Man, this is suppose to be about Thor and Helspont. Not Superman(Don't know why everyone keeps bringing up his crap). I can't really decided a winner since both can be extremely strong, I guess it depends if Helspont can tank a Godblast.

Against juggernaut it was, against dark god who stole odins power who's name i cannot recall it was, thats all the proof i need, and no, i'm not, i just think you are underestimating thor, the guy who can match a bloodlusted silver surfer on a bad day

@patrat18:

Which is immposible, because they don't have to share the same stats, ergo being with powers and stats of both these people was never a part of any battle.

The all apply. It's Helspont new 52, with pre 52 and new 52 feats.

Two different stats, feats etc.

This ability was never used in battle, so that's irrelevant. I know Marvel never retconed their universe,but the title clearly says Thor Marvel now. He didn't use Gblast against Void or Gorr, i don't see him using it here. I think you are seriously underestimating a guy who can go toe to toe with Mr Majestic. Helspont

Point? it will take 3 helsponts or more to take gorr.

And when gorr attacked the there was no shockwaves, he just sent his black berserker into thor with each attack, turning into maggots eating his flesh, which is why he weakened so much, his attacks were the ones busting up moons and planets, you think he cant use his winds of 1000 worlds to pwn helspont, you think a godblast will merely be flicked away when a weakened one pushed a moving juggernaut back, you think that the anti force that one shotted magnog, the geo force that would knock out ego etc, dont make helspont out to be glory, gorr, juggernaut, galactus, silver surfer or ego, because those are the characters a bloodlusted thor can beat

No

Exactly, i give thor feats involving gorr and somehow it's gorr vs helspont

helspont easily

Is it really hard to read the op?Gorr Is not even in this fight.

New and pre 52 Helspont.

It is pretty unfair to put New Helspont here, when he barely have any feats. Yeah, he can be stronger than Thor, but for us he still isn't able to take any blast of energy projection.

@sebast_allen: Most of that power was coming from Gorr. The more Thor hit Gorr the more he broke his hand and his body. It took 3 Thor's including a skyfather to beat Gorr.

People saying Thor, you can't possibly be assuming Thor > Mr Majestic.

Go back to page 1 and read my paragraph

Thor.

What else?

But thats gorr not helspont, anyway, what about everything else i said?

The problem with comparing Thor to anyone is that he jobs in most of his non-title comics. In the Thor titles, which most people don't read, writers like JMS and Jason Aaron have portrayed the character really well.

As for who wins, if we're taking all high end feats into account, I'd go Thor.

Not really since it took 3 Thors to hurt Gorr, and everytime Thor hit Gorr he was breaking his hand and damaging his body.

Thor, i have said why, anyone who defends gor go back to my post and adress every reason i said thor wins

Helspont

Helspont wins.

Ah okay, cool. Thanks man.

No no, your correction was spot on. What Thor absorbed was indeed the power of the god bomb, while i said God Blood. I stand corrected there.

God Blood is what actually fuels the bomb, and the black goo was called Annihilablade, that was me just giving out un-necessary details :)

I should have known better than to attempt to correct you, haha.

Thor.

The weapon itself was called God Bomb by Gorr, it was powered by God Blood, thats what powers up Gorr and everything related to him, and why he progressively grew stronger.

The weapon was actually given an official name much later as "Annihilablade, the all black necrosword"

Yes it was.

Wasn't it called the God Bomb? sorry if I'm wrong but that's what I recall.

Helspont is a beast, but I think he's > Glory, .... atm I think Thor takes this.

Thor.

Well then, that's a completely different story.

Im going to post what i said why thor wins in another thread...

Right now incomics thor would win, the feats he has displayed throughout his marvel NOW career have been amazing

Thor has shown himself to be quite fast recently and h'el has not yet let loose speed blitsing that thor couldnt react to.He was going up against people like apocolypse before mjolnir, he made it rain fire/lightning without it, he hit a guy so hard a black hole formed, he one shotted the guy with lightning while thor was near death (this guy he one shotted killed thousands of gods) without the hammer and he fought inside the sun without the hammer. He beats the shitaki mushrooms out of h'el with his large hammer or chops h'el up and fries him with jarnborn (he butchered apocolypse with it). And all the above feats were a young thor who hasnt discovered his true power. And thor's fighting skills are legend, using speed would be a Good arguement. Though i recall thor tagging loki who was said to be as fast as thought with his hammer by throwing it as fast as light. And he can go much faster as he travels lightyears in seconds. So he can throw it at it's travel speeds at h'el and he can make it follow him till it tags him (mjolnir outraced surfer at top speeds). He also has area of attack moves like his wind of 1000 worlds to shred h'el.He can also absorb h'el's heat vision and send it back 100 times as strong. He could also absorb supes solar energy like he absorbed kang the conqurers energies.

Yip, but thor wins in a tough battle, the power he has been showing is amazing, fighting in suns, hitting so hard planets crack and wormholes form. Fixing planets via earth manipulation, one shotting gorr with lightning while thor was near death, butchering apocolyose, making solar storms to make his ship move faster than light, make it rain lightning and fire, easily destroying gigantic chunks of moon, being referred to as either a world breaker/world killer. Hurting the starbrand user. Thor wins....


And mjolnir can fight of h'els matter manipulation.

I'm sorry, but helspont loses.

@deranged_midget: Helspont gets both pre and new 52 feats for this thread.

Helsont hasn't displayed any feast since the Superman annual and correct me if I'm wrong, but he hasn't even shown up since then. Thor has some pretty impressive feats from God Bomb that would give him a decent chance against Helspont despite him still remaining relatively featless for the most part in the New 52.

@shazam117: Awesome post, though one problem, thor doesnt require mjolnir, it is just a way to focus his innate powers better

"whoever so wields this hammer shall have the power of thor" , not the hammer, it just draws upon thor's power to work like it does.

@killemall: @chiq: 100% agree with Killemall. THOR: God of Thunder is MARVEL's best book out imo. Everything from the writing to the stunning artwork.

I just finishing reading iss#11, the conclusion to the Gorr/Godbomb story arc and it was epic and really showed what current Thor is capable of and can withstand. Tho current Thor is the same Thor since 62' or whenever he debuted since MARVEL never rebooted.

I'd say reading the Godbomb arc, Thor would put up WAY more of a fight against Helspont than Supes did. Supes basically tried to brawl with Helspont and got back-handed to the moon for his troubles. Thor brings a lot more to the fight with Mjolnir.......IF uses it properly like he's shown recently

@chiq: Glad to help, although be warned first couple of issues are not as intense, it can be boring and hard to follow. Its really grips after a while once we get more into who Gorr is and what his plans are.

@killemall: Yeah, i have been hearing good things about that story line, I might check it out. Thanks a lot.

@chiq: Most of this was accomplished by younger version of Thor, before he even this Mjolnir, which was impressive. The God Blood was accomplished by Thor (current, so 3 Thors: young Thor, Avengers Thor and King Thor, hehe pretty cool idea aye?)

Its hard to say what it is, its a bomb thats what it was , a bomb that was going to kill every gods in every universe, and Thor just absorbed it all, i assuming its showing of both durability (because gods were getting KOed/ killed just by coming in contact with it) and energy absorption.

And yes the bomb was made to only affect gods, that was Gorr's only plan because he hated gods and wanted to kill them all.

If you havent read, the 11 issues from Thor: God of Thunder has been pretty cool. I loved the idea of Gorr where most part of the story you actually understand whats happening to Gorr. He was powerful, his quest did make sense (if you have a dying family, living in a world that itself is dying, only to realise it was all because 2 gods were fighting for whatever purpose, or your whole life you have only seen people kill each other in the name of god, wouldnt it be logical to actually outright hate the idea of god??, thats what happened with Gorr). And ending was brilliant, how Gorr eventually sort of becomes what he always hate, he is at the end labelled God of Hypocrisy which was pretty cool.

Thor's showing in the series is vastly better than i have seen anywhere in current times.

Which version of Thor accomplished all those feats? Current Thor? Also how would you apply that god blood feat in a battle forum setting? Is is some sort of energy absorption feat? was it tailor made to just affect gods? sounds uber...

Shame the thread has gone a bit hostile i was hoping to try and put scans in.

Thor run in Thor: God Of Thunder has been pretty cool in terms of power, from nearly destroying the planet as a side effect of the fight with Gorr, being able to hold the entire planet together with Earth manipulation, having hit Gorr had enough to create a wormhole in the sky, being able to absorb god blood which was powerful enough to destroy gods in every universe in the entire marvel multiverse, his feat here has been significantly better than his feats elsewhere.

@enzeru: You insane? Helspont fights Mr. Majestic on a regular basis, Helspont is easily Thor's equal.

Care to explains why you believe New 52 Superman is hyped up? Also, can you expand upon why you think those one-off feats for Thor really count? The way I see it, his more 'out of there' cosmic feats are......'out of there'. He performs some ridiculous feat, much like Superman, but then does nothing to back it up. And then, just like Superman fanboys, its hyped up to crazy levels. Like Marvel Now Thor is not as impressive as he's being portrayed on the 'vine now. So, I would just like some scans and explanations please.

Um, what just happened? Never mind. Don't tell me.

Action_Comics_Vol_1_663 - The sun eater was considerably larger than a star, had been in existence for millenia and had consumed the energy of many stars by travelling from galaxy to galaxy. Superman was at ground zero, sending him to another time as a result while the onlooking legionaries found no trace of him.

If you were me, you'd actually get taken seriously .... anyone with half a brain? that a lot of half brained people then....I don't care if they take me seriously or not, they take me seriously because I'm right more than I'm wrong.

@enzeru: I'm glad you've responded with an immature gif since that means I don't have to waste my time aimlessly arguing with you.