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#1 Posted by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

Any evidence out there of what happens if Cyke hits one of Remy's charged cards with an optic blast? I would assume it would explode in mid-air? Just thinking over the options right now.

#2 Edited by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@owie: He never used the gas since his first appearance unless I'm missing something so I don't count that. Everything else was without a doubt prep.

Fair enough...I thought I remembered more scenes like that in other issues but I looked around and I guess not. Tech-less he is, at least without prep.

#3 Edited by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@owie said:

I'm reading the "classic" Marvel characters to just mean the normal current versions unless the OP writer wants to state otherwise. If current, then Marvel wins barely. Panther ought to have a tech advantage over Batman, and perhaps a slight skill advantage. Moon Knight vs Nightwing is a hotly debated topic, but I will take Moon Knight barely, through toughness. If we really mean "classic" Panther and Moon Knight, like 70s or 80s versions, then maybe DC. The old-school Moon Knight was pretty good, but not up to current Nightwing level I think, and old-school Panther would have less of a tech advantage.

Old school panther didn't have any tech at all.

Well, obviously nothing like he usually has now, but it's not like he had NO tech. In his original attack on the FF, he used a variety of tech to beat them. Some is arguably prep and not gear he's carrying on him, but to me at least it seems like he was carrying soem of it around and just set it up as he went along. And some is clearly part of his own gear, like the gas. He may not have used this kind of thing in every appearance but I think he would usually have at least some back up stuff.

#4 Posted by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

@owie: So is classic "standard" version or 1980's?

If standard, Panther would take a pretty big majority over either one imo. If it's 1980's, he may still win, but he just loses his gear (because IIRC he should still have the heartshaped herb).

Well, I don't know what the OP means. I would guess current.

#5 Posted by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm reading the "classic" Marvel characters to just mean the normal current versions unless the OP writer wants to state otherwise. If current, then Marvel wins barely. Panther ought to have a tech advantage over Batman, and perhaps a slight skill advantage. Moon Knight vs Nightwing is a hotly debated topic, but I will take Moon Knight barely, through toughness. If we really mean "classic" Panther and Moon Knight, like 70s or 80s versions, then maybe DC. The old-school Moon Knight was pretty good, but not up to current Nightwing level I think, and old-school Panther would have less of a tech advantage.

#6 Edited by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

Lady Bullseye's story continues in Elektra:

First, she survives being partly eaten by Bloody Lips, and then survives the crash of his plane in the Arctic. She escapes and goes after Elektra. As a member of the Assassins' Guild, she calls on them for help and extraction. However, she's out of cash and can't pay for their surgery. So they offer her a deal: they'll forgive her debts if they get to use her as an experiment, giving her some unknown metahuman powers, sort of like MGH.

She manages to track Elektra and her group down, and either kills or (more likely) forces Cape Crow and his son into tactical retreat, and then actually kills Matchmaker, who runs her own assassin's bureau. What powers did she get out of all this? We'll see, but she looks pretty awesome! I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where they're going with this.

#7 Edited by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

Elektra is now hunted down by the Assassins Guild, and in a flashback we see that she has beaten everyone who has come after her, including Blizzard, Crossbones, Shocker, Boomerang, Whiplash, Tiger Shark, Jack O'Lantern, Blackout, and Whirlwind. She even comments that these guys were all basically unworthy opponents. Now some of them are not necessarily top-level dudes, like Blizzard. But Crossbones, Jack O'Lantern, and Blackout are pretty serious. And Tiger Shark? He's nearly Namor level in strength and durability! Now we have no idea how she won these, but still, it's a pretty impressive set of battles, whatever happened.

Next she is attacked by four members of the Serpent Society: Sidewinder, Black Mamba, Anaconda, and Death Adder. She defeats them all, with some slight help from her friend Matchmaker. The Serpent Society are often seen as kind of silly due to their snake theme, but they have some serious powers. Anaconda is strong enough to hold the Thing; Black Mamba has a telepathically-seductive darkforce control, Death Adder is superhumanly fast and strong and has a poisoned tail; Sidewinder can teleport and here has a poisoned kama.

She breaks Sidewinder's jaw. Then when Mamba tries to delude her mind with her special kind of darkforce, Elektra ignores the telepathic control, saying that "no one can infiltrate my mind...when I am prepared." She clearly still retains some of her chi skills. She bites off Mamba's nose and tells Matchmaker to use her gas grenades, which drives off Anaconda. Then Elektra beats down Death Adder pretty hard without getting hit once herself. She smacks Sidewinder around some more and crushes his leg (sucks to be Sidewinder!), then when Anaconda comes back she stabs her with Sidewinder's poisoned kama. Matchmaker then knocks out Black Mamba with a punch.

So overall, we got a new long list of metahumans Elektra has taken out.

#8 Posted by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops vs Cardiac?

#9 Posted by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n will there still be another Cyclops battle next week? I'd like to see something along the lines of a Cyclops vs Dazzler. Or for the hell of it Cyclops as P5 vs Dazzler as Galactus Herald? :) Actually I've got dibs on making that one!

#10 Edited by Owie (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

@thorboy: "...why tell a story no new fan should care about..."

I think you answered your own question :) Namely "new fans", or the lack there of. This current run of Guardians is not doing so great (the last 2 issues have been the only ones to break the top 5 on Comixology's best seller list). The pre-MarvelNOW cosmic titles (Nova, Guardians, Silver Surfer, Inhumans, etc.) all had pretty dedicated followings that had no where to go when MarvelNOW launched. I don't think Guardians is getting any "carryover" from the success of the movie, so the next best thing would be to try and lure old fans back.

I'm glad you're holding out hope (someone should). But given Bendis' interviews leading up this storyline (he pretty plainly states that Rich Rider fans are not going to like the way this story ends) I think the days are numbered for Nova.

I looked it up and the last several issues have all been selling in the 50-60,000 range, that's actually pretty good. It's pretty impressive for any comic to break the top 5, so having 2 get in there seems like a pretty solid record, actually. How is it not doing so great?