I hope that's Storm's new look, because her current look with the mohawk mop head and the tuxedo-ish costume just don't work for me. I think it's Medusa, though, based on hair length and costume design, despite the coloring.

#7 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see why Illyana would seek revenge on Doom though, unless I've missed something?

I mean, it would be cool if it were her and would make sense considering how she's evolving in Uncanny X-men, but I don't quite understand that part.

Maybe it is because he tapped into the power source that gave the Scarlet Witch access to chaos magic/lifestream/whatever, which drove her crazy and made her depower so many mutants so he is indirectly responsible for M Day.

#8 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

That cover yuck

That cover is pretty horrendous. I believe it's a combination of two different artists' renderings.

#9 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

I really think they should institute a policy where you can't post until you've read a few threads or answer questions. It might get rid of the bots that generate these messages.

#10 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3582 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm with the Hellfire Club.