right you are sir

@ancient_0f_days: Lmao still isnt a VALID REASON. Im sorry but you just quoted what jas been said and ill say it one more time in case you're illiterate. THIS IS WBH!

@ancient_0f_days: This is not a debate, its turned into a silly argument

Do you know what a complete corps and nearly infinite power from the orange lantern can do ? Larfleeze has far too much power for Hulk to compete.

Isn't a valid reason cus you say it isn't?

You're telling me, some people said "Hulk wins cus he's never lost yet lol (cept when Zues trashed him, but that's just Zues)...he's never lost and that's why he wins"..... silly indeed, you hit the nail on the head

@cheesesticks: Its been stated that Hulk has the potential for limitless energy. That was regular or any other incarnation of Hulk. This is World Breaker Hulk, he doesn't need the "potential" for limitless energy when he has it at his finger tips without any control. The energy output has destroyed a planet and a moon with one punch. RIGHT THERE, outclasses any scans you have of Larfleeze showing his energy manipulation until proven otherwise. Strength, durability and healing factor I wont count because Im sure who has that department down. Look, you want Larfleeze to win then PROVE he can I have no problem taking my statements back and saying Larfleeze wins if you can prove he can. ATM WBH IS PIS, I've been arguing that for about three days. Any incarnation of hulk can lose to ANYONE but this is WBH, I am sorry but Larfleeze doesnt take this.

#1 rules for Hulk fans.. Never challenge the status quo even if its wrong !

@ancient_0f_days: I think with the Zeus fight Hulk was only trying to prove a point, but Hulk has lost more than a few over the years.There is always a bigger fish.

@ancient_0f_days: Strength wise Hulk had him but yes I do agree that HULK LOST! He got outclassed. Now imagine if it was WBH vs Zeus I bet you'd be like: "Well Zeus won the first time it doesn't matter if this is WBH or not."

Basically, because WBH never lost, you think he can beat everyone ? Yeah WBH would beat Galactus because he never lost. Your argument is so good. If Havok can put Hulk down, Larfleeze would beat Hulk. Hulk destroyed a plantet and a moon.. So what ?? Larfleeze has beat every guardians who are all planet buster, just like Hulk.

That there is....and Larfleeze is a perfect example as well, he's one of the biggest fish there is (as far as lantern's go).

@cheesesticks: Im sure he would lose to Galactus man you're not seeing my point. Oh btw, again, destroyed two planet sized objects WITH A PUNCH! Your Lanterns could bust a planet why not but can they do it with minimal effort. Thr Gathet thing about cutting a planet in half with a thought I would have to see a scan of that.

@cheesesticks: Also, that was Hulk.... Not WBH....

@ancient_0f_days: I never hear too much about Larfleeze, ionly know of a few feats is he a big character?

@calrissian89:

Look man.. You're fighting a losing battle ! I congratulate you for standing up for Hulk because we know with all his past feats multipled over by WBH level power.. He can survive or win this battle... They don't understand that though.. They don't want to understand it ! This is Comic Vine ! Logic doesn't matter when it's DC vs Marvel ! They're not going to listen ! Live to fight another day !

Yeah, lantern corps have thousands of members normally....he is the only member of his corps cus he killed and absorbed everyone of his. He keeps his powerbattery so close to himself that his power outmatches that of the Guardians of the Universe, his constructs are living beings and cannot be destroyed unless something disrupts his power source. He is a one man corps, the GLs can't even touch him.

@imnemothegemini: NO! They KEEP forgetting it's WBH and not the other incarnations. IF IT WAS any other incarnation I have NO problem admitting defeat but since this is WBH in my head I'm going to keep repeating: "You gon' learn today!"

Hey, i'm a Marvel fanboy and face it, Hulk loose. Don't try to reassure yourself because you think we are DC fanboy. Go on every Hulk vs someone thread and you'll see how they think.

@imnemothegemini: I have to agree, although i believe Hulk would win, i know i couldn't convince anyone otherwise, so i don't bother trying.

@calrissian89: Your a good fan, i can appreciate that being Hulk fan myself but i think its time to gracefully move on now son.

@cheesesticks:

Did I say I was a DC fan .. I don't like most of what comes from DC aside from a couple things ! But I know the characters what they can do and what their potential is ! You on the other hand don't really know the what Hulk is capable of !

http://www.comicvine.com/hulk/4005-2267/forums/what-makes-the-hulk-incredible-749271/#26

Here visit this respect page and educate yourself ! Then come back and whole heartedly say Lafeeez could beat a Severly amp'd hulk.. So amp'd that a single punch makes a planet vaporize ! Go ahead !

@imnemothegemini: why don't you post Hulk punching and vaporizing a planet....on his own, no red she hulk helping him out....I'll wait

I read Hulk since 2004, i know what he can do. It's just not enough against Larfleeze.

They weren't in his corps to begin with

@imnemothegemini: wbh is lower than supermans level right now new 52,superman can punch destroy a planet with one punch, i want an explanation of how hulk wins this, explain to me how cause the only argument im hearing for wb hulk is "oh he never lost never i tell you". the guardians are all planet busters by them selves,larfleez was abel to take them all on and win what don't you guys get about that?

@dondave: they are now....

@ancient_0f_days:

So it isn't in a Red Hulks power set to drain off the energies of their opponent or am I wrong ? I'll wait ! Yeah ! She was Severly amp'd off His gamma energy ! Not her own ! Red She Hulk is barely stronger than She Hulk without amping ! It's laughable that you'd even conceive Ref She Hulk could aid in destroying half a planet ! If that's the case:. Everytime Hulk an Thor clash.. Volcanoes should erupt ! Ahh man please remove that weak stuff from this thread !

@patrat18:

Back up.. Hol up... Repeat that.. Superman new 52 can destroy a planet on one punch ? When did this happen ? When was it shown or even stated cause lifting strength does not equal striking strength ! If you can back up your claim of Supes punching out planets then we can move forward !

I know, but it seem you said he killed all the other Orange Lanterns so he could become the only one, My Bad

@patrat18: In Superman unchained #2 he had trouble taking down a man made machine, it smashed him to the floor as he flew against it,the lifting feat is impressive but new 52 Supes isn't that much to talk about yet.

@imnemothegemini: im pretty sure this wayy more than enough to bust a planet 1,050,014,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 strength

http://www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/i-calculated-how-strong-superman-is-new-52-751618/

@mrphoenix: http://www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/i-calculated-how-strong-superman-is-new-52-751618/

yea i read it he was holding back worried about the building that was falling in mere seconds he wasen't even struggling ??

@imnemothegemini: u mad bro? Show me Hulk obliterating a planet without help from others...

If Hulk was going to destroy the planet himself, he would have done it and Pak would have made him do so. Instead, he needed an amped Red She-Hulk on par with him both going all out. The feat IS a dual feat and there is no getting around that. This isn't to say Hulk can't bust a planet on his own after a few hits give or take, but as far as we are concerned, to do what happened like how it happened, he needed her.

@patrat18:

That calculation is a fallacy ! I can bench 100 pounds repeatedly over 30 times until I break a sweat ! But I max out at 235 1 time ! Lifting weights doesn't work like the way he explained ! And again.. Lifting strength does not equal striking strength in the slightest !

@patrat18: well i guess that makes sense.

@imnemothegemini: im done

@ancient_0f_days:

Lol not at all.. I find it quite comical you believe Red She Hulk was actually needed to destroy the planet ! I mean sure.. She was there.. Yes she was amp'd to the high heavens.. But of who's power.. Armageddon ?? No... Umar.. No.. Doc strange.. No ! Wendigi/bibeast ?? Nawl.. I'm pretty sure it was all from Hulk.. Any energy that went into destroying that planet was from HULK and HULK alone ! All his power.. Ima make sure you get this ! She was absorbing his ambient energy.. An he still had way more than she could even absorb since she died in the first explosion, while Hulk awaited their return.. Now lets recap.. Was it a duel feat ? Not really since Hulk hit Her and not each other ! But who's power was used to destroy the planet ? Hulks ! Now take what you've learned today and you'll make a hundred on your next test !

doesn't sound like 100% to me, you win grains of salt.....

Larfleeze wins

@patrat18:

Lol I know this is comics but that can't be taken as 100% true ! Supes did what he did 5 days straight easily.. So I k ow his max out is far beyond the weight of the earth ! FAR BEYOND.. But he hasn't shown planet busting feats and I'm almost positive it hasn't even been implied !

@imnemothegemini: true but he did mention that he didin't want to destroy the earth,or that he could do it in the new 52 i just don't have the scan.

@ancient_0f_days: The fact is you stated Hulk had trouble with people who absorb energy. Okay... Red She Hulk absorbs energy, GOT AMPED TO HIS "POTENTIAL".. Still lost. World Breaker Hulk wins?

@ancient_0f_days:

Take my words and twist them ! Well I KNOW it was all from Hulk ! His energy.. His power .. His explosion ! End of story ! Now that I'm done with that.. Larfleeze wins :P ! Ahahahahahahah he could easily BFR if that doesn't work.. They won't even have a planet to fight on since it'll be gone after the first 10 seconds of the fight !

/end thread !

wait, so are you saying Betty is as good at absorbing energy as Larfleeze? LOL I hope not cus you'd have to prove it, and we all know how good you are at that

lucky for larfleeze he can fly in space and tanks planet level explosions easily....

Hulk can't even defend himself in space lol....

Larfleeze wins

1 - If you don't disagree with the underlying premise, why are you going on and on arguing? I don't care if you can show the constructs getting destroyed because of Relic, Larfleeze, or some other random reason. They can be broken and that was he entire argument.

2 - I do have the book. (a) I do not have photographic memory. (b) My comics are unorganized and going through them to prove a point is near impossible, so I do rely on he internet more than I should (c) then why do you imply I was purposely not including context if you knew it was unintentional? This actually leads to my next point.

3 - If you are going to be rude, please refrain from addressing me at all, for any reason.

@ancient_0f_days: Is it possible you could prove me wrong otherwise? I never stated shes as good and if she obviously isnt and YOU KNOW Larfleeze is a better energy absorber, show it.

@ancient_0f_days: I believe Hulk survived that explosion and after space.

I like Marvel waaaaay more than DC. Or rather, I grew up on Marvel and only a couple of years ago did I start picking up DC comics. I also think Marvel characters don't get enough credit on these boards. But that being said, the quote below pretty much sums this battle up in a nutshell. Larfleeze is a really tough SOB. Like, above herald level tough.

"He's soloed Guardians, Controllers, entire Lantern corps and in addition to a corps of his own, is massively juiced from spending so much time next to his battery. Normally, even skilled Lanterns would have trouble with WB Hulk IMO but Larfleeze is far and above those Lanterns so he can take this pretty handily."

Sounds fair enough. Looks like we're on the same page on this. Thanks broseph.