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Simply put, Iron Man could use every single suit of armor in his arsenal. At the same time. Kara would still not just win, it would be a stomp.

Even if he had Kryptonite, it's still pretty likely she'd win - Supergirl and Superman have both fought Kryptonite-based villains before. Metallo.... Kryptonite Man... Reactron. They still win. Supergirl beat Kryptonite Man in a stomp by simply staying out of his range and using her ranged abilities against him.

Remember, Iron Man's armor can't survive the sun's corona even, and a Kryptonian's heat vision can get hotter than the core of the sun.

That's not even taking into account superspeed, superbreath, freeze breath, etc. Oh and the massive superiority in strength.

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1) Supergirl (Kara Zor-El)

She Hulk loses horribly even using both arms against one of Kara's while she's barely paying attention and She-Hulk is wearing the jupiter suit

2) Supergirl (Linda Danvers)

The only DC character listed here which would not be a total embarrassment for She-Hulk. She-Hulk would still lose, but it wouldnt be nearly as one-sided. Linda was only about half as strong as Kara. Which is still insanely strong, though.

3) Wonder Woman

See the Kara Zor-El description. Pretty much the same result though Wonder Woman would probably be paying attention

4) Red She-Hulk

Depends on if She-Hulk is wearing the Jupiter Suit or not. Probably the most even matchup in this list

5)Thing (BG)

She-Hulk would win. What an embarrassing predicament!

6)Iron Man (non Hulk-buster)

She-Hulk would not only win, she'd win even if he did have Hulk-Buster armor. Hulk-Buster armor has never been particularly successful anyway. Without it, she'd break his arm.

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If Hulk was able to win once (and that's a pretty big leap to say he could), it would only be once.

The second time, and every time after that, Doomsday would win.

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She threw the match because she needed Lobo's help to find the book of destiny, and the moron wouldnt help her until he beats her in an armwrestling match. He's not happy about that fact once she finally has had enough of him and tells him that she threw the match to get him to help.

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#5  Edited By pander1

The more that I read of this thread, the more I realize that every single person who has said Thor wins, or Thor stomps, has never read a single comic book with Supergirl in it. I'm assuming they're all getting their sum total of information on Supergirl from partial scans and the Justice League cartoon.

1) Supergirl HAS been absorbing yellow sunlight for as long as Superman - plus she's been absorbing it directly, not through the Earth's atmosphere. In Modern supergirl, it's because her ship was fitted with yellow sunlight generators for 30 years. In New 52, it's because her ship was in close orbit of the sun for 30 years.

2) A sun-dipped Kryptonian is terrifyingly powerful In 15 minutes, a sun-dipped Superman was able to beat a cosmic-level villain like Imperiex, who was able to destroy Doomsday in seconds. A sun-dipped Supergirl would be just as powerful, even in a short period of time. Give her 30 minutes or more, and it would be a stomp no matter what incarnation of Thor.

3) Supergirl is, according to most in the comics, potentially stronger than, and definitely faster than, Superman. Not just according to Batman - according to Superman himself. And before anyone brings up a scan of Superman saying 'it's because I always hold back' - please read that entire comic - Superman is trying to BLUFF an evil version of Supergirl into stopping the fight - he only managed to punch her once, and she punched him several times and drew blood on him. And she was about to continue the fight. It's the good version of Supergirl in that comic that gets the evil version to stop fighting - not Superman. in about 5 other comics, Superman monologues to himself (and the readers) that Kara is faster than him and stronger than him. In the fight on Apokolips, he has to use a Kryptonite ring to beat her because, as he quotes in the monologue boxes, if he doesnt "she's going to kill him." If he was stronger, he wouldnt need a kryptonite ring to beat her.

4) Thor survived a neutron star? So has Superman (and by extension, Supergirl) - heck, they made a key for the Fortress of Solitude FROM a neutron star, since not many people other than them can lift a tiny key that weighs half a million tons. Superman (and again, by extension Supergirl) has also survived something which dwarfs the power of a neutron star - he survived a black hole.

5) Speed-wise, there's no competition. Supergirl can move at lightspeed (faster, if you include silver age, which specifically stated 18 times the speed of light). Thor can not move at those speeds. And again, before someone mentions Mjolnir opening a portal - a portal is not speed. It's the same as a boom tube in DC comics or a zeta beam. It's like pre-planned teleportation and not that useful in a fight. The only people in the entire DC universe faster than Supergirl are three of the speedsters - Flash (Barry Allen) and Flash (Wally West) and Impulse (Bart Allen). Heck, she's faster than a lot of the other Speedsters like Jessie Quick and Jay Garrick. Travel speed also, Supergirl is faster than Thor, even in the scans shown.

6) As for the person who said Supergirl has no feats - you REALLY need to some supergirl comics. She's destroyed planets larger than the earth. Without trying to. She went through a moon of Korugar and it didnt even slow her down - it's rubble now in space. And that moon was a few dozen times larger than the Earth. She had a nuclear explosion directed at her face. Survived without a scratch.

7) Can anyone be reminded that in every cross-comics match-up of Superman vs Thor, Superman has won. Hands down. And it's not like Superman doesn't lose against other people. He's been shown in his own comic and in Supergirl comics to be slower than Kara, and Batman's beaten him 3 times. He's also been beaten by Captain Marvel, and Captain Marvel and Mary Marvel have both been beaten by Supergirl in fights. Superman's been beaten by Wonder Woman (once - though she did use her tiara to cut his throat before he was about to kill her)

I know it's a thing with a lot of comic book readers - not liking the idea of a female character beating a male character. I think it might threaten the sense of male pride or something (most comic book readers are male). And they'll go to all sorts of leaps of logic to justify why any feats that prove the female character would win are PIS or CIS or a popularity contest, while ways to justify the male winning are legitimate. It's sad, really.

1) In normal state, without his hammer, it would be a STOMP - Supergirl would stomp Thor, that is. It wouldnt even be a fair fight. He needs mjolnir to make it even halfway fair (and please remember, he had Mjolnir in each of the crossovers and still lost).

2) Warrior Madness vs Sundipped - Supergirl would again stomp Thor horribly. Sun-dipping is monstrously powerful.

3) Odin Force vs Sundipping - this is the only one which seems a fair matchup, and even then, there needs to be some specifics. People keep using TOP feats of all the odin force vs sun-dipping, while not mentioning how long or short the sun-dip is. When Superman was sun-dipped for years he came out basically as God. 15 minutes he was already more powerful than Imperiex (basically think Thanos but instead of just wanting to kill all life, he wants to kill the entire universe, for those who do not know anything about DC - which seems to be a lot of people in this thread) Kryptonians are solar batteries capable of using the sun to hyper-accelerate their powers to seemingly a lot more power than the sun by itself is able to do (ie, Kryptonian heat vision is already able to be HOTTER than the core of the sun). So with this one - it depends on how long Kara was sun-dipped. It's the only fight where Thor has a chance of winning though if he's using the Odin Force at the higher levels, while Supergirl is sun-dipped for a very short period of time.

Sorry guys. I know both Thor comics and Superman/Supergirl comics, so not arguing it just from knowledge of one side.

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Molly Hayes would win. People seem to massively underestimate how strong that girl is. And she doesnt just fall asleep after using her powers. It depends on how much she uses them. And strengthwise - Molly vs Luke? She's a LOT stronger than he is, and invulnerable. She'd likely BFR him with one punch. He wouldnt be in the city after that punch - at least not the same city.

And that's not even taking into account the surprise factor of her being a little girl who does NOT look like she should be able to do stuff like that. She'd punched Wolverine blocks - not only when he wasnt prepared for her, but when he WAS. And Wolverine is a very good fighter. Yet it didnt help him when he pissed her off in the Danger Room, causing her to punch him through multiple wallls across the Xavier Institute. If he didnt have a healing factor...

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Bringing it back to the initial thing - Molly Hayes would beat Abomination. She'd kick him in the groin so hard that he'd go into orbit and he wouldnt see it coming. No one ever sees a Princess Powerful attack coming.

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PG definitely wins, despite some people's inability to cope with the idea of a female character being physically as strong as Superman - and stronger than Sentry's weak-ass feats. :)

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Sometimes I think people don't read comics when they post here.

Supergirl's already fought Bizarro. Several times. She's beaten him every single time. She's punched him and sent him flying miles and knocked him out. She's moved faster than he can react.

She's also beaten Bizarrogirl as well....with a finger flick.

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@strongestonethereis: Do your statistics hurt when they're in your butt where you obviously pulled them out of?

Even Superman has said, on more than one occasion, that Kara is a lot faster than he is. Multiple times, even in monologue. Plus there have been many times where he's said she's more powerful than he is as well. Batman's said the same thing. He needed to use a Kryptonite ring in order to beat Kara, because, and I quote "she's going to kill me" if he didnt use it. Kara has stated she's just as strong as he is, and he agreed that she is. She's stated that she's faster than he is. And he agreed. And she's shown it. So no, Kara is not 60-70% of Superman. She's 100% of superman in strength - possibly more. And 150% of Superman in speed.