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Revamped List of All Owie's Battles: by Character, H-L

I’ve always kept a list of all the battles I created and I posted it as a blog at the end of my first and second years on the Vine. At that point I made an average of a hundred battles a year. Since then I’ve fallen off some but I’m somewhere over 250 now, and I wanted to re-do my list so I can keep track of it more easily.

There are now two versions of the list. One is in another blog page and this one is broken down into multiple blog pages (it's too long to fit in one entry).

The first one (which is in another entry by itself) lists all my battles, categorized by power level: Streetlevel(ish), Mid-Tier, and Cosmic, plus separate categories for my Bracket Battles and for battles that are themed or intentionally goofy. In this list, each battle is listed only once.

The second one (which is on this page and continues on other pages) is categorized by character. It lists every character I’ve ever used in a battle, and under each character is a list of all the battles I’ve used them in. So for instance all the battles that I made using Devil-Slayer are listed under Devil-slayer. This file lists each battle multiple times, since each battle is listed separately under each character in that battle. So for instance "Darkdevil vs Devil-Slayer" is listed under both Darkdevil and Devil-slayer.

This page goes from H to L.

In this second list, I occasionally put listed battles under teams or universes rather than characters. So for instance, all battles involving a member of Power Pack can be found under Power Pack, all Grendel-related battles are under Grendel Universe, etc.

I’ll be updating these lists periodically for my own use. I hope you enjoy perusing them and please consider commenting on or bumping a battle. Thanks!

H-L

Hairball

Dex-Starr vs Hairball vs Streaky

Hammer and Anvil

Battle among Scourge's victims

Hammer and Anvil vs Fenris

Hammer and Anvil vs Wrecking Crew

Hammerhead

Spider-man Villains

Bushman vs Crossbones vs Hammerhead

Hand Ninja

One Stormtrooper vs One Hand Ninja

Who could one Hand Ninja beat in a majority of fights?

Old Guard (NF) vs Nobu and 4 Hand ninjas

Hank Pym

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Giant guys (and gals) wild rumpus!

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

Power Pack vs Original Avengers

Spider-Man vs Hank Pym

Harley Quinn

Kim Possible runs a gauntlet (Harley Quinn, classic Bucky, Stephanie Brown)

Alana and Marko (Saga) vs Jack O'Lantern and Harley Quinn

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Miles and Kamala vs Deathstroke and Harley Quinn

What If Captain Carter runs a female live action gauntlet

Harpoon

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

Classic Marauders vs an X-Force team

Classic Marauders vs some Guardians of the Galaxy

Classic Marauders vs a GI Joe/Cobra team

Classic Marauders vs Mutant Force and Friends

Harridan

Classic Marauders vs Mutant Force and Friends

Hate-Monger

Battle among Scourge's victims

Havok

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

Summers Siblings vs Rasputin Siblings

Hawkeye

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

H2H Bracket Battle: Cruiserweights (60-85 tons)

Giant guys (and gals) wild rumpus!

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

Inner Circle (The Gifted) vs MCU Avengers

Hawkman

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Headmen

Headmen vs Super-Apes

Ruby Thursday vs Devil-slayer

Hela

Annihilators vs Cosmic Villains

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

Hellcat

Hellcat vs Mockingbird

Hellcat vs Prowler

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs All-Female Team (Batgirl, Hit Girl, Mockingbird, Black Widow)

Ben (LOST) and Hellcat vs Thin Man and Fancy Dan

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Cyclops vs Hellcat (H2H only)

MCU: Daredevil & Patsy Walker on Reds vs Batroc & Gladiator

MCU: Hope van Dyne vs Trish "Patsy" Walker

Huntress & Batgirl vs Echo & Hellcat

MCU: Hellcat vs Mayhem

Trish Walker on Red Pill vs Trish Walker with Hellcat powers (MCU)

Batwoman (CW) vs Hellcat (NF)

Tigra and Hellcat vs White Tiger and Black Cat

Kate Bishop and Squirrel Girl vs Hellcat and Yelena Belova

Madame Masque, Black Krrsantan, Hellcat vs Prowler, Karnak, Magik

Hellrazor

Battle among Scourge's victims

He-Man

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Hercules

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

Insane Donald Blake vs Mr. Hyde, Abomination, Namor, Hercules, Drax

Hermione

Live Action Magic-Users: Sofina/Hermione/Magik vs Morgan Le Fay/Ana Helstrom/Sylvie

High Evolutionary

Overmind vs High Evolutionary

Korvac vs High Evolutionary vs Stranger

Jack of Hearts vs High Evolutionary

Hijacker

Battle among Scourge's victims

Hit Girl

Team from LOST (Sayid, Keamy, Ben, Locke, Mikhail) vs Hit Girl, Red Hood, Comedian, Dwight from Sin City, Stephanie Brown

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs All-Female Team (Batgirl, Hit Girl, Mockingbird, Black Widow)

Batwoman vs Hit Girl

Komodo/Emiko vs Big Daddy/Hit Girl

One-time Amps Bracket Battle #1: Low

Legolas and Tauriel vs Hit Girl and Emil Blonsky

MCU Black Sky Elektra vs Hit Girl on Adrenaline vs Khan

Shang-Chi and Xialing vs Number Five and Hit-Girl

Hit Monkey

Captain Carter runs an accumulation gauntlet

Hobgoblin (all versions)

All versions of the Sinister Six vs Each Other

Villains royal rumble: Team 1 (Mr. Freeze, Pyro, Grievous, Kraven, Dr. Octopus) VS Team 2 (Constrictor, Death Adder, Electro, Sandman, Hobgoblin) VS Team 3 (Lizard, Morbius, Mysterio, Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett)

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Spiders vs Goblins version 1

Spiders vs Goblins version 2

Spider-man Villains

Hooded Justice

Old Guard vs Watchmen team

Hope Summers

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Hope van Dyne

MCU: Hope van Dyne vs Trish "Patsy" Walker

Hornet

Spider-man Allies

Hotspur

Hotspur vs Eye Killer

Howling Commandoes

Cobra team vs Nick Fury and the Howling Commandoes

Hulk

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Power Pack vs Original Avengers

Kevin Matchstick runs the gauntlet (Tombstone, Scorpion, Warpath, Wrecker, Ares, Hulk)

MCU versions of the actual comics Defenders vs MCU villains

Inner Circle (The Gifted) vs MCU Avengers

Human Cannonball

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Human Fly

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Human Torch

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

Huntarr

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Huntress

Miles Morales vs Bengal, Fancy Dan, Huntress

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Huntress & Batgirl vs Echo & Hellcat

Hyperion

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

Annihilators vs Ultimates and Squadron Supreme

Iceman

Team Saga vs Original X-men

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

Ikari

Shaolin Cowboy vs Ikari

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

Ikari and Moon Knight vs Lady Bullseye and Black Widow

Master Izo and Stick vs Ikari and Kirigi

Aka, Tekagi, Shingen vs Drake, Ikari, Ogun

Ikaris

Firelord vs Ikaris

Sunturion and Damian Hellstrom vs Ikaris and Wiccan

Blastaar and Radioactive Man vs Skurge and Ikaris

Ikon the Space Knight

Annihilators vs Ultimates and Squadron Supreme

Impossibles

Powerpuff Girls vs Impossibles

In-Betweener

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

Incredibles

H2H Bracket Battle: Heavyweights (90-100 tons)

Tech Bracket Battle # 3: Medium-Power Robots

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Power Pack vs the Incredibles

Infinity Gems

6 Cosmic Cubes vs 6 Infinity Gems (separated)

Inhumans (MCU)

MCU Eternals vs MCU Inhumans

Inspector Gadget

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Iron Clad

H2H Bracket Battle: Cruiserweights (60-85 tons)

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Iron Fist

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

High street/low mid MCU: Netflix vs movies vs TV pairs

Movie Scott Pilgrim vs NF Iron Fist

Wolverine, Iron Fist, Captain America vs Lizard, Tombstone, Kraven

Iron Giant

Tech Bracket Battle # 4: High-Power Robots

Iron Lad

Iron Lad vs Noh-Varr

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Iron Man

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Power Pack vs Original Avengers

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

Iron Man vs Rogue tag team

Tech Bracket Battle # 6: Low-Power Armor

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Inner Circle (The Gifted) vs MCU Avengers

Iron Monger

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Iron Patriot

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Izo (Master Izo)

Master Izo and Stick vs Ikari and Kirigi

Jackal

Spider-man Villains

Jack of Hearts

Jack of Hearts and Devil-Slayer vs Omega the Unknown and Typhoid Mary

Jack of Hearts vs Captain Mar-vell

Jack of Hearts vs High Evolutionary

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Jack O’Lantern

Alana and Marko (Saga) vs Jack O'Lantern and Harley Quinn

Team Grendel vs Team Other: Hunter Rose vs Daredevil, Christine Spar vs Mockingbird, Brian Li Sung vs Kick Ass, Eppy Thatcher vs Jack O’Lantern

Eppy Thatcher vs Jack O'Lantern

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Spiders vs Goblins version 1

Spiders vs Goblins version 2

Jackpot

Spider-man Allies

Jane Foster

Domino vs Jane Foster as Valkyrie

Jean Grey

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Team Saga vs Original X-men

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

Jeffrey Mace

MCU Cap goes through enhanced Agents of Shield gauntlet

SHIELD: Ruby and Zabo vs Mace and Ivanov

Jeffrey Mace vs John Walker (MCU)

Jessica Drew

Spider Ladies vs Asgardian Ladies

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Spiders vs Goblins version 1

Spiders vs Goblins version 2

Jessica Jones

Counting Coup: Jessica Jones vs Spider-Man

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Smiths vs Joneses: Agent Smith, Cats Eye, Boom Boom, Red Tornado, Red Skull vs Jessica Jones, Alejandra Jones, Firestar, Casey Jones, Rick Jones as A Bomb

Jessica Jones vs Letha

Jessica Jones vs Kamala Khan

Jessica Jones and Nuke vs Gamora and Drax (all MCU)

MCU: DD, Nuke, Jessica Jones vs Black Widow, Crossbones, Gamora

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

Spider-man Allies

Number One (Umbrella Academy) vs Jessica Jones

MCU: WWBN and Elsa vs Jessica Jones and Peggy Carter

Jigsaw/Billy Russo

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Jimmy Woo

A GI Joe team vs a SHIELD team

Jocasta

Tech Bracket Battle # 2: Low-Power Robots

John Diggle

"Hobbit" Dwarves vs Live Action Comic Team

John Garrett (SHIELD)

MCU Cap goes through enhanced Agents of Shield gauntlet

Joker

Nolan Batman vs Nicholson Joker

One-time Amps Bracket Battle #1: Low

Joaquin Phoenix Joker vs Paul Dano Riddler

Jonah Hex

Jonah Hex vs Judge Dredd

Jonah Hex vs Punisher

Guns A'Blazin' Bracket Battle

Jonah (Runaways)

2005/7 FOX DR. Doom vs Jonah (Runaways)

Jubilee

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Judge Dredd

Guns A'Blazin' Bracket Battle

Jonah Hex vs Judge Dredd

Scalphunter and Judge Dredd vs Paladin and Nick Fury

Comedian and Judge Dredd vs Punisher and Chewbacca (movies)

Juggernaut

"Unbeatable" characters (Mangog/Trion Juggernaut/Lobo/Doomsday/Mr Majestic/Galactus-Seed Destroyer/Terminus/Kal Kent)

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

Julia Carpenter

Spider Ladies vs Asgardian Ladies

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Spiders vs Goblins version 1

Spiders vs Goblins version 2

Justice Peace

Justice Peace vs Death's Head

Kahhori

Kahhori attacks Kamar-Taj

Kalibak

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Kal Kent

"Unbeatable" characters (Mangog/Trion Juggernaut/Lobo/Doomsday/Mr Majestic/Galactus-Seed Destroyer/Terminus/Kal Kent)

Kaluu

Sorcerer Bracket Battle

Kamala Khan

Kamala Khan vs Bombshell

Kamala Khan vs Toad

Jessica Jones vs Kamala Khan

Miles Morales & Kamala Khan vs Pet Avengers, all bloodlusted

Miles and Kamala vs Deathstroke and Harley Quinn

Kamar-Taj

Kahhori attacks Kamar-Taj

Kang

Kang vs King Loki (prep)

Karli Morganthau

Gravik (Skrull) vs Karli Morganthau

Karnak

Karnak vs Mantis

Kraven vs Karnak

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Moon Knight vs Karnak

Lady Bullseye, Elektra, Black Widow vs Black Knight, Crossbones, Karnak

All-MCU: Triton, Karnak, Auran vs Mockingbird, Daredevil, Black Widow

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

Madame Masque, Black Krrsantan, Hellcat vs Prowler, Karnak, Magik

Karnilla

Sorcerer Bracket Battle

Morgan Le Fay vs Karnilla

Katana

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Kate Bishop

Live action: Kate Bishop and Echo vs Jyn Erso and Bo-Katan

Kate Bishop and Squirrel Girl vs Hellcat and Yelena Belova

Ka-Zar

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

Red Sonja vs Ka-Zar and The Phantom

Ka-Zar vs Black Knight

Kazimierz Kazimierczak

Kazimierz Kazimierczak vs Madame Masque

Kerry Loudermilk (Legion)

"Hobbit" Dwarves vs Live Action Comic Team

Old Guard vs Misfit Live Action team

Khan

Serpentor vs Khan (Star Trek reboot)

Deathstroke vs "John Harrison" (Star Trek: Into Darkness) (Khan)

MCU Gamora vs John Harrison/Khan

MCU Black Sky Elektra vs Hit Girl on Adrenaline vs Khan

Kick Ass

"Hobbit" Dwarves vs Live Action Comic Team

Old Guard vs Misfit Live Action team

Killer Shrike

Scarlett and Vigilante vs Prowler and Killer Shrike

Streetlevel Villains Team 1 (Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett, Lizard, Kraven, Killer Shrike) VS Team 2 (Grim Reaper, Swordsman, Sauron, Morbius, Scorpion)

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Killmonger

High street/low mid MCU: Netflix vs movies vs TV pairs

Kim Possible

Kim Possible and Jackie (Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters) vs Gwen Tennyson and Cerberus (H2H)

Kim Possible runs a gauntlet (Harley Quinn, classic Bucky, Stephanie Brown)

Captain Carter runs an accumulation gauntlet

Kingpin

Kingpin vs Marv (Sin City)

Team from Lost vs Street level villains (Sin Eater, Paladin, Fancy Dan, Kingpin, Firefly)

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

Prep battle: Kingpin, Ben Linus from Lost, Cigarette Smoking Man from X-Files

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Wilson Fisk (NF) vs Malcolm Merlyn (CW)--prep battle

Kingpin vs Enforcers

MCU Elektra vs MCU Wilson Fisk

MCU: Will Simpson (Nuke) vs Wilson Fisk

MCU: Stick vs Kingpin

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Mayhem (Cloak & Dagger) and Kingpin (NF) vs Molly (Runaways) and Luther (Umbrella Academy)

Kirigi

Master Izo and Stick vs Ikari and Kirigi

Gorgon, Ghost Maker, Kirigi vs Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, Silver Samurai

K.I.T.T.

Tech Bracket Battle # 2: Low-Power Robots

Klaw

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Klaw and Darth Vader vs Selene and Cloak

Knockout

Women Warriors bracket battle: Powerhouses

Komodo

Komodo/Emiko vs Big Daddy/Hit Girl

Komodo/Emiko vs Marv/Miho

Moon Knight and Rorschach vs Batgirl and Komodo

Korvac

Korvac vs High Evolutionary vs Stranger

Kraven

Domino and Kraven vs Taskmaster and Bane

Kraven vs Boba Fett

Kraven vs Karnak

Villains royal rumble: Team 1 (Mr. Freeze, Pyro, Grievous, Kraven, Dr. Octopus) VS Team 2 (Constrictor, Death Adder, Electro, Sandman, Hobgoblin) VS Team 3 (Lizard, Morbius, Mysterio, Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett)

Streetlevel Villains Team 1 (Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett, Lizard, Kraven, Killer Shrike) VS Team 2 (Grim Reaper, Swordsman, Sauron, Morbius, Scorpion)

All versions of the Sinister Six vs Each Other

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Spider-man Villains

Wolverine, Iron Fist, Captain America vs Lizard, Tombstone, Kraven

Kree Sentry

Tech Bracket Battle # 3: Medium-Power Robots

Krypto

Lockjaw vs Krypto

Kulan Gath

Kulan Gath vs Morgan Le Fay

Kung Fu Panda (Po)

Kung Fu Panda vs Stitch

Kung Fu Panda and Tick vs Scott Pilgrim and Adam West Batman

Shang Chi (Secret Wars) vs Kung Fu Panda

Kurse

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Champion vs Kurse

MCU versions of the actual comics Defenders vs MCU villains

Kylun

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Lady Bullseye

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Lady Bullseye, Elektra, Black Widow vs Black Knight, Crossbones, Karnak

Lady Bullseye vs Lady Deathstrike (skills only)

Mantis vs Black Canary, Typhoid Mary, and Lady Bullseye

Ikari and Moon Knight vs Lady Bullseye and Black Widow

Punisher vs Lady Bullseye

Mystique, Lady Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike vs Tigra, Echo, Elsa Bloodstone

Lady Deathstrike

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Lady Bullseye vs Lady Deathstrike (skills only)

Cass Cain, Gamora, & Ravager vs Mantis, Elektra, & Lady Deathstrike

Mystique, Lady Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike vs Tigra, Echo, Elsa Bloodstone

Gorgon, Ghost Maker, Kirigi vs Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, Silver Samurai

Lady Shiva

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Beat my h2h All-Star Female Team (Cass Cain, Lady Shiva, Finesse, Gamora, Mantis, Red Sonja)

Lance Hunter

Old Guard (NF) Vs SHIELD Team

Lash

MCU Lash vs Whiplash

Hulu's Daimon and Ana Helstrom vs SHIELD's Lash

Leech

Thanos vs Future Foundation (prep battle)

Legion

Legion vs Firestorm

Legion vs Umar

Annihilators vs Earth Villains

Letha

Battle among Scourge's victims

Jessica Jones vs Letha

Lethal Weapon (Martin Riggs)

Four Live-Action Punishers vs 80s Action Heroes

Lex Luthor

Archvillains of DC and Marvel: Doom, Loki, Thanos, Mr. Sinister and Ultron vs Luthor, Zoom, Darkseid, Sinestro, Black Adam

Lifter

Classic Marauders vs Mutant Force and Friends

Live-wire

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Living Blade

Living Blade, Swordsman, Typhoid Mary vs Colleen Wing, Blade, Black Knight

Living Brain

Tech Bracket Battle # 2: Low-Power Robots

Living Laser

Energy Beings: Zzzax vs X-ray vs Photon vs Living Laser

Living Tribunal

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

Lizard

All versions of the Sinister Six vs Each Other

Streetlevel Villains Team 1 (Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett, Lizard, Kraven, Killer Shrike) VS Team 2 (Grim Reaper, Swordsman, Sauron, Morbius, Scorpion)

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Movie Lizard vs movie Wolverine and MCU Deathlok

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Spider-man Villains

Wolverine, Iron Fist, Captain America vs Lizard, Tombstone, Kraven

Lockjaw

Lockjaw vs Krypto

Pet Avengers vs Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters

Lobo

"Unbeatable" characters (Mangog/Trion Juggernaut/Lobo/Doomsday/Mr Majestic/Galactus-Seed Destroyer/Terminus/Kal Kent)

Lockheed

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Pet Avengers vs Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters

Loki

Adult Loki vs Adult Apocalypse

Archvillains of DC and Marvel: Doom, Loki, Thanos, Mr. Sinister and Ultron vs Luthor, Zoom, Darkseid, Sinestro, Black Adam

Kid Loki vs Kid Apocalypse

Kang vs King Loki (prep)

MCU versions of the actual comics Defenders vs MCU villains

Lord Deathstrike

Gorgon, Ghost Maker, Kirigi vs Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, Silver Samurai

Lord of the Rings

Cerebus vs Gollum

LOTR Hero Battle: Huor, Hurin, Tuor, Turin, Beren, Aragorn

Toad vs Gollum

Green Lantern Ring vs The One Ring to Rule Them All

Doom vs Frodo vs Hal Jordan: willpower battle for a GL ring

Rook/Drizzt-v-Legolas/Tauriel-v-Jack-Frost/Bunnymund

Legolas vs Nightcrawler

Palpatine vs Durin’s Bane Balrog

King Ghidorah and Destoroyah vs Smaug and Trypticon

One-time Amps Bracket Battle #1: Low

Legolas and Tauriel vs Hit Girl and Emil Blonsky

Mandarin vs Frodo and the Ringwraiths

Live Action: Bloodsport and Peacemaker vs Legolas and Dagger

Lore

Tech Bracket Battle # 1: Androids

LOST

Team from LOST (Sayid, Keamy, Ben, Locke, Mikhail) vs Hit Girl, Red Hood, Comedian, Dwight from Sin City, Stephanie Brown

Team from Lost vs Street level villains (Sin Eater, Paladin, Fancy Dan, Kingpin, Firefly)

Smoke Monster from LOST vs Mindless Ones

Prep battle: Kingpin, Ben Linus from Lost, Cigarette Smoking Man from X-Files

Ben (LOST) and Hellcat vs Thin Man and Fancy Dan

Thrawn vs Ben Linus vs Odysseus manipulation contest

Lost in Space

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Luke Cage

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Valkyrie vs Luke Cage

MCU Sif vs MCU Luke Cage

High street/low mid MCU: Netflix vs movies vs TV pairs

MCU: WWBN and Luke Cage vs Yon-Rogg and Attuma

Luminous

Luminous vs Apocalypse Twins

Lyra

H2H Bracket Battle: Heavyweights (90-100 tons)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Powerhouses

Links to the other lists:

Battles by Power Level

Battles by Character, A-C

Battles by Character, D-G

Battles by Character, H-L

Battles by Character, M-Q

Battles by Character, R-S

Battles by Character, T-Z

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Revamped List of All Owie's Battles: by Character, D-G

I’ve always kept a list of all the battles I created and I posted it as a blog at the end of my first and second years on the Vine. At that point I made an average of a hundred battles a year. Since then I’ve fallen off some but I’m somewhere over 250 now, and I wanted to re-do my list so I can keep track of it more easily.

There are now two versions of the list. One is in another blog page and this one is broken down into multiple blog pages (it's too long to fit in one entry).

The first one (which is in another entry by itself) lists all my battles, categorized by power level: Streetlevel(ish), Mid-Tier, and Cosmic, plus separate categories for my Bracket Battles and for battles that are themed or intentionally goofy. In this list, each battle is listed only once.

The second one (which is on this page and continues on other pages) is categorized by character. It lists every character I’ve ever used in a battle, and under each character is a list of all the battles I’ve used them in. So for instance all the battles that I made using Devil-Slayer are listed under Devil-slayer. This file lists each battle multiple times, since each battle is listed separately under each character in that battle. So for instance "Darkdevil vs Devil-Slayer" is listed under both Darkdevil and Devil-slayer.

This page goes from D to G.

In this second list, I occasionally put listed battles under teams or universes rather than characters. So for instance, all battles involving a member of Power Pack can be found under Power Pack, all Grendel-related battles are under Grendel Universe, etc.

I’ll be updating these lists periodically for my own use. I hope you enjoy perusing them and please consider commenting on or bumping a battle. Thanks!

D-G

Dagger

High street/low mid MCU: Netflix vs movies vs TV pairs

MCU: Cloak & Dagger vs Ghost & Ana Helstrom

Hulu MCU: Daimon & Ana Helstrom vs Nico and Chase vs Cloak & Dagger

Live Action: Bloodsport and Peacemaker vs Legolas and Dagger

Dagger (MCU) vs Diego (Umbrella Academy)

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Dagwood

Shaggy and Scooby vs Dagwood and Garfield (eating contest)

Daimon Hellstrom

Daimon Hellstrom vs Selene

Spiral vs Daimon Hellstrom

Sunturion and Damian Hellstrom vs Ikaris and Wiccan

Sorcerer Bracket Battle

Daimon Hellstrom vs Baron Mordo

Hulu Daimon Helstrom vs FOX Polaris

Hulu's Daimon and Ana Helstrom vs SHIELD's Lash

Hulu MCU: Daimon & Ana Helstrom vs Nico and Chase vs Cloak & Dagger

Daimon and Ana Helstrom vs Ronan (live action)

Dalek

Tech Bracket Battle # 2: Low-Power Robots

Damian Wayne

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

Danger

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Tech Bracket Battle # 4: High-Power Robots

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Dani Moonstar

Disir vs Team of Eleven Warriors (Valkyrie, Dani Moonstar, Acroyear, Black Tarantula, Lizard, Silver Samurai, Black Knight, Grendel Prime, Lady Deathstrike, Kit Fisto, Spiral)

Dani Moonstar (as valkyrie) runs a gauntlet: Blade, Puma, Warpath, Wrecker, Skurge

Devastator vs Way Big

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Daredevil

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Zartan vs Daredevil

Daredevil vs boneclaw/no-HF Wolverine

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Elektra (movie) vs Daredevil (Netflix)

Movie Daredevil runs a gauntlet of movie Batmans

NF Daredevil vs Philip and Elizabeth Jennings from The Americans

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

One-time Amps Bracket Battle #1: Low

MCU: Daredevil & Patsy Walker on Reds vs Batroc & Gladiator

Daredevil and Red Sonja vs Grendel and Deathstroke

MCU Daredevil and Movie Elektra vs Movie Daredevil and MCU Elektra

MCU: DD, Nuke, Jessica Jones vs Black Widow, Crossbones, Gamora

Movie Daredevil team vs Batman movies team

All-MCU: Triton, Karnak, Auran vs Mockingbird, Daredevil, Black Widow

Spiderverse Miles Morales vs movie Daredevil and Elektra

Daredevil vs Kanan Jarrus

Shang-Chi and Xialing vs Fox Daredevil and Elektra

Darkdevil

Darkdevil vs Devil-slayer

Darkdevil vs Gargoyle

Darkhawk

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Darkseid

Archvillains of DC and Marvel: Doom, Loki, Thanos, Mr. Sinister and Ultron vs Luthor, Zoom, Darkseid, Sinestro, Black Adam

Darkstar

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Darla (Marvel Knights X-Men)

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

D.A.R.Y.L.

Tech Bracket Battle # 1: Androids

Davos

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Dazzler

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #4: Very High

WOL Morg vs different set of Heralds of Galactus

D-Dog

D-Dog vs Mr. Horse

Deadpool

Classic Marauders vs an X-Force team

One-time Amps Bracket Battle #1: Low

Death Adder

Battle among Scourge's victims

Villains royal rumble: Team 1 (Mr. Freeze, Pyro, Grievous, Kraven, Dr. Octopus) VS Team 2 (Constrictor, Death Adder, Electro, Sandman, Hobgoblin) VS Team 3 (Lizard, Morbius, Mysterio, Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett)

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Death’s Head

Justice Peace vs Death's Head

Deathlok

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Movie Lizard vs movie Wolverine and MCU Deathlok

High street/low mid MCU: Netflix vs movies vs TV pairs

Death-Stalker

Battle of Intangibles

Death-Stalker vs Wolverine

Deathstroke

Deathstroke and Karnak vs Miles Morales and Boba Fett

Deathstroke vs "John Harrison" (Star Trek: Into Darkness) (Khan)

Deathstroke vs Moon Knight, Bullseye, and Bruiser

Counting Coup: Black Widow vs Deathstroke

Miles and Kamala vs Deathstroke and Harley Quinn

Elektra & Captain America vs Catwoman & Ozymandias vs Mother Russia & Deathstroke (all movies/TV)

Daredevil and Red Sonja vs Grendel and Deathstroke

Deathstroke vs Mantis, H2H/Prep rounds

Delinquent/Infant Terrible

Glorian vs Delinquent (Infant Terrible)

Destoroyah

King Ghidorah and Destoroyah vs Smaug and Trypticon

Destroyer

"Unbeatable" characters (Mangog/Trion Juggernaut/Lobo/Doomsday/Mr Majestic/Galactus-Seed Destroyer/Terminus/Kal Kent)

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Annihilators vs Robot team

Darth Sidious vs Asgardian Destroyer

WOL Morg vs different set of Heralds of Galactus

Devil Dinosaur

Moon Knight & Devil-slayer vs Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur

Devil-slayer

Darkdevil vs Devil-slayer

Devil-Slayer vs Nightcrawler

Jack of Hearts and Devil-Slayer vs Omega the Unknown and Typhoid Mary

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

Shang Chi (Secret Wars) vs Devil-slayer, Manslaughter, Foreigner

Ruby Thursday vs Devil-slayer

Moon Knight & Devil-slayer vs Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Sauron (Marvel) vs Devil-Slayer

Dex-starr

Dex-Starr vs Hairball vs Streaky

Diamondback

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Silver Sable vs Diamondback vs Moon Knight (throwing battle)

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Diamondback (Luke Cage Netflix)

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Diego "Number Two" (Umbrella Academy)

"Hobbit" Dwarves vs Live Action Comic Team

Die Hard (John McClane)

Four Live-Action Punishers vs 80s Action Heroes

Disir

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Disir vs Team of Eleven Warriors (Valkyrie, Dani Moonstar, Acroyear, Black Tarantula, Lizard, Silver Samurai, Black Knight, Grendel Prime, Lady Deathstrike, Kit Fisto, Spiral)

D-Man

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Doc Samson

H2H Bracket Battle: Heavyweights (90-100 tons)

Doctor Octopus

Doctor Octopus vs Sabretooth and Omega Red

Sabretooth vs Doctor Octopus

Doctor Octopus vs MODOK (prep battle)

All versions of the Sinister Six vs Each Other

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Doc Ock vs Maximus the Mad--prep battle

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Doctor Octopus vs General Grievous (no sabers)

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Spiders vs Goblins version 1

Spiders vs Goblins version 2

Spider-man Villains

Domino

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Guns A'Blazin' Bracket Battle

Classic Marauders vs an X-Force team

Typhoid Mary and White Tiger vs Manslaughter and Domino

Domino and Kraven vs Taskmaster and Bane

Domino vs Jane Foster as Valkyrie

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

Donald Blake

Insane Donald Blake vs Mr. Hyde, Abomination, Namor, Hercules, Drax

Doomsday

"Unbeatable" characters (Mangog/Trion Juggernaut/Lobo/Doomsday/Mr Majestic/Galactus-Seed Destroyer/Terminus/Kal Kent)

Donald Pierce

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Dormammu

Dormammu vs Arishem

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

Dottie Underwood

Elizabeth & Philip Jennings (The Americans) vs Agent Carter & Dottie Underwood

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Doug Ramsey

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Amadeus Cho vs Doug Ramsey

Dragon Man

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Thanos vs Future Foundation (prep battle)

Grimlock runs the gauntlet: Armadillo/Triceraton, Thing/Wrecker, Captain Marvel/Warstar, Rom, Executioner, Dragon Man

Dragon of the Moon

Terrors of Titan: Dragon of the Moon vs Thanos

Drake

Aka, Tekagi, Shingen vs Drake, Ikari, Ogun

Drax

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Classic Marauders vs some Guardians of the Galaxy

Jessica Jones and Nuke vs Gamora and Drax (all MCU)

Insane Donald Blake vs Mr. Hyde, Abomination, Namor, Hercules, Drax

Dreadknight

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Dreamqueen

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Dr. Doom

Prep Battle: Richards/Panther/Batman vs Dr Doom/Braniac/Apocalypse

Archvillains of DC and Marvel: Doom, Loki, Thanos, Mr. Sinister and Ultron vs Luthor, Zoom, Darkseid, Sinestro, Black Adam

Doom vs Frodo vs Hal Jordan: willpower battle for a GL ring

Sorcerer Bracket Battle

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #4: Very High

Dr. Doom and Selene vs Enchantress and Morgan Le Fay

2005/7 FOX DR. Doom vs Jonah (Runaways)

Dr. Doom vs Nimrod

Dr. Who

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Drizzt

Rook/Drizzt-v-Legolas/Tauriel-v-Jack-Frost/Bunnymund

Drizzt vs Grendel

Dr. Sprectrum

Annihilators vs Ultimates and Squadron Supreme

Dr. Strange

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Annihilators vs Earth Heroes

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #4: Very High

MCU versions of the actual comics Defenders vs MCU villains

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Dusk

Spider-man Allies

Dweller in Darkness

Dweller in Darkness vs Null the Living Darkness

Echo

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Huntress & Batgirl vs Echo & Hellcat

Elektra Runs a Gauntlet of Female Warriors

Live action: Kate Bishop and Echo vs Jyn Erso and Bo-Katan

Mystique, Lady Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike vs Tigra, Echo, Elsa Bloodstone

Ego

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

Eel

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Electro

Villains royal rumble: Team 1 (Mr. Freeze, Pyro, Grievous, Kraven, Dr. Octopus) VS Team 2 (Constrictor, Death Adder, Electro, Sandman, Hobgoblin) VS Team 3 (Lizard, Morbius, Mysterio, Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett)

All versions of the Sinister Six vs Each Other

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Spider-man Villains

Elektra

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Lady Bullseye, Elektra, Black Widow vs Black Knight, Crossbones, Karnak

Elektra (movie) vs Daredevil (Netflix)

Elektra & Captain America vs Catwoman & Ozymandias vs Mother Russia & Deathstroke (all movies/TV)

MCU Daredevil and Movie Elektra vs Movie Daredevil and MCU Elektra

MCU Elektra vs MCU Kingpin

Elodie Yung Mania: Jinx vs Elektra

Movie Daredevil team vs Batman movies team

Cass Cain, Gamora, & Ravager vs Mantis, Elektra, & Lady Deathstrike

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

MCU Black Sky Elektra vs Hit Girl on Adrenaline vs Khan

Spiderverse Miles Morales vs movie Daredevil and Elektra

Elektra Runs a Gauntlet of Female Warriors

Shang-Chi and Xialing vs Fox Daredevil and Elektra

What If Captain Carter runs a female live action gauntlet

Eleven

Eleven vs Bee-tee and Triple-Zero (killer Star Wars droids)

Sydney Novak (I am Not Okay with This) vs Eleven (Stranger Things)

El Jaguar

Battle among Scourge's victims

Elsa Bloodstone

MCU: WWBN and Elsa vs Triton and Gorgon

Mystique, Lady Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike vs Tigra, Echo, Elsa Bloodstone

MCU: WWBN and Elsa vs Jessica Jones and Peggy Carter

Emiko

Komodo/Emiko vs Big Daddy/Hit Girl

Komodo/Emiko vs Marv/Miho

Emma Frost

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Enchantress

Enchantress vs Starfox (seduction battle)

Dr. Doom and Selene vs Enchantress and Morgan Le Fay

Enforcer

Battle among Scourge's victims

Eradicator

Tech Bracket Battle # 4: High-Power Robots

Ereshkigal

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #4: Very High

Eric O'Grady (Ant-man/Black Ant)

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

Erik Josten (Atlas/Goliath)

Giant guys (and gals) wild rumpus!

Eternals (MCU)

MCU Eternals vs MCU Inhumans

Etrigan

Etrigan and Quantum vs Vartox and Forgotten One

Etrigan vs Firestorm (Jason)

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

Eva Bell

Illyana vs Eva Bell (Tempus)

E.V.E.

Tech Bracket Battle # 2: Low-Power Robots

E.V.E. (from Wall-e) vs Droideka (Star Wars)

Grendel-Prime vs E.V.E.

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Eye Killer

Hotspur vs Eye Killer

Falcon

Captain America (Wilson) vs Moon Knight

Inner Circle (The Gifted) vs MCU Avengers

Fallen One

WOL Morg vs different set of Heralds of Galactus

Fancy Dan

Miles Morales vs Bengal, Fancy Dan, Huntress

Team from Lost vs Street level villains (Sin Eater, Paladin, Fancy Dan, Kingpin, Firefly)

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

Ben (LOST) and Hellcat vs Thin Man and Fancy Dan

Moon Knight vs the Enforcers

Kingpin vs Enforcers

Spider-man Villains

Fantastic Four

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Power Pack vs Original Fantastic Four

Prep Battle: Richards/Panther/Batman vs Dr Doom/Braniac/Apocalypse

Grimlock runs the gauntlet: Armadillo/Triceraton, Thing/Wrecker, Captain Marvel/Warstar, Rom, Executioner, Dragon Man

Fantomex

Fantomex vs Mastermind vs Miracle Man

Felix the Cat

Santa's Little Helper vs Felix the Cat

Fenris

Hammer and Anvil vs Fenris

Feral

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

Puma, Feral, Tigra vs Wolfsbane, Mad Dog, Werewolf by Night

Fer-de-Lance

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Finesse

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Beat my h2h All-Star Female Team (Cass Cain, Lady Shiva, Finesse, Gamora, Mantis, Red Sonja)

Firebird

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Firebrand

Battle among Scourge's victims

Fire-eater

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Firelord

Firelord vs Ikaris

Firelord vs Nova (Frankie Raye)

Firepower

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Firestar

Smiths vs Joneses: Agent Smith, Cats Eye, Boom Boom, Red Tornado, Red Skull vs Jessica Jones, Alejandra Jones, Firestar, Casey Jones, Rick Jones as A Bomb

Firestorm

Mandarin vs Firestorm

Etrigan vs Firestorm (Jason)

Legion vs Firestorm

The Fix

Mac (Paper Girls) vs Mac (The Fix)

Fly

Battle among Scourge's victims

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Flying Gambonnos

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Force

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Foreigner

Foreigner vs Manslaughter

Shang Chi (Secret Wars) vs Devil-slayer, Manslaughter, Foreigner

Forgotten One

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

Etrigan and Quantum vs Vartox and Forgotten One

Franklin Richards

Thanos vs Future Foundation (prep battle)

Frenzy

Women Warriors bracket battle: Powerhouses

Thundra & Arclight vs Frenzy & Sif

Frog Thor

Frog Thor vs B'dg

The Fury

Tech Bracket Battle # 4: High-Power Robots

Annihilators vs Robot team

Future Foundation

Thanos vs Future Foundation (prep battle)

Galactus

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

How many Infinity Gems does Thanos need to beat Galactus?

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #4: Very High

Galactus’s Punisher Robot

Tech Bracket Battle # 3: Medium-Power Robots

Gamora

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Beat my h2h All-Star Female Team (Cass Cain, Lady Shiva, Finesse, Gamora, Mantis, Red Sonja)

Classic Marauders vs some Guardians of the Galaxy

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #4: Very High

Jessica Jones and Nuke vs Gamora and Drax (all MCU)

Miles Morales vs Gamora

MCU: DD, Nuke, Jessica Jones vs Black Widow, Crossbones, Gamora

MCU Gamora vs John Harrison/Khan

Laura (Logan) vs Gamora (MCU)

Cass Cain, Gamora, & Ravager vs Mantis, Elektra, & Lady Deathstrike

MCU Valkyrie vs MCU Gamora

What If Captain Carter runs a female live action gauntlet

Gardener

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Garfield

Shaggy and Scooby vs Dagwood and Garfield (eating contest)

Gargamel

Bookworm (60s Batman) vs Gargamel

Gargoyle

Darkdevil vs Gargoyle

Gargoyle vs Archangel

Cloak, Madcap, Gargoyle vs Deathstalker, Mysterio, Demogoblin

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Gargoyle vs Spiral

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Ghaur

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #4: Very High

Ghost

Battle of Intangibles

Sunturion and Ghost vs Nimrod and Victor Mancha

MCU: Cloak & Dagger vs Ghost & Ana Helstrom

Ghost Maker

Ghost Maker vs American Samurai

Gorgon, Ghost Maker, Kirigi vs Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, Silver Samurai

Ghost Rider

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

The Gifted show

Inner Circle (The Gifted) vs MCU Avengers

Giganta

Giant guys (and gals) wild rumpus!

GI Joe

Firefly vs Zartan

Ronin and Snake Eyes vs Thin Man and Blade

Scarlett and Vigilante vs Prowler and Killer Shrike

Silver Sable vs Scarlett (GI Joe)

Snake Eyes vs Black Panther

Snake Eyes vs Shang Chi

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Zartan vs Daredevil

Grievous vs Black Knight, Silver Samurai, Snake Eyes, and Grendel Prime

Miho (Sin City) vs Snake Eyes vs Cassandra Cain

Guns A'Blazin' Bracket Battle

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs All-Female Team (Batgirl, Hit Girl, Mockingbird, Black Widow)

Tech Bracket Battle # 1: Androids

Tech Bracket Battle # 6: Low-Power Armor

Classic Marauders vs a GI Joe/Cobra team

A GI Joe team vs a SHIELD team

Cobra team vs Nick Fury and the Howling Commandoes

Princess Python vs Croc Master

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Serpentor vs Khan (Star Trek reboot)

Elodie Yung Mania: Jinx vs Elektra

Ray Stevenson Mania: Firefly vs Punisher

Ray Park Mania: Snake Eyes vs Darth Maul

Red Sonja vs Snake Eyes

Live action: all 4 Punishers vs Joe/Cobras

Gladiator

Annihilators vs Cosmic Heroes

Annihilators vs Cosmic Villains

Annihilators vs Earth Heroes

Annihilators vs Earth Villains

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

Annihilators vs Robot team

Annihilators vs Sith Lords

Annihilators vs Gotham Girl, Apocalypse Twins, Starbrand, Warlock (T-O)

Gladiator (Melvin Potter)

MCU: Daredevil & Patsy Walker on Reds vs Batroc & Gladiator

Glorian

Glorian vs Delinquent (Infant Terrible)

The Presence and Proteus vs Glorian and the Grandmaster

Godzilla universe

Tech Bracket Battle # 4: High-Power Robots

Godzooky vs Bumblebee

Gigan vs Voltron

King Ghidorah vs King Caesar

King Ghidorah and Destoroyah vs Smaug and Trypticon

Mini-Godzilla vs War of the Worlds Tripod

Gorgon (Inhuman)

MCU: WWBN and Elsa vs Triton and Gorgon

Gorgon (mutant)

Gorgon, Ghost Maker, Kirigi vs Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, Silver Samurai

Gotham Girl

Annihilators vs Gotham Girl, Apocalypse Twins, Starbrand, Warlock (T-O)

Grandmaster

Annihilators vs Cosmic Villains

The Presence and Proteus vs Glorian and the Grandmaster

Grant Ward

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Grappler

Battle among Scourge's victims

Gravik

Gravik (Skrull) vs Karli Morganthau

Graviton

Annihilators vs Earth Villains

Green Arrow

Thea (Season 4) vs Oliver (Season 1) CW Arrow AGGGGHHHH! LOCKED!

Green Goblin (all versions)

Spiders vs Goblins version 1

Spiders vs Goblins version 2

Spider-man Villains

Bullseye vs Green Goblin

Green Hornet

"Hobbit" Dwarves vs Live Action Comic Team

Green Lantern

Green Lantern Ring vs The One Ring to Rule Them All

Doom vs Frodo vs Hal Jordan: willpower battle for a GL ring

Griever

Cormorant vs Griever

Grendel Universe

Black Tarantula vs Pellon Cross

Crossbones vs Grendel

Drizzt vs Grendel

Eppy Thatcher (Grendel) vs Green Goblin

Grendel vs Taskmaster

Grievous vs Black Knight, Silver Samurai, Snake Eyes, and Grendel Prime

Ogun vs Tujiro XIV

Shredder vs Grendel

Team Grendel vs Team Other: Hunter Rose vs Daredevil, Christine Spar vs Mockingbird, Brian Li Sung vs Kick Ass, Eppy Thatcher vs Jack O’Lantern

Disir vs Team of Eleven Warriors (Valkyrie, Dani Moonstar, Acroyear, Black Tarantula, Lizard, Silver Samurai, Black Knight, Grendel Prime, Lady Deathstrike, Kit Fisto, Spiral)

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Hunter Rose vs Red Sonja

Tujiro vs Argent

Tujiro vs Grendel-Prime

Grendel Prime vs Terminator 850

Grendel Prime vs Robocop

Christine Spar (Grendel II) vs Mockingbird

Eppy Thatcher vs Jack O'Lantern

Hunter Rose vs Nightcrawler

Grendel-Prime vs Boba Fett

Grendel-Prime vs E.V.E.

Goran vs Susan Veraghen (both from Grendel Tales)

Grendel (Hunter Rose) vs Stick

Daredevil and Red Sonja vs Grendel and Deathstroke

Eppy Thatcher vs Moon Knight

Grey Goblin

Spiders vs Goblins version 1

Spiders vs Goblins version 2

Griffin

H2H Bracket Battle: Heavyweights (90-100 tons)

Molly Hayes vs Griffin

Grim Reaper

All versions of the Sinister Six vs Each Other

Streetlevel Villains Team 1 (Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett, Lizard, Kraven, Killer Shrike) VS Team 2 (Grim Reaper, Swordsman, Sauron, Morbius, Scorpion)

Groot

Classic Marauders vs some Guardians of the Galaxy

Guardian

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Guardsman

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Gunslinger (Westworld)

Tech Bracket Battle # 1: Androids

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Links to the other lists:

Battles by Power Level

Battles by Character, A-C

Battles by Character, D-G

Battles by Character, H-L

Battles by Character, M-Q

Battles by Character, R-S

Battles by Character, T-Z

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Revamped List of All Owie's Battles: by Character, A-C

I’ve always kept a list of all the battles I created and I posted it as a blog at the end of my first and second years on the Vine. At that point I made an average of a hundred battles a year. Since then I’ve fallen off some but I’m somewhere over 250 now, and I wanted to re-do my list so I can keep track of it more easily.

There are now two versions of the list. One is in another blog page and this one is broken down into multiple blog pages (it's too long to fit in one entry).

The first one (which is in another entry by itself) lists all my battles, categorized by power level: Streetlevel(ish), Mid-Tier, and Cosmic, plus separate categories for my Bracket Battles and for battles that are themed or intentionally goofy. In this list, each battle is listed only once.

The second one (which is on this page and continues on other pages) is categorized by character. It lists every character I’ve ever used in a battle, and under each character is a list of all the battles I’ve used them in. So for instance all the battles that I made using Devil-Slayer are listed under Devil-slayer. This file lists each battle multiple times, since each battle is listed separately under each character in that battle. So for instance "Darkdevil vs Devil-Slayer" is listed under both Darkdevil and Devil-slayer.

This page goes from A to C.

In this second list, I occasionally put listed battles under teams or universes rather than characters. So for instance, all battles involving a member of Power Pack can be found under Power Pack, all Grendel-related battles are under Grendel Universe, etc.

I’ll be updating these lists periodically for my own use. I hope you enjoy perusing them and please consider commenting on or bumping a battle. Thanks!

Second List:

A-C

Abomination

H2H Bracket Battle: Heavyweights (90-100 tons)

MCU: Emil Blonsky vs Agent Simpson

Legolas and Tauriel vs Hit Girl and Emil Blonsky

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Insane Donald Blake vs Mr. Hyde, Abomination, Namor, Hercules, Drax

Absorbing Man

Annihilators vs Earth Villains

Power Absorbers: Absorbing man, Amazo, Superadaptoid, Mimic, Rogue, Taskmaster, Awesome Android

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #3: High

Acroyear

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Adam Warlock

Annihilators vs Cosmic Heroes

Warlock vs Warlock

Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters

Clint (Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters) vs Rocket Raccoon

Kim Possible and Jackie (Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters) vs Gwen Tennyson and Cerberus (H2H)

Pet Avengers vs Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters

Plants vs Zombies team vs ARBBHamsters

Afro Samurai

Shaolin Cowboy vs Afro Samurai vs Cowboy-Ninja-Viking

Agent Orange (Punisher)

MCU versions of the actual comics Defenders vs MCU villains

Agent Smith

Smiths vs Joneses: Agent Smith, Cats Eye, Boom Boom, Red Tornado, Red Skull vs Jessica Jones, Alejandra Jones, Firestar, Casey Jones, Rick Jones as A Bomb

Air Walker

Tech Bracket Battle # 4: High-Power Robots

Aka (The Hand)

Aka (The Hand) vs Captain America

Aka, Tekagi, Shingen vs Drake, Ikari, Ogun

Alejandra Jones

Smiths vs Joneses: Agent Smith, Cats Eye, Boom Boom, Red Tornado, Red Skull vs Jessica Jones, Alejandra Jones, Firestar, Casey Jones, Rick Jones as A Bomb

Alistair Smythe

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Alpha

Alpha vs Matthew Malloy

Amadeus Cho

Amadeus Cho vs Doug Ramsey

Amazo

Power Absorbers: Absorbing man, Amazo, Superadaptoid, Mimic, Rogue, Taskmaster, Awesome Android

Amazon

Giant guys (and gals) wild rumpus!

The Americans (Philip and Elizabeth Jennings)

NF Daredevil vs Philip and Elizabeth Jennings from The Americans

Elizabeth & Philip Jennings (The Americans) vs Agent Carter & Dottie Underwood

American Samurai

Ghost Maker vs American Samurai

Anaconda

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Ana Helstrom

Hulu's Daimon and Ana Helstrom vs SHIELD's Lash

MCU: Cloak & Dagger vs Ghost & Ana Helstrom

Hulu MCU: Daimon & Ana Helstrom vs Nico and Chase vs Cloak & Dagger

Daimon and Ana Helstrom vs Ronan (live action)

Live Action Magic-Users: Sofina/Hermione/Magik vs Morgan Le Fay/Ana Helstrom/Sylvie

Ana Kravinoff

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Ana Kravinoff vs Tigra

Andromeda

Skurge and Ares vs Valkyrie, Sif, and Andromeda

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Angel

Team Saga vs Original X-men

Gargoyle vs Archangel

Classic Marauders vs an X-Force team

Annihilation Wave

Annihilation Wave vs Builder Fleet

Annihilus

Annihilators vs Cosmic Villains

Anti-Man

WOL Morg vs different set of Heralds of Galactus

Anton Ivanov

MCU Cap goes through enhanced Agents of Shield gauntlet

SHIELD: Ruby and Zabo vs Mace and Ivanov

Apache Chief

Giant guys (and gals) wild rumpus!

Apocalypse

Adult Loki vs Adult Apocalypse

Kid Loki vs Kid Apocalypse

Prep Battle: Richards/Panther/Batman vs Dr Doom/Braniac/Apocalypse

"Scuttlebutt" and Beta Ray Bill vs "Ship" and Apocalypse

Apocalypse Twins

Luminous vs Apocalypse Twins

Annihilators vs Gotham Girl, Apocalypse Twins, Starbrand, Warlock (T-O)

Apollo

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Aquaman

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Arabian Knight

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Arana

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Arclight

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

Classic Marauders vs an X-Force team

Classic Marauders vs some Guardians of the Galaxy

Classic Marauders vs a GI Joe/Cobra team

Classic Marauders vs Mutant Force and Friends

Thundra & Arclight vs Frenzy & Sif

Arcturus Rann/Time Travelers

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Ares

H2H Bracket Battle: Cruiserweights (60-85 tons)

Kevin Matchstick runs the gauntlet (Tombstone, Scorpion, Warpath, Wrecker, Ares, Hulk)

Skurge and Ares vs Valkyrie, Sif, and Andromeda

Terrax vs Ares vs Axe Cop

Armadillo

Grimlock runs the gauntlet: Armadillo/Triceraton, Thing/Wrecker, Captain Marvel/Warstar, Rom, Executioner, Dragon Man

Armor

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Artie Maddox

Thanos vs Future Foundation (prep battle)

Asp

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Attuma

H2H Bracket Battle: Cruiserweights (60-85 tons)

MCU: WWBN and Luke Cage vs Yon-Rogg and Attuma

Auran

All-MCU: Triton, Karnak, Auran vs Mockingbird, Daredevil, Black Widow

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Ava (Ex Machina)

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Avatar shows

Captain Carter runs an accumulation gauntlet

Avatar AMP suit

Tech Bracket Battle # 6: Low-Power Armor

Awesome Android

Power Absorbers: Absorbing man, Amazo, Superadaptoid, Mimic, Rogue, Taskmaster, Awesome Android

Strength Increasers: Maelstrom, Strong Guy, Black King, Awesome Android, Rage

Axe Cop

Axe Cop vs Adam West Batman

Axe Cop vs Impossible Man

Terrax vs Ares vs Axe Cop

Bakuto

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Bane

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Baron Mordo

Daimon Hellstrom vs Baron Mordo

Sorcerer Bracket Battle

Barbara Gordon

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs All-Female Team (Batgirl, Hit Girl, Mockingbird, Black Widow)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Moon Knight and Rorschach vs Batgirl and Komodo

Huntress & Batgirl vs Echo & Hellcat

Basilisk

Battle among Scourge's victims

Bastion

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

Batman

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Nolan Batman vs Nicholson Joker

Movie Daredevil runs a gauntlet of movie Batmans

Kung Fu Panda and Tick vs Scott Pilgrim and Adam West Batman

Axe Cop vs Adam West Batman

One-time Amps Bracket Battle #1: Low

Movie Daredevil team vs Batman movies team

Batman Beyond

Batman Beyond vs Boba Fett

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Scott Pilgrim vs Batman Beyond

Batroc

MCU: Daredevil & Patsy Walker on Reds vs Batroc & Gladiator

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Battlestar Galactica

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Batwoman

Silver Samurai and Moon Knight vs Black Widow and Batwoman

Batwoman vs Hit Girl

Batwoman vs Thin Man (Crispin Glover from Charlie's Angels)

Batwoman (Arrowverse) vs Mary Walker (Ironfist Netflix)

Batwoman (CW) vs Hellcat (NF)

Old Guard vs Misfit Live Action team

Baymax

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

B’dg

Frog Thor vs B'dg

Beast

Original Beast vs Mad Dog

Original Beast vs Moon Knight (moon powers)

Beast vs Leader (prep battle)

Team Saga vs Original X-men

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

Valkyrie vs Beast

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Live Action: Thunderbird and X-23 vs Okoye and Beast

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

Beetle

Spider-man Villains

Ben 10

Ben 10 vs Ninjago Ninjas

Devastator vs Way Big

Rook/Drizzt-v-Legolas/Tauriel-v-Jack-Frost/Bunnymund

Kim Possible and Jackie (Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters) vs Gwen Tennyson and Cerberus (H2H)

Cad Bane (Star Wars) vs Rook (Ben 10)

Bengal

Miles Morales vs Bengal, Fancy Dan, Huntress

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

Beta-Beasts

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Beta Ray Bill

Annihilators vs Cosmic Heroes

Annihilators vs Cosmic Villains

Annihilators vs Earth Heroes

Annihilators vs Earth Villains

Annihilators vs Ultimates and Squadron Supreme

Annihilators vs Robot team

Annihilators vs Sith Lords

Annihilators vs Gotham Girl, Apocalypse Twins, Starbrand, Warlock (T-O)

"Scuttlebutt" and Beta Ray Bill vs "Ship" and Apocalypse

Beyonder

All versions of the Beyonder against each other!

Big Barda

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Powerhouses

Big Daddy

Komodo/Emiko vs Big Daddy/Hit Girl

Bill and Don (cyborg lobsters)

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Bill Foster/Black Goliath

Giant guys (and gals) wild rumpus!

Bionic Man

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Bird-Man

Battle among Scourge's victims

Bishop (X-Man)

Classic Marauders vs an X-Force team

Bishop (Aliens)

Tech Bracket Battle # 1: Androids

Black Abbott

Battle among Scourge's victims

Black Adam

Archvillains of DC and Marvel: Doom, Loki, Thanos, Mr. Sinister and Ultron vs Luthor, Zoom, Darkseid, Sinestro, Black Adam

Black Bolt

Annihilators vs Earth Heroes

Black Canary

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Charlie's Angels (movies) vs (some of) the ladies of Arrow (CW)

Mantis vs Black Canary, Typhoid Mary, and Lady Bullseye

Black Cat

Spider-man Allies

Tigra and Hellcat vs White Tiger and Black Cat

Black Knight

Disir vs Team of Eleven Warriors (Valkyrie, Dani Moonstar, Acroyear, Black Tarantula, Lizard, Silver Samurai, Black Knight, Grendel Prime, Lady Deathstrike, Kit Fisto, Spiral)

H2H Bracket Battle: Lightweights (human-1 ton)

Grievous vs Black Knight, Silver Samurai, Snake Eyes, and Grendel Prime

Lady Bullseye, Elektra, Black Widow vs Black Knight, Crossbones, Karnak

Ka-Zar vs Black Knight

Living Blade, Swordsman, Typhoid Mary vs Colleen Wing, Blade, Black Knight

Black Mamba

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Black Panther

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Prep Battle: Richards/Panther/Batman vs Dr Doom/Braniac/Apocalypse

Black Panther vs Pink Panthers

Snake Eyes vs Black Panther

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Black Panther vs Red Sonja

One-time Amps Bracket Battle #1: Low

Annihilators vs Ultimates and Squadron Supreme

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Black Racer

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Blacksun

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Black Tarantula

Disir vs Team of Eleven Warriors (Valkyrie, Dani Moonstar, Acroyear, Black Tarantula, Lizard, Silver Samurai, Black Knight, Grendel Prime, Lady Deathstrike, Kit Fisto, Spiral)

Black Widow

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Counting Coup: Black Widow vs Deathstroke

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs All-Female Team (Batgirl, Hit Girl, Mockingbird, Black Widow)

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Silver Samurai and Moon Knight vs Black Widow and Batwoman

Lady Bullseye, Elektra, Black Widow vs Black Knight, Crossbones, Karnak

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Bullseye vs Black Widow

MCU: DD, Nuke, Jessica Jones vs Black Widow, Crossbones, Gamora

Ikari and Moon Knight vs Lady Bullseye and Black Widow

All-MCU: Triton, Karnak, Auran vs Mockingbird, Daredevil, Black Widow

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

Inner Circle (The Gifted) vs MCU Avengers

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

What If Captain Carter runs a female live action gauntlet

Blade

Dani Moonstar (as valkyrie) runs a gauntlet: Blade, Puma, Warpath, Wrecker, Skurge

Ronin and Snake Eyes vs Thin Man and Blade

Swordsman and Morbius vs Blade and Tigra

H2H Bracket Battle: Welterweights (2-15 tons)

Living Blade, Swordsman, Typhoid Mary vs Colleen Wing, Blade, Black Knight

Bladerunner

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Blastaar

Blastaar and Radioactive Man vs Skurge and Ikaris

Blob

H2H Bracket Battle: Cruiserweights (60-85 tons)

Blockbuster

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

Classic Marauders vs an X-Force team

Classic Marauders vs some Guardians of the Galaxy

Classic Marauders vs a GI Joe/Cobra team

Classic Marauders vs Mutant Force and Friends

Bloodsport

Live Action: Bloodsport and Peacemaker vs Legolas and Dagger

Blue Marvel

Blue Marvel vs Star Brand (the original—Kenneth Connell)

Bombshell

Kamala Khan vs Bombshell

Bone universe

3 Ewoks vs the 3 Bones

Bookworm

Bookworm (60s Batman) vs Gargamel

Boom Boom

Smiths vs Joneses: Agent Smith, Cats Eye, Boom Boom, Red Tornado, Red Skull vs Jessica Jones, Alejandra Jones, Firestar, Casey Jones, Rick Jones as A Bomb

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

Blowtorch Brand

Battle among Scourge's victims

Blue Bleetle

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Blue Marvel

Blue Marvel vs Star Brand (the original—Kenneth Connell)

Annihilators vs Earth Heroes

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

Annihilators vs Ultimates and Squadron Supreme

Blue Streak

Battle among Scourge's victims

Blur (Squadron Supreme/New Universe)

Annihilators vs Ultimates and Squadron Supreme

Boomslang

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Borg Drone

Tech Bracket Battle # 1: Androids

Booster Gold

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

Box

Tech Bracket Battle # 3: Medium-Power Robots

Victor Mancha vs Box (Madison Jeffries)

Braniac

Tech Bracket Battle # 3: Medium-Power Robots

Brother Voodoo

Brother Voodoo vs Mother Talzin

Sorcerer Bracket Battle

Bruto the Strongman

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Buck Rogers

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Bucky/Winter Soldier

Kim Possible runs a gauntlet (Harley Quinn, classic Bucky, Stephanie Brown)

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

Buffy

Women Warriors bracket battle: Mid-tier

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Bug (Micronauts)

Nightcrawler vs Bug (Micronauts)

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Builder Fleet

Annihilation Wave vs Builder Fleet

Bullseye

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

One-time Amps Bracket Battle #1: Low

Bullseye vs Black Widow

Bullseye vs Green Goblin

Burner

Classic Marauders vs Mutant Force and Friends

Bushman

Bushman vs Crossbones vs Hammerhead

Bushmaster

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Cable

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

Caitlin Fairchild

Women Warriors bracket battle: Powerhouses

Cannonball

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

Captain America

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Elektra & Captain America vs Catwoman & Ozymandias vs Mother Russia & Deathstroke (all movies/TV)

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

MCU Cap goes through enhanced Agents of Shield gauntlet

IG-11 vs MCU Captain America

Inner Circle (The Gifted) vs MCU Avengers

Aka (The Hand) vs Captain America

Wolverine, Iron Fist, Captain America vs Lizard, Tombstone, Kraven

Captain Britain

H2H Bracket Battle: Heavyweights (90-100 tons)

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Captain Marvel

Grimlock runs the gauntlet: Armadillo/Triceraton, Thing/Wrecker, Captain Marvel/Warstar, Rom, Executioner, Dragon Man

Jack of Hearts vs Captain Mar-vell

Current Magneto vs Classic Captain Marvel

Captain Universe

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Casey Jones

"Hobbit" Dwarves vs Live Action Comic Team

Old Guard vs Misfit Live Action team

Cass Cain

Beat my h2h All-Star Female Team (Cass Cain, Lady Shiva, Finesse, Gamora, Mantis, Red Sonja)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Cass Cain, Gamora, & Ravager vs Mantis, Elektra, & Lady Deathstrike

Cassie Sandsmark (Wonder Girl)

Women Warriors bracket battle: Powerhouses

Cats Eye

Smiths vs Joneses: Agent Smith, Cats Eye, Boom Boom, Red Tornado, Red Skull vs Jessica Jones, Alejandra Jones, Firestar, Casey Jones, Rick Jones as A Bomb

Catwoman

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Elektra & Captain America vs Catwoman & Ozymandias vs Mother Russia & Deathstroke (all movies/TV)

Celestials

Dormammu vs Arishem

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

Cerberus

Kim Possible and Jackie (Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters) vs Gwen Tennyson and Cerberus (H2H)

Cerise

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Champion

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Champion vs Kurse

Charlie 27

Micronauts vs old-school Guardians of the Galaxy

Charlie's Angels

Charlie's Angels (movies) vs (some of) the ladies of Arrow (CW)

Chase Stein

Hulu MCU: Daimon & Ana Helstrom vs Nico and Chase vs Cloak & Dagger

Chastity McBride

A GI Joe team vs a SHIELD team

Cheetah (Marvel)

Battle among Scourge's victims

Cheshire

Women Warriors bracket battle: Streetlevel

Chewbacca

Comedian and Judge Dredd vs Punisher and Chewbacca (movies)

Cigarette Smoking Man

Prep battle: Kingpin, Ben Linus from Lost, Cigarette Smoking Man from X-Files

Claire Temple

MCU: Peggy Carter & Claire Temple vs Maria Hill & Misty Knight

Clay Quartermain

A GI Joe team vs a SHIELD team

Clea

Annihilators vs Cosmic Heroes

Cloak

Cloak vs Sandman

Cloak, Madcap, Gargoyle vs Deathstalker, Mysterio, Demogoblin

Battle of Intangibles

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Klaw and Darth Vader vs Selene and Cloak

MCU: Cloak & Dagger vs Ghost & Ana Helstrom

Hulu MCU: Daimon & Ana Helstrom vs Nico and Chase vs Cloak & Dagger

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Cloud

Classic Marauders vs Mutant Force and Friends

Clown

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Coachwhip

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Cobra

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Collective Man

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Colleen Wing

MCU Streetlevel Heroes

Living Blade, Swordsman, Typhoid Mary vs Colleen Wing, Blade, Black Knight

Colossus

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Summers Siblings vs Rasputin Siblings

Comedian

Comedian and Judge Dredd vs Punisher and Chewbacca (movies)

Team from LOST (Sayid, Keamy, Ben, Locke, Mikhail) vs Hit Girl, Red Hood, Comedian, Dwight from Sin City, Stephanie Brown

Guns A'Blazin' Bracket Battle

Commander Kraken

Battle among Scourge's victims

Commando (John Matrix)

Four Live-Action Punishers vs 80s Action Heroes

Constrictor

Streetlevel Villains Team 1 (Mr. Freeze, Pyro, Dr. Octopus, Grievous, Mysterio) VS Team 2 (Electro, Hobgoblin, Constrictor, Laserbeak, Ogun)

Villains royal rumble: Team 1 (Mr. Freeze, Pyro, Grievous, Kraven, Dr. Octopus) VS Team 2 (Constrictor, Death Adder, Electro, Sandman, Hobgoblin) VS Team 3 (Lizard, Morbius, Mysterio, Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett)

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Contessa Valentina Allegara de Fontaine

A GI Joe team vs a SHIELD team

Copperhead

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Cormorant

Cormorant vs Griever

Cosmic Cubes

6 Cosmic Cubes vs 6 Infinity Gems (separated)

Cosmic Hulk

Tech Bracket Battle # 4: High-Power Robots

Annihilators vs Robot team

Cottonmouth

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Count Nefaria

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights with Other Powers (100+ tons, plus other powers)

Cowboy-Ninja-Viking

Shaolin Cowboy vs Afro Samurai vs Cowboy-Ninja-Viking

C.O.W.L.

Star Wars rebels team vs C.O.W.L. team

Coyote

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

C.R.A.S.H.

H2H Bracket Battle: Superheavyweights (100+ tons)

Crimson Dynamo

Tech Bracket Battle # 7: Medium-Power Armor

My 500th Battle!: Mantlo-verse Bracket Battle

Crossbones

Guns A'Blazin' Bracket Battle

Lady Bullseye, Elektra, Black Widow vs Black Knight, Crossbones, Karnak

Crossbones vs Grendel

MCU: DD, Nuke, Jessica Jones vs Black Widow, Crossbones, Gamora

MCU Streetlevel Villains

Bushman vs Crossbones vs Hammerhead

Cyborg

Tech Bracket Battle # 5: Cyborgs

Cyclone

Battle among Scourge's victims

Cyclops

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Team Saga vs Original X-men

Cyclops vs Hellcat (H2H only)

One-Time Amps Bracket Battle #2: Medium

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Summers Siblings vs Rasputin Siblings

Cylon

Tech Bracket Battle # 2: Low-Power Robots

Cytorrak

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

Links to the other lists:

Battles by Power Level

Battles by Character, A-C

Battles by Character, D-G

Battles by Character, H-L

Battles by Character, M-Q

Battles by Character, R-S

Battles by Character, T-Z

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List of All of Owie's Battles: by Power Level

I’ve always kept a list of all the battles I created and I posted it as a blog at the end of my first and second years on the Vine. At that point I made an average of a hundred battles a year. I've slowed down somewhat since then, and I wanted to re-do my list so I can keep track of it more easily.

There are now two versions of the list. One is in this blog and the other is broken down into multiple other blog entries (they're too long to fit in one entry).

This thread lists all my battles categorized by power level: Streetlevel(ish), Mid-Tier, and Cosmic, plus separate categories for my Bracket Battles and for battles that are themed or intentionally goofy. In this list, each battle is listed only once.

The second set of threads (which is on other pages, linked to below) is categorized by character. It lists every character I’ve ever used in a battle, and under each character is a list of all the battles I’ve used them in. So for instance all the battles that I made using Devil-Slayer are listed under Devil-slayer. This file lists each battle multiple times, since each battle is listed separately under each character in that battle. So for instance "Darkdevil vs Devil-Slayer" is listed under both Darkdevil and Devil-slayer.

In this second list, I occasionally listed battles under teams or universes rather than characters. So for instance, all battles involving a member of Power Pack can be found under Power Pack, all Grendel-related battles are under Grendel Universe, etc.

I’ll be updating these lists periodically for my own use. I hope you enjoy perusing them and please consider commenting on or bumping a battle. Thanks!

Streetlevel(ish) Battles

5-way SW seek and kill: IG-11/K2SO vs Beckett/Qi'ra vs Morgan Elsbeth/Fennec Shand vs 4-LOM/Zuckuss vs Ketsu Onyo/Zeb

A GI Joe team vs a SHIELD team

Aka, Tekagi, Shingen vs Drake, Ikari, Ogun

Aka (The Hand) vs Captain America

Alana and Marko (Saga) vs Jack O'Lantern and Harley Quinn

Alana and Marko (Saga) vs Star-lord and Bug

All-MCU: Triton, Karnak, Auran vs Mockingbird, Daredevil, Black Widow

Amadeus Cho vs Doug Ramsey

Amidalan Handmaidens vs Dr. Aphra's Frenemies

Anakin vs Mantis

Ana Kravinoff vs Tigra

Batman Beyond vs Boba Fett

Batwoman (Arrowverse) vs Mary Walker (Ironfist Netflix)

Batwoman (CW) vs Hellcat (NF)

Batwoman vs Hit Girl

Batwoman vs Thin Man (Crispin Glover from Charlie's Angels)

Beat my h2h All-Star Female Team (Cass Cain, Lady Shiva, Finesse, Gamora, Mantis, Red Sonja)

Beilert Valance, pirates, & Ewoks vs Killer Droids & Sandpeople

Ben (LOST) and Hellcat vs Thin Man and Fancy Dan

Black Tarantula vs Pellon Cross

Black Panther vs Red Sonja

Boba Fett vs Boba Fett vs Boba Fett

Bullseye vs Black Widow

Bullseye vs Green Goblin

Bushman vs Crossbones vs Hammerhead

Cad Bane (Star Wars) vs Rook (Ben 10)

Calvin Zabo vs Will Simpson (both MCU)

Captain America (Wilson) vs Moon Knight

Captain Carter runs an accumulation gauntlet

Cass Cain, Gamora, & Ravager vs Mantis, Elektra, & Lady Deathstrike

Cerebus vs Gollum

Charlie's Angels (movies) vs (some of) the ladies of Arrow (CW)

Christine Spar (Grendel II) vs Mockingbird

Circus of Crime vs Serpent Society

Classic Marauders vs a GI Joe/Cobra team

Clint (Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters) vs Rocket Raccoon

Cloak vs Sandman

Cloak, Madcap, Gargoyle vs Deathstalker, Mysterio, Demogoblin

Cobra team vs Nick Fury and the Howling Commandoes

Comedian and Judge Dredd vs Punisher and Chewbacca (movies)

Crossbones vs Grendel

Cyclops vs Hellcat (H2H only)

Dagger (MCU) vs Diego (Umbrella Academy)

Daredevil and Red Sonja vs Grendel and Deathstroke

Daredevil vs boneclaw/no-HF Wolverine

Daredevil’s team (Iron Fist, Spidey, Black Widow, Hank Pym) vs Bullseye’s team (Lady Bullseye, Ikari, Klaw, Coyote)

Daredevil vs Kanan Jarrus

Darkdevil vs Devil-slayer

Darkdevil vs Gargoyle

Darth Vader vs Grievous and Ventress

D-Dog vs Mr. Horse

Death-Stalker vs Wolverine

Deathstroke and Karnak vs Miles Morales and Boba Fett

Deathstroke vs "John Harrison" (Star Trek: Into Darkness) (Khan)

Deathstroke vs Moon Knight, Bullseye, and Bruiser

Deathstroke vs Mantis, H2H/Prep rounds

Defenders team vs Sinister Six team

Devil-Slayer vs Nightcrawler

Doctor Octopus vs General Grievous (no sabers)

Doctor Octopus vs Sabretooth and Omega Red

Domino and Kraven vs Taskmaster and Bane

Domino vs Jane Foster as Valkyrie

Drizzt vs Grendel

Dryden Vos and Hunter vs Agent Kallus and Rukh

Dwight McCarthy vs Rorschach

Early Moon Knight vs the Sons of the Tiger

Elektra (movie) vs Daredevil (Netflix)

Elektra & Captain America vs Catwoman & Ozymandias vs Mother Russia & Deathstroke (all movies/TV)

Elektra Runs a Gauntlet of Female Warriors

Elizabeth & Philip Jennings (The Americans) vs Agent Carter & Dottie Underwood

Eppy Thatcher (Grendel) vs Green Goblin

Eppy Thatcher vs Jack O'Lantern

Eppy Thatcher vs Moon Knight

3 Ewoks vs the 3 Bones

Firefly vs Zartan

Foreigner vs Manslaughter

Four Live-Action Punishers vs 80s Action Heroes

Gargoyle vs Archangel

Gargoyle vs Spiral

Ghost Maker vs American Samurai

Goran vs Susan Veraghen (both from Grendel Tales)

Gorgon, Ghost Maker, Kirigi vs Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, Silver Samurai

Grendel Prime vs Robocop

Grendel Prime vs Terminator 850

Grendel vs Taskmaster

Grendel-Prime vs Boba Fett

Grievous vs Black Knight, Silver Samurai, Snake Eyes, and Grendel Prime

Grendel (Hunter Rose) vs Stick

Han Solo vs Star-Lord

Hellcat vs Mockingbird

Hellcat vs Prowler

High street/low mid MCU: Netflix vs movies vs TV pairs

Hunter Rose vs Nightcrawler

Hunter Rose vs Red Sonja

Huntress & Batgirl vs Echo & Hellcat

IG-11 and the Mandalorian vs Yondu and Nebula

IG-11 vs MCU Captain America

Ikari and Moon Knight vs Lady Bullseye and Black Widow

Illyana Rasputin vs Kate Pryde

Inquisitor team vs Dawn of the Jedi team

Jeffrey Mace vs John Walker (MCU)

Jessica Jones runs a triple gauntlet

Jessica Jones vs Kamala Khan

Jessica Jones vs Letha

Jessica Jones and Nuke vs Gamora and Drax (all MCU) (locked)

Joaquin Phoenix Joker vs Paul Dano Riddler

Jonah Hex vs Judge Dredd

Jonah Hex vs Punisher

Justice Peace vs Death's Head

Kamala Khan vs Toad

Kanan Jarrus vs Luke Skywalker from current Star Wars comic

Kanan runs an Ahsoka gauntlet

Karnak vs Mantis

Kate Bishop and Squirrel Girl vs Hellcat and Yelena Belova

Ka-Zar vs Black Knight

Kazimierz Kazimierczak vs Madame Masque

Kim Possible and Jackie (Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters) vs Gwen Tennyson and Cerberus (H2H)

Kim Possible runs a gauntlet (Harley Quinn, classic Bucky, Stephanie Brown)

Kingpin vs Marv (Sin City)

Kingpin vs Enforcers

Komodo/Emiko vs Big Daddy/Hit Girl

Komodo/Emiko vs Marv/Miho

Kraven vs Boba Fett

Kraven vs Karnak

Kylo Ren vs Xesh (Dawn of the Jedi)

Lady Bullseye, Elektra, Black Widow vs Black Knight, Crossbones, Karnak

Lady Bullseye vs Lady Deathstrike (skills only)

Laura (Logan) vs Gamora (MCU)

Legolas vs Nightcrawler

Legolas and Tauriel vs Hit Girl and Emil Blonsky

Live action: all 4 Punishers vs Joe/Cobras

Live Action: Bloodsport and Peacemaker vs Legolas and Dagger

Live action: Kate Bishop and Echo vs Jyn Erso and Bo-Katan

Live Action: Thunderbird and X-23 vs Okoye and Beast

Living Blade, Swordsman, Typhoid Mary vs Colleen Wing, Blade, Black Knight

LOTR Hero Battle: Huor, Hurin, Tuor, Turin, Beren, Aragorn

Madame Masque, Viper vs Silver Sable, White Rabbit

Madame Masque, Black Krrsantan, Hellcat vs Prowler, Karnak, Magik

Mad Dog vs Emil Grackleflint

Magik vs Nightcrawler--swords and teleporting

Mandalorian Free-for-All

Mantis vs Black Canary, Typhoid Mary, and Lady Bullseye

Marko (Saga) vs Maika (Monstress)

Marv (Sin City) vs Nixon (Hard Boiled)

Master Izo and Stick vs Ikari and Kirigi

Maude (Man-Eaters) vs Paige (4 Kids Walk in to a Bank)

Mayhem (Cloak & Dagger) and Kingpin (NF) vs Molly (Runaways) and Luther (Umbrella Academy)

MCU Black Sky Elektra vs Hit Girl on Adrenaline vs Khan

MCU Bloody Mary vs MCU Jake Lockley--no powers

MCU Cap goes through enhanced Agents of Shield gauntlet

MCU: Daredevil & Patsy Walker on Reds vs Batroc & Gladiator

MCU: DD, Nuke, Jessica Jones vs Black Widow, Crossbones, Gamora

MCU Daredevil and Movie Elektra vs Movie Daredevil and MCU Elektra

MCU Elektra vs MCU Kingpin

MCU: Emil Blonsky vs Agent Simpson

MCU Eternals vs MCU Inhumans

MCU Gamora vs John Harrison/Khan

MCU: Hellcat vs Mayhem

MCU: Hope van Dyne vs Trish "Patsy" Walker

MCU: Mary Walker (Iron Fist) vs Mack (Agents of SHIELD)

MCU: Peggy Carter & Claire Temple vs Maria Hill & Misty Knight

MCU: Stick vs Kingpin

MCU: Valkyrie, Xu Xialing, Proxima Midnight vs Shuri, Okoye, Nebula

MCU: Will Simpson (Nuke) vs Wilson Fisk

MCU: WWBN and Elsa vs Jessica Jones and Peggy Carter

MCU: WWBN and Elsa vs Triton and Gorgon

MCU: WWBN and Luke Cage vs Yon-Rogg and Attuma

Miho (Sin City) vs Snake Eyes vs Cassandra Cain

Miles Morales vs Bengal, Fancy Dan, Huntress (It looks like this battle has somehow been deleted)

Miles Morales vs Spider-Girl (May Parker)

Miles Morales & Kamala Khan vs Pet Avengers, all bloodlusted

Miles and Kamala vs Deathstroke and Harley Quinn

Miles Morales vs Gamora

Miles vs Nightcrawler, using their swords

Mom from "Mitchells vs the Machines" vs Lots of TV and Movie Robots

Moon Knight vs Karnak

Moon Knight vs Scalphunter

Moon Knight vs Tombstone (both no powers)

Moon Knight vs Mad Dog (The Raid)

Moon Knight & Devil-slayer vs Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur

Moon Knight and Rorschach vs Batgirl and Komodo

Moon Knight vs the Enforcers

Movie Daredevil runs a gauntlet of movie Batmans

Movie Daredevil team vs Batman movies team

Movie Lizard vs movie Wolverine and MCU Deathlok

Movie Scott Pilgrim vs NF Iron Fist

Mystique, Lady Bullseye, Lady Deathstrike vs Tigra, Echo, Elsa Bloodstone

Neal Stephenson Battle: Hiro Protagonist vs Big Fish

NF Daredevil vs Philip and Elizabeth Jennings from The Americans

Nightcrawler vs Bug (Micronauts)

Nolan Batman vs Nicholson Joker

Number One (Umbrella Academy) vs Jessica Jones

Ochi of Bestoon vs Baze Malbus

Ochi (of Bestoon) and Rukh (Rebels) vs IG-11 and Cara Dune (Mandalorian)

Ochi of Bestoon and Moff Gideon vs Agent Kallus and Dryden Vos

Ogun vs Tujiro XIV

Old Guard (NF) vs Nobu and 4 Hand ninjas

Old Guard (NF) Vs SHIELD Team

Old Guard (NF) vs Umbrella Academy Commission team (NF)

Old Guard vs Watchmen team

Old Guard vs Misfit Live Action team

One Stormtrooper vs One Hand Ninja

Original Beast vs Mad Dog

Original Beast vs Moon Knight (moon powers)

Plants vs Zombies team vs ARBBHamsters

Princess Python vs Croc Master

Puma, Feral, Tigra vs Wolfsbane, Mad Dog, Werewolf by Night

Punisher vs Lady Bullseye

Qi'ra vs Magistrate Morgan Elsbeth

Rael Averross vs Aaylah Secura

Rahm Kota vs Kanan and Ezra

Ravagers (GOTG) vs Reavers (Logan)

Red Sonja vs Ka-Zar and The Phantom

Red Sonja vs Snake Eyes

Red Sonja vs Valkyrie

Ronin and Snake Eyes vs Thin Man and Blade

Rook/Drizzt-v-Legolas/Tauriel-v-Jack-Frost/Bunnymund

Ruby Thursday vs Devil-slayer

Sabretooth vs Doctor Octopus

Sauron (Marvel) vs Devil-Slayer

Scalphunter and Judge Dredd vs Paladin and Nick Fury

Scarlett and Vigilante vs Prowler and Killer Shrike

Scott Pilgrim vs Batman Beyond

Serpentor vs Khan (Star Trek reboot)

Shang-Chi and Xialing vs Fox Daredevil and Elektra

Shang-Chi and Xialing vs Number Five and Hit-Girl

Shang-Chi and Xialing vs Ozymandias and Ahsoka

Shang Chi (Secret Wars) vs Kung Fu Panda

Shang-Chi (Secret Wars) vs Mantis

Shang Chi (Secret Wars) vs Devil-slayer, Manslaughter, Foreigner

Shaolin Cowboy vs Afro Samurai vs Cowboy-Ninja-Viking

Shaolin Cowboy vs Ikari

SHIELD: Ruby and Zabo vs Mace and Ivanov

Shredder vs Grendel

Silver Sable vs Diamondback vs Moon Knight (throwing battle)

Silver Sable vs Scarlett (GI Joe)

Silver Samurai and Moon Knight vs Black Widow and Batwoman

Sinister Six team vs streetlevel Avengers team

Snake Eyes vs Black Panther

Snake Eyes vs Shang Chi

Snape vs Snoke

Spider Team vs Serpent Team, led by Serpentor

Spider-Man vs Hank Pym

Spiderverse Miles Morales vs movie Daredevil and Elektra

Star Wars rebels team vs C.O.W.L. team

Star Wars Rebels team vs Dawn of the Jedi team

Star Wars Rebels team vs Saga team

Streetlevel Villains Team 1 (Mr. Freeze, Pyro, Dr. Octopus, Grievous, Mysterio) VS Team 2 (Electro, Hobgoblin, Constrictor, Laserbeak, Ogun)

Streetlevel Villains Team 1 (Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett, Lizard, Kraven, Killer Shrike) VS Team 2 (Grim Reaper, Swordsman, Sauron, Morbius, Scorpion)

Swordsman and Morbius vs Blade and Tigra

Team from LOST (Sayid, Keamy, Ben, Locke, Mikhail) vs Hit Girl, Red Hood, Comedian, Dwight from Sin City, Stephanie Brown

Team from Lost vs Street level villains (Sin Eater, Paladin, Fancy Dan, Kingpin, Firefly)

Team Grendel vs Team Other: Hunter Rose vs Daredevil, Christine Spar vs Mockingbird, Brian Li Sung vs Kick Ass, Eppy Thatcher vs Jack O’Lantern

Team Saga vs Original X-men

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs All-Female Team (Batgirl, Hit Girl, Mockingbird, Black Widow)

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs Ninjago Ninjas

Thea (Season 4) vs Oliver (Season 1) CW Arrow (locked)

Tigra and Hellcat vs White Tiger and Black Cat

Toad vs Gollum

Trish Walker on Red Pill vs Trish Walker with Hellcat powers (MCU)

Tujiro vs Argent

Tujiro vs Grendel-Prime

Typhoid Mary and Grim Reaper vs Pyro and Wraith

Typhoid Mary and White Tiger vs Manslaughter and Domino

Usagi Yojimbo vs Ra's al Ghul

Vigilante vs The Phantom ("The Ghost Who Walks")

Villains royal rumble: Team 1 (Mr. Freeze, Pyro, Grievous, Kraven, Dr. Octopus) VS Team 2 (Constrictor, Death Adder, Electro, Sandman, Hobgoblin) VS Team 3 (Lizard, Morbius, Mysterio, Typhoid Mary, Boba Fett)

What If Captain Carter runs a female live action gauntlet

Wicket Warrick (Ewok) vs GhĂĽs (Saga)

Who could one Hand Ninja beat in a majority of fights?

Winloss and Nokk vs Tam Posla and Magna Tolvan

Wolverine vs the Wolverines (Red Dawn)

Zartan vs Daredevil

Zayne Carrick & Dass Jennir vs Inquisitors

Mid-tier Battles

2005/7 FOX DR. Doom vs Jonah (Runaways)

Adult Loki vs Adult Apocalypse

All versions of the Sinister Six vs Each Other

Archvillains of DC and Marvel: Doom, Loki, Thanos, Mr. Sinister and Ultron vs Luthor, Zoom, Darkseid, Sinestro, Black Adam

Ben 10 vs Ninjago Ninjas

Brother Voodoo vs Mother Talzin

Champion vs Kurse

Classic Marauders vs a team of classic Defenders

Classic Marauders vs an X-Force team

Classic Marauders vs some Guardians of the Galaxy

Classic Marauders vs Mutant Force and Friends

Current Magneto vs Classic Captain Marvel

Daimon and Ana Helstrom vs Ronan (live action)

Daimon Hellstrom vs Baron Mordo

Daimon Hellstrom vs Selene

Dani Moonstar (as valkyrie) runs a gauntlet: Blade, Puma, Warpath, Wrecker, Skurge

Darth Maul and Savage Opress vs Kao Cen Darach and Satele Shan

Devastator vs Way Big

Disir vs Team of Eleven Warriors (Valkyrie, Dani Moonstar, Acroyear, Black Tarantula, Lizard, Silver Samurai, Black Knight, Grendel Prime, Lady Deathstrike, Kit Fisto, Spiral)

Dr. Doom and Selene vs Enchantress and Morgan Le Fay

Dr. Doom vs Nimrod

Eleven vs Bee-tee and Triple-Zero (killer Star Wars droids)

E.V.E. (from Wall-e) vs Droideka (Star Wars)

Fantomex vs Mastermind vs Miracle Man

Giant guys (and gals) wild rumpus!

Gibson Praise vs Celeste Cuckoo

Gifted's Polaris vs MCU Quake

Gravik (Skrull) vs Karli Morganthau

Grendel-Prime vs E.V.E.

Grimlock runs the gauntlet: Armadillo/Triceraton, Thing/Wrecker, Captain Marvel/Warstar, Rom, Executioner, Dragon Man

Hammer and Anvil vs Fenris

Hammer and Anvil vs Wrecking Crew

Hotspur vs Eye Killer

How many can he beat? Vader vs Jedi anti-Palpatine team

Hulu Daimon Helstrom vs FOX Polaris

Hulu's Daimon and Ana Helstrom vs SHIELD's Lash

Hulu MCU: Daimon & Ana Helstrom vs Nico and Chase vs Cloak & Dagger

Inner Circle (The Gifted) vs MCU Avengers

Insane Donald Blake vs Mr. Hyde, Abomination, Namor, Hercules, Drax

Iron Lad vs Noh-Varr

Iron Man vs Rogue tag team

Jack of Hearts and Devil-Slayer vs Omega the Unknown and Typhoid Mary

Jack of Hearts vs Captain Mar-vell

Just Lucky and Lando vs Crosshair and Eli Vanto

Kamala Khan vs Bombshell

Kanan Jarrus runs a Luke Skywalker Gauntlet

Kevin Matchstick and Valkyrie vs Mr. Hyde and Rhino

Kevin Matchstick runs a gauntlet: Black Tarantula, Skurge, Wendigo

Kevin Matchstick runs the gauntlet (Tombstone, Scorpion, Warpath, Wrecker, Ares, Hulk)

Kid Loki vs Kid Apocalypse

Klaw and Darth Vader vs Selene and Cloak

Live Action Magic-Users: Sofina/Hermione/Magik vs Morgan Le Fay/Ana Helstrom/Sylvie

Living Monolith vs Maelstrom

Luminous vs Apocalypse Twins

Magneto vs Vector

Make a team of prequel Jedi to beat Sidious

Mandarin vs Firestorm

Maul and Savage Opress vs Saesee Tiin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto

MCU: Cloak & Dagger vs Ghost & Ana Helstrom

MCU Lash vs Whiplash

MCU Sif vs MCU Luke Cage

MCU Valkyrie vs MCU Gamora

MCU Vulture vs Yellowjacket

Micronauts vs old-school Guardians of the Galaxy

Mini-Godzilla vs War of the Worlds Tripod

M.O.D.O.K. vs Selene

Molly Hayes vs Griffin

Moondragon vs Asajj Ventress

Morgan Le Fay vs Magik

Ms Marvel vs Rom

Ms Marvel vs Vector

Nimrod vs Ultron

Ogun vs Sauron

Original Secret Avengers vs Original X-Force

Palpatine vs Durin’s Bane Balrog

Pong Krell and Ventress vs Luminara Unduli and Ki Adi Mundi

Power Pack vs Original Avengers

Power Pack vs Original Fantastic Four

Power Pack vs Original X-men

Power Pack vs the Incredibles

Power Pack vs Pet Avengers

Sauron (Marvel) vs Will o’ the Wisp

Selene vs Sauron

Sif and Valkyrie vs Shaak Ti and Aayla Secura

Skurge and Ares vs Valkyrie, Sif, and Andromeda

Smoke Monster from LOST vs Mindless Ones

Spider Ladies vs Asgardian Ladies

Spiral vs Daimon Hellstrom

Spiral vs Ruby Thursday

Sunturion and Damian Hellstrom vs Ikaris and Wiccan

Sunturion and Ghost vs Nimrod and Victor Mancha

Sunturion vs Selene

Sydney Novak (I am Not Okay with This) vs Eleven (Stranger Things)

The Outlaws (Sandman, Will o’ the Wisp, Rocket Racer, Puma, Prowler) vs the Loners (Turbo, Phil Urich, Ricochet, Darkhawk, Lightspeed)

Thor vs Valkyrie, Sif, Warriors Three, Heimdall, Balder, Tyr

Thundra & Arclight vs Frenzy & Sif

Transformer Combiner free-for-all (Devastator, Menasor, Bruticus, Superion, Defensor, plus Omega Supreme)

Treebeard vs Therizinosaurus

Valkyrie vs Luke Cage

Valkyrie vs Wrecker

Valkyrie vs Beast

Vector and Unus vs X-Ray and Nitro

Vector vs Unus the Untouchable

Venom on Venom vs Mister X on Weapon X

Victor Mancha vs Box (Madison Jeffries)

Wolverine, Iron Fist, Captain America vs Lizard, Tombstone, Kraven

Cosmic Battles

"Unbeatable" characters (Mangog/Trion Juggernaut/Lobo/Doomsday/Mr Majestic/Galactus-Seed Destroyer/Terminus/Kal Kent)

6 Cosmic Cubes vs 6 Infinity Gems (separated)

All versions of the Beyonder against each other!

Alpha vs Matthew Malloy

Annihilation Wave vs Builder Fleet

Annihilators vs Cosmic Heroes

Annihilators vs Cosmic Villains

Annihilators vs Earth Heroes

Annihilators vs Earth Villains

Annihilators vs Ultimates and Squadron Supreme

Annihilators vs Robot team

Annihilators vs Sith Lords

Annihilators vs Gotham Girl, Apocalypse Twins, Starbrand, Warlock (T-O)

Battle for most powerful Marvel team (original Defenders, Excalibur, Phoenix-era classic X-Men, and others)

Blastaar and Radioactive Man vs Skurge and Ikaris

Blue Marvel vs Star Brand (the original—Kenneth Connell)

Cormorant vs Griever

Current Avengers vs X-men Extinction team

Darth Sidious vs Asgardian Destroyer

Dormammu vs Arishem

Dweller in Darkness vs Null the Living Darkness

Etrigan and Quantum vs Vartox and Forgotten One

Etrigan vs Firestorm (Jason)

Even Older Scott Pilgrim vs MCU Thanos

Firelord vs Ikaris

Firelord vs Nova (Frankie Raye)

Gigan vs Voltron

Glorian vs Delinquent (Infant Terrible)

How many Infinity Gems does Thanos need to beat Galactus?

Illyana vs Eva Bell (Tempus)

Jack of Hearts vs High Evolutionary

Kahhori attacks Kamar-Taj

Kang vs King Loki (prep)

King Ghidorah vs King Caesar

King Ghidorah and Destoroyah vs Smaug and Trypticon

Korvac vs High Evolutionary vs Stranger

Kulan Gath vs Morgan Le Fay

Legion vs Firestorm

Legion vs Umar

Morgan Le Fay vs Karnilla

Omega the Unknown vs Wundarr the Aquarian

Overmind vs High Evolutionary

Photon (Rambeau) vs Richard Rider (Nova Prime)

PR Molecule Man vs LT, all Celestials, Galactus, and more

Quasar against your team of 5 Sith or Jedi

Summers Siblings vs Rasputin Siblings

Terrors of Titan: Dragon of the Moon vs Thanos

The Presence and Proteus vs Glorian and the Grandmaster

The Stranger vs the Dragon of the Moon

Watcher and Rachel Grey vs Magus and Morgan Le Fay

WOL Morg vs different set of Heralds of Galactus

Bracket Battles:

Fun/Themed

Axe Cop vs Adam West Batman

Axe Cop vs Impossible Man

Battle among Scourge's victims

Battle of Intangibles

Battle of the Danvers: Matrix vs Binary

Beast vs Leader (prep battle)

Black Panther vs Pink Panthers

Bookworm (60s Batman) vs Gargamel

Comic Movie Characters vs Themselves in Other Movies (this is the only battle NOT broken down by individual characters under the individual character threads)

Counting Coup: Black Widow vs Deathstroke

Counting Coup: Jessica Jones vs Spider-Man

Counting Coup: Silver Surfer vs Galactus

Dex-Starr vs Hairball vs Streaky

Doc Ock vs Maximus the Mad--prep battle

Doctor Octopus vs MODOK (prep battle)

Doom vs Frodo vs Hal Jordan: willpower battle for a GL ring

Elodie Yung Mania: Jinx vs Elektra

Enchantress vs Starfox (seduction battle)

Energy Beings: Zzzax vs X-ray vs Photon vs Living Laser

Frog Thor vs B'dg

Godzooky vs Bumblebee

Green Lantern Ring vs The One Ring to Rule Them All (locked)

Headmen vs Super-Apes

"Hobbit" Dwarves vs Live Action Comic Team

Kitty Pryde vs Red Ghost

Kung Fu Panda and Tick vs Scott Pilgrim and Adam West Batman

Kung Fu Panda vs Stitch

Lockjaw vs Krypto

Magus vs Magus

Mandarin vs Frodo and the Ringwraiths

MCU versions of the actual comics Defenders vs MCU villains

Pet Avengers vs Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters

Power Absorbers: Absorbing man, Amazo, Superadaptoid, Mimic, Rogue, Taskmaster, Awesome Android

Powerpuff Girls vs Impossibles (locked)

Prep battle: Kingpin, Ben Linus from Lost, Cigarette Smoking Man from X-Files

Prep Battle: Richards/Panther/Batman vs Dr Doom/Braniac/Apocalypse

Ray Park Mania: Snake Eyes vs Darth Maul

Ray Stevenson Mania: Firefly vs Punisher

"Scuttlebutt" and Beta Ray Bill vs "Ship" and Apocalypse

Shaggy and Scooby vs Dagwood and Garfield (eating contest)

Smiths vs Joneses: Agent Smith, Cats Eye, Boom Boom, Red Tornado, Red Skull vs Jessica Jones, Alejandra Jones, Firestar, Casey Jones, Rick Jones as A Bomb

Strength Increasers: Maelstrom, Strong Guy, Black King, Awesome Android, Rage

Teams from end of Avengers vs X-men #1

Terrax vs Ares vs Axe Cop

Thanos vs Future Foundation (prep battle)

Thrawn vs Ben Linus vs Odysseus manipulation contest

Tom (from Tom & Jerry) vs Wile E. Coyote in a race vs Scooby-Doo

Verity Willis vs Lying Cat vs Team of Liars

V v V (plus bonus round featuring V)

Warlock vs Warlock

Wilson Fisk (NF) vs Malcolm Merlyn (CW)--prep battle

Mac (Paper Girls) vs Mac (The Fix)

Links to the other lists:

Battles by Character, A-C

Battles by Character, D-G

Battles by Character, H-L

Battles by Character, M-Q

Battles by Character, R-S

Battles by Character, T-Z

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Ethics and the Incursions (New Avengers 21)

I want to talk about the ethics involved in the whole Incursion situation in New Avengers.

For those who don't know, this is how the Incursions work: 2 parallel universes come into contact with each other, with the contact point being Earth. This process takes 8 hours. If the 2 Earths touch, both Earths, and both of their entire universes, are destroyed. But, if one Earth is destroyed, then the other Earth, and both universes, are saved (until the next Incursion, which will take place between the saved Earth and a new parallel universe).

The Illuminati (currently Reed Richards, Dr Strange, Black Bolt, Black Panther, Namor, Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and Beast) fully understand this situation. They have, just in case, built a bomb that can destroy another Earth, but have avoided using it. They have managed to save our Earth several times without having to destroy another Earth directly by themselves, and so have avoided the crux of the ethical question at hand: is it worth it to destroy another planet in order to save your own planet as well as your universe and the other universe?

However in New Avengers 21 they finally have to decide whether to destroy another Earth. They now have no other choice: either destroy the other Earth, using their bomb, or do nothing, in which case both universes are destroyed.

After lots of hand-wringing throughout the series, all the Illuminati say they can't actually pull the switch to set off the bomb, offering various ethical arguments for why they can't. Finally Namor says he'll do it, and in fact he does, thus destroying the other Earth, but saving our Earth, our universe, and the other universe.

I believe Namor made the correct ethical decision, and the rest of the Illuminati are fooling themselves and even being selfish. Here I'd like to examine their arguments, and point out a classic case from ethics and philosophy that is a very similar situation.

The classic case is called the Trolley problem, and you can read about it here. Also, This American Life did a great piece on it, here.

The original version goes like this: a trolley is going down the tracks. If it keeps going on the same track, it will run over 5 people who are tried up on the track. However, if you turn a switch so it runs down a different track, then those 5 people will all survive--but instead it will run over 1 person who is tied up on that alternate track. Do you turn the switch and run the trolley down the alternate track?

An alternate version goes like this: The trolley is going down the track, and there are 5 people tied up like before. But, you can stop the trolley by dropping a large weight on it. As it happens there is an enormously fat man next to you. If you drop the fat man on the trolley, it will stop the trolley and save the 5 people, but kill the fat man. Do you throw the fat man off the bridge and stop the trolley?

In surveys, most people choose to flip the switch in the first example, but less people choose to throw the fat man over the bridge in the second example, even though in both cases they are making a choice to sacrifice one life instead of 5 lives. This is usually because people feel much more active and involved in the second case, like they are doing the killing, whereas in the first problem they are just flipping a remote switch and they feel less personally responsible for the single death.

I would argue that the Illuminati don't see that these two problems are basically the same problem. Let's look at what they say:

Reed says, "I don't think I can. I know it's a necessary evil. I know I would be saving hundreds of trillions of live at the cost of mere billions....But even with all things hanging in the balance...there is a line." So Reed is basically looking at the Trolley question directly through the lens of the Fat Man version, and saying that he won't flip the switch/push the fat guy: he would rather have 5 people die than be part of killing the one, or to put it in the case he's actually facing, he'd rather both universes die than be part of killing the one earth and saving the other earth and both universes.

Stark, Beast, and Banner all agree they don't want to use it without explanation. Beast and Banner have in the past however agreed that they feel like using the bomb would somehow make them lose their humanity. Beast says in 19: "What if this isn't an exercise in survival, but a question of humanity? You tell me--who here knows better than you and I the reality of that struggle...and how easily the human gives way to something less moral and more primal."

Strange won't do it, but only because he had already tried to destroy the planet through magical means, and the Illuminati stopped him, so he's mad at them.

Black Bolt doesn't say, but the implication is that he won't do it.

Then Black Panther, an ethical utilitarian if ever there was one, says he'll do it. He is backed by the spirits of past Black Panthers who say that he needs to do whatever it takes to keep his own Wakanda alive. This is a different argument than the trolley question; it's saying that our Earth, with our Wakanda, is actually more deserving of life, regardless of the numbers question. That's a whole different point and less defensible.

However Panther balks. He says, "The horror of it--the inhumanity. Murdering all those people. Killing a world. ...It's wrong." Then: "Shouldn't such [an act] be beneath us? The very nature of it...the ignobility of it."

Reed follows up with him: "When we got to the end of ourselves, we found that there were things we would not do. And you know, I am not ashamed of that. You shouldn't be either....It matters."

However, Namor counters: "'It matters.' The way you people talk about your lives---like they mean something. 'It matters.' I am the greatest man I know...but compared to this, I'm nothing. Just as you...are nothing...."

Reed tells him "it's not worth it."

Namor returns, "These lines you won't cross...these things you won't do..they SHAME you. How dare any of you put yourself--your damned morals--above the lives of every living thing? The truth is, you people aren't worth that...and neither am I. Our lives are a pittance." Then he sets off the bomb.

I would argue that Namor sees this problem correctly. (As he says, hilariously, next issue, they should thank him for doing it.) Among the others, Richards, Panther, Beast, and Banner are all arguing that their own personal feeling of sin/shame/humanity/self-worth are more important than the lives of everyone in both universes. In other words, they don't want to kill everyone on the one earth, thereby saving the rest of both universes, because they would feel bad--for the ten remaining minutes before they themselves are destroyed!

Namor explicitly points this out--he says they're putting their morals over others' lives. What would all the dead people in both universes care about how badly one person feels, compared to the fact that their own lives are ended?

And note that the other Illuminati aren't even necessarily trying to stop one of their compatriots from setting off the bomb for most of this conversation--Reed keeps trying to pass it on to someone else for a while. No one tries to stop Black Panther, for instance, although they do tell Namor to stop. By implication, they are OK with the other Earth dying, they just don't want to be the one to pull the trigger themselves.

I believe the Illuminati in this situation are completely off their ethical rocker, and Namor is the only one of sound mind. Basically I'm annoyed because Hickman is trying to present this as a legitimate ethical dilemma for the heroes, and I don't think it is. If the situation was, you kill one earth to save just your own earth, I could see it. That could seem selfish, although selfishness can still be defensible. But it not only saves your earth, it saves both universes. The choice is obvious. And for making it, Namor gets attacked by Panther and blamed for his actions by all the Illuminati in the next issue.

Anyway. Thoughts on the ethics of the Incursions? Does anyone agree with Reed/Panther/Beast/Banner? Any thoughts on the Trolley problem?

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Oldsters of the Vine, Represent!

I've noticed that on the "how old are you" thread and in other places, the old folks on the Vine (like me) often seem a little embarrassed about saying exactly how old they are. Usually they just describe themselves as "more than twice your age" or something like that. Sometimes it seems like there's only a few of us in an ocean of teenagers, which can make it feel like we're old fogeys crashing a youngster's game.

But hey, we like comics too. Nothing to be ashamed of, fellow ancient ones!

So, here's a thread for old folks to represent! Be proud! Come out of your old-age closet!

When did you start reading comics? How do you feel about being an old guy with all these youngsters around (what with their horseless carriages and all)?

Myself, I just turned 40 today, and I'm proud to be a firmly middle-aged man who loves comics. I've been reading off and on since the 80s, but I've probably never read as much as I do right now. I'm in a happy, comics-laden phase of my life, and I think it's actually a lot of fun to mix it up with people of all ages here.

How about you?

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Vote Obama #7/7: The 99%

OK, I'm going to see if I can do a short one for my last one (I'm also sneaking it in right after midnight because I'm too busy to write it tomorrrow!).

My previous topics were: GOP obstructionism/Romney shape-shifting, the importance of science, pragmatism vs ideology, health care, the Supreme Court, and the economy.

Today's theme is the 99%. By which I mean that Obama is basically out to help the average person, and the underprivileged, the minorities, the powerless. He's doing this economically, but also through a lot of other means. I think this is honestly one of the most important things government can do.

Here's a basic list:

The Consumer Protection Bureau has already come out with several major decisions and investigations that have helped everyday people protect themselves against corporate giants that normally take advantage of them. For whatever reason, the Republicans think this agency has TOO MUCH power. How is it possible for consumers to have too much power to protect themselves against mega-corporations?

Obama has helped the gay community by appointing more openly-gay people to the government than ever before, by repealing don't-ask-don't-tell, by endorsing gay marriage, by giving benefits to same-sex government employees, and by no longer arguing for DOMA in court.

Obama has helped women by passing the Lilly Ledbetter act, which helps women finally attain pay disparity (and which again is really important for everyone, because there are a lot of families headed by single women, so an increase in their salaries leads to an improvement in the lives of their kids), by expanding the availability of contraceptives and woman-centric health care, by increasing the funding for the Violence Against Women Act, and by promoting women throughout the government, including the Supreme Court.

Obama has regulated various companies that have taken advantage of normal people in the past, including banks, the real estate industry, health insurance companies, and polluters. By regulating pollution and other climate-change issues, he has helped everyone in the world.

Obama has helped immigrants by focusing on deporting criminals rather than otherwise innocent people.

Obama has helped veterans by improving the VA and all kinds of post-military programs.

Obama has vastly improved government transparency, putting up websites that let you track the stimulus and the budget in general, as well as releasing records of government visitors.

Obama has helped low-income people go to college by increasing Pell Grants, and made student loans cheaper by getting rid of the middlemen and making loans directly to the students.

Obama has increased funding for people with disabilities.

Basically Obama has worked hard to make life easier and less oppressive for everyday people who don't have a lot of power for themselves, who are often-discriminated-against minorities, and who need a leg up to make it in a world that is stacked against them. He lived the life of the underprivileged himself, as a biracial son of a single mom with a foreign dad, who lived in a third-world country (Indonesia) for a while as a kid, who quit a job working on Wall Street to be a community organizer in Chicago. I think he understands and empathizes with everyday, hardworking people in a way that his opponent can't even conceive. He stands for the 99%.

Obama is the guy. Vote for him!

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Vote Obama #6/7: The Economy

Today's theme is, yes, the economy. The economy which a lot of people think is Obama's greatest weakness, but in fact is one of his strengths.

Please don't show up and just make a comment like "but the economy sucks right now" without reading the rest of this.

How the Recession Started

The Housing Bubble and the Investment Banks

First, let's recall the story of the economy leading up to Obama's election. The housing market was in a bubble, meaning that it was making tons of wealth for tons of people because housing prices kept going up. Everyone knew this was a bubble, and that it would break sometime soon. Every real estate person and every economist said it would. But while it was going on, it was great. Everyone was making money hand over fist. In many ways, it was like the internet bubble under Clinton, except even more intense and even more widespread, in the sense that not everyone had internet stocks, but almost everyone with a house saw their assessment rise.

This bubble was enabled in part by mortgages that were given to people who could not pay for them. The banks who gave these mortgages certainly knew the mortgage-holders were going to default eventually, and certainly some of the mortgage-holders knew that too. Some other people were essentially tricked into taking the mortgages and told they would be fine. I believe both the banks and some of the people were to blame for this. However, this was not the biggest problem.

Investment banks took these mortgages and bundled them into investments that people could buy and trade. Then they took those investments and bundled them together. And then they bundled them together. This went on until the people at the investment banks literally didn't understand what they were selling any more. They were enormously risky investments, because they were built on mortgages that would eventually default, but barely anyone realized the extent to which that was true. The stock market kept going higher.

Then, eventually, the mortgages started to default, and the investments started to tank. The stock market tanked, and huge banks like Lehman Brothers went bankrupt. The economy basically crumbled. The banks had put way too much money in these investments, and lost it all, and had nothing left, and in fact they were massively in debt. But, we still need these banks in order to keep our modern economy running, so when they went down, so did the economy. Plus, housing prices all tanked at the same time. This meant that not only was our economic infrastructure down, but all the individual everyday members of the economy lost a ton of money too. Many people who thought they were doing great were in huge debt within a week. Tons of businesses went under, and tons of people lost their jobs.

I can offer a personal story here. I was trying to sell a house at the beginning of the housing recession. It took two years to sell it. It was basically a $100,000 house, and I lost $50,000 on it before I sold it. And compared to a lot of people, I got lucky.

Lessons

Now, why did this happen and what lesson can we learn from it? Basically the mortgage banks and the investment banks screwed up--they took too much risk. And they did this because in America its the law that any publicly held company has to maximize its profits, which leads to risk taking. They are in a sense required to take risks. The only ethical standards they are kept to, in terms of their customers or the other people they affect, come from government regulations. Both of these industries were highly unregulated at the time. This is because the Republicans controlled the government for most of the preceding years, and they are ideologically against regulation. They believe the free market should be free, not regulated. However, when something is not regulated, it does not necessarily act responsibly or ethically. It may make more money, but it won't be better for the people of the country. This is what happened to the mortgage and investment banks. The mortgage banks made mortgages they knew were bad mortgages. The investment banks made investments they knew were bad investments. But because they were not required to take anything into account other than their bottom line, they were allowed to do this.

So, the economy crashed essentially due to a lack of regulations, and due to the presence of risk-taking incentives, on the mortgage and investment banks.

President Bush then signed the TARP law which bailed out the banks and essentially saved the economy from even further collapse. No one wanted to do this but the banks were so inextricably tied into the rest of the economy that if they tanked, there would have been no credit in the system and literally almost no financial transactions could have taken place. So it was a good thing to do pragmatically, however distasteful to everyone. This money has mostly been recouped, incidentally.

Obama Takes Office

The Stimulus

In January Obama took office. He passed a stimulus bill made up of about one-third tax cuts and the rest was investment-based spending, including a lot on infrastructure--which the country needs whether or not it's part of a stimulus bill, since our roads and bridges usually get rated D or F by the engineers.

The stimulus bill worked pretty well, contrary to most people's belief. Here's just one analysis. It's an interesting bill, because the vast majority of every-day people think it didn't create any jobs, while the vast majority of economists think it did create millions of jobs. Was it perfect? No. But it did a pretty good job at what it was supposed to do, considering the context.

When Obama took office, we were losing a staggering number of jobs per month. We kept losing jobs for a while, but we lost less each month, and eventually began gaining jobs each month. Have we gained as much as we'd like? No. For three reasons, essentially: one, the Republicans have blocked pretty much every other one of Obama's attempts to fix the economy because they wanted to be able to say Obama failed. Essentially they preferred a political victory to fixing the country. This is not something they really deny, they make the case that the short-term loss during Obama's term will be offset by later gains under a GOP president.

Two, the economy can't really be fixed until the housing market has been dealt with, and this has been a real bear to do. Partly because the Republicans have blocked pretty much every attempt to do so, first because they don't want Obama to have any success, and second because they are ideologically against regulation, and it would take regulation to do it. Obama did get some regulation through, and that has worked to some extent, but not enough. This is also partly due to the banks' recalcitrance. Obama hoped that the banks, having destroyed the economy, would accept some responsibility for it and make it easier to fix the housing market. They have not, and it has ended up being a real problem. Now I do actually think Obama could have done more here, partly to force the banks to act, and partly to make house refinancing easier; I believe the process is too complicated (which I say as someone who has recently refinanced his house). But, it was a super-complex situation and nobody was going to get it perfect.

Three, Obama has been trying to put the economy back on a non-bubble path. No more internet bubbles, like the 90s, and no more real estate bubbles, like the 00s. This means slower, but more solid growth.

Eventually the stimulus money ran out, which was unfortunate. The now-Republican-controlled congress wouldn't accept another round of stimulus, because they were too focused on the long-term debt, which was not a real issue, and were ideologically against spending (although they weren't when they were in control of congress).

What's interesting is that you can actually track the effect of the stimulus by the schedule for when it ran out of money. Essentially, as it ran out of money, the growth of the economy slowed. It still grew, but not as fast. There's a pretty direct correlation between the stimulus and economic growth. A lot of the stimulus went to the states, and when they stopped getting the federal money, they started really having financial problems. The states, unlike the federal government, can't have a budget deficit, so they had to cut their budgets like crazy. This meant firing a lot of people. Now Obama tried to pass a jobs bill that would provide money to rehire a lot of these people, but the Republicans blocked it, so the decrease in the unemployment rate slowed down. Actually, if you just rehired all the government workers, like teachers, cops, and firefighters, that lost their jobs due to state budget cuts over the last few years, the unemployment would go down by about a full percentage point, which is another argument for more stimulus.

False Republican Arguments

Now Republicans currently argue against the stimulus for two reasons: that it increased the deficit, and that government doesn't create jobs.

The deficit is an issue, but it is a long term issue and pretty much every serious economist says that the first job is to improve the economy in the short term, so that the economy is healthy enough to deal with the deficit later. Obama has solid, moderate plans for dealing with the debt that includes both spending cuts and raising revenue. Pretty much every economist agrees that you need both to deal with the debt. If you just cut spending, the economy will tank. If you just raise revenue, you won't get enough money. Obama has the most responsible plan here.

Incidentally, when it comes to the debt, Obama has not added nearly as much as many people believe:

The charge that government doesn't create jobs is silly. Government creates jobs by hiring teachers, fire fighters, and police. It creates jobs by starting building projects for roads, bridges, and energy infrastructure that wouldn't happen unless the government paid for it. It creates jobs through the military and the defense industry. It creates jobs by running the national parks. It creates jobs in scientific research and development, both directly and by giving grants to other entities. The list goes on and on. Some of these are state jobs, but they only exist because the federal government gives the states the money so they can hire the teachers, etc.

Of course, they had a hard time arguing against the part of the stimulus that was tax cuts, because the entire Republican economic plan is based on tax cuts, so they partly tried to pretend they weren't in there. But they also said that the tax cuts that were in the bill were the wrong kind. The tax cuts in the bill basically went to everyday people and small businesses. Almost every economist will tell you this is exactly where you want tax cuts to go for a stimulant effect, because when a relatively poor person gets a tax cut, they spend it right away, and it goes back out into the economy. Poor/middle class people spend the money right away because ether don't have a choice--they are continually spending all their money just to take care of basic stuff like housing and food and college and whatnot. Whereas when the rich get tax cuts, they are much less likely to spend it. They save it instead, because they can. So it has no stimulative effect. Yet the Republicans thought the rich and the big businesses should get the tax cuts. They like to call the rich and big business the "job creators," but in reality they're just not the start of the job-creation train. They can't create jobs until there's demand, and there's no demand unless everyday people can afford to buy stuff. And they can't afford to buy stuff unless they get jobs, or they get tax cuts like the ones in the stimulus.

Now the Republicans used to believe this too. Bush worked his way out of the far-smaller recession in the early 00s through tax cuts. Economically speaking, tax cuts and spending are fairly similar. They both put money out into the economy. There's some benefit to spending because it doesn't last forever, while tax cuts are hard to get rid of once the emergency is over. There's also some advantage to tax cuts because they get into the hands of consumers immediately. Both of these techniques are part of what's called Keynesian economics. Basically the idea is that if you put more money out there, it stimulates the economy. So both the early Bush tax cuts and Obama's stimulus are Keynesian, and essentially the same economically. But now many Republicans are suddenly anti-Keynesian, and just don't believe government can do anything about the economy. Which is strange because the government certainly affected the economy when Bush tried it, and also in the New Deal, etc. It's pretty much obvious that it works. So this is another absurd reason why they are against it, even though it goes against almost all modern economic theory, not to mention almost all of the Republicans' actual history in congress.

Other Economic Strategies

Now one difference between the Bush and Obama tax cuts was how they gave the money back. Bush sent everyone a check, whereas Obama just took less money out of everyone's pay check each week. This was because a recent branch of economics called behavioral economics said it would work better--basically if you get a little bit of extra money each week, you'll spend it on essentials, whereas if you get one big check, you'll buy something random like a new TV. This makes a lot of sense. But unfortunately it also means that no one realized they were getting a tax cut, because they didn't look at the details of their paycheck. So tons of everyday people got a lot of money back--a family with an income of $50,000 got $3600 in cuts--and it helped the economy, but the stimulus bill didn't get the credit for all the positive effect it was having.

Another important tactic was the car company bailout. This saved General Motors and Chrysler, and in the process saved millions of jobs--not just the ones for the car companies themselves, but all the auto businesses that are related to it. They've gotten most of the money back from this, and it was a huge success. The companies are doing better than ever, which is great for American manufacturing and industry in general. This was originally portrayed as controversial, but now it's acknowledged as a great move on Obama's part.

Obama has also been trying to close the gap between the rich and the poor. The gap is far larger than it has ever been before. This causes a huge amount of social friction, but also means that the economy is less dynamic. This is partly due to the stagnant wages people get; people have not had true wage increases in some time, due to Republican blocking of any bills that attempt to fix that, because Republicans are against regulating the free market. Of course, when the free market gets the chance, it does what happens in any power system: the powerful take advantage of the powerless, and the everyday people get screwed. The free market is rarely good for everyday people. Unions, on the other hand, which Obama has supported--although not blindly--are basically responsible for all the improvements the modern worker has over his counterpart a hundred years ago--decent hours, decent pay, decent working conditions.

The gap between rich and poor has increased for a variety of reasons, but deregulation of corporations, leading to increased CEO salaries, and huge tax cuts for the rich, are certainly part of it. The tax rate for the rich used to be much, much higher in the recent past, as you can see below.

Note that the top rate used to be 94% and now its 35%. And none of these changes affected the GDP.
Note that the top rate used to be 94% and now its 35%. And none of these changes affected the GDP.

Taking this into consideration, it's ridiculous that the GOP is trying to say that increasing the rates on the top tier from the mid-thirties to the high-thirties is going to somehow hurt the economy. There is all kinds of data that shows that high taxes don't hurt the economy, and can actually help it. See here for a very in-depth look.

This gap is hard to close, but making the tax code more fair, trying to create higher-paying jobs in areas like energy and science, supporting unions, and raising the minimum wage are all things that he's been working on, and which are often antithetical to the GOP, which talks a good game when it comes to the education needed for high-tech jobs, but actually spends most of its time cutting education budgets and attacking science as a discipline. Obama has also created the Consumer Protection Bureau, which I'll talk about more tomorrow, which has already helped many many people against predatory lenders and credit card companies, which helps the finances of ordinary Americans. By working to improve the health care system, he's also reducing the amount most Americans will spend on this expensive part of everyone's budget. He's even signed a financial reform law that allows shareholders to vote on CEO pay, which was unheard of before.

He has also been working to make this a non-bubble economy, as I said before. A big part of this is his push for green energy. Green energy is clearly the long-term future for energy. It may become the majority of energy in 10 years, or 20, or 50, but eventually it's going to take over. We need to be on the ground floor of this if we want to take the lead in its production and science patenting in the future. It will not only help our position in the energy market, which is very important, but it will also help make jobs that are here in the US. Energy is a bubble that doesn't break; it's not like we'll ever need less energy. He's also tried to put an emphasis on infrastructure improvement, as in the stimulus. Our roads, internet communication pathways, and energy lines are all substandard compared to the past and to other countries. High speed rail is just one of the examples of something that can really improve this country's transportation, and which the GOP is against for god-knows-why. All of this investment is a place where government involvement is really needed, and the Republicans are ideologically against such investment. In fact, by putting in place new fuel efficiency standards for cars, the average family will save $8200 in gas over the life of a car!

I should point out that in general, Democrats have a better record for creating jobs than Republicans. In fact, Obama has created more jobs than Bush's entire 8 years (net). Here's a chart, and check out here for more info.

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In the long run, Obama has done as much with the current economy as anyone could. He approaches the economy by dealing with experienced, pragmatic experts, not ideologues who just advocate random tax cuts whether the economy is doing well or poorly. He greatly increased job growth from what it was when he started, he has gotten the economy out of recession, he has improved the real estate market and car companies, he has regulated the mortgage banks and investment banks so they don't cause such havoc again, he has invested in the future of our energy and physical infrastructure, and tried to make the country's tax policies more fair. On top of that he's made it easier for women to get paid equally with men, which helps entire families out, not just women in particular.

In terms of Romney, let me just quote this week's Doonesbury: "You know, it just amazes me that only a few years after the economy was brought to its knees by a gang of predatory Wall Street plutocrats, that the GOP would nominate a predatory Wall Street plutocrat!" I mean, this is a guy whose entire job that he's basing his run for the presidency for was based on buying companies, then firing a bunch of people in order to make more money for the CEOs and shareholders. This is a guy who is somehow going to help get people jobs?

Anyway. Obama has done a very solid job with this economy. I know it's not great yet, but it is much better than it was, much better than it might have been under other hands, and it is clearly going in the right direction. If he gets another term, he can stop fixing Bush's problems and actually move us in the direction of a long-term, non-bubble prosperity with well-paying jobs and a reasonably-regulated financial system.

EDIT: I should also point out that Obama was just endorsed by the Financial Times, which is probably the most-respected financial media outlet, as well as by Michael Bloomberg, who is also very well respected for his economic knowledge.

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Vote Obama #5/7

Today's theme is the Supreme Court. It's a little different from the last few, because this is one where "reasonable people can disagree," as they say, depending on your view of the Court's philosophy.

Wednesday's theme was Republican Congressional obstructionism and Romney's shape-shifting, Thursday's was the importance of preserving the position of science, Friday's was pragmatism vs ideology, and Saturday's was health care.

The Supreme Court has a huge effect on the nation's laws and culture, and the presidents who select its members have a huge effect on the Supreme Court.

Right now, the court is composed of 5 conservative members and 4 liberal members. One of the conservative members, Kennedy, is known as a swing-vote justice, and sometimes votes with the liberal members, but generally he votes on the conservative side, as in the health care case.

The members of the court are fairly old and it is reasonable to believe that one or more may retire during the next presidential term. From youngest to oldest, they are (L or C indicates liberal or conservative):

Elena Kagan, 52, L

John Roberts, 57, C

Sonia Sotomayor, 58, L

Samuel Alito, 62, C

Clarence Thomas, 64, C

Stephen Breyer, 74, L

Antonin Scalia, 76, C

Anthony Kennedy, 76, C

Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 79, L

Supreme Court Justices serve until they choose to retire, sometimes lasting for over 30 years, so any appointment can have a lasting influence on the country. For instance, Scalia and Kennedy were appointed by Ronald Reagan!

Ginsburg is generally understood to be considering retirement in the next term, especially if Obama is elected. Kennedy and Scalia may also retire soon, but probably wouldn't under an Obama administration unless they really had to for health reasons. But depending on what happens, the next president may pick one to three new justices. If a liberal justice retires under a liberal president, or a conservative justice retires under a conservative president, there's no real net change, but if a liberal retires under a conservative or vice versa, that president would have the opportunity to reshape the balance of the court, since it is so closely split.

Recent cases have included a handgun ban in Chicago, the healthcare law, censorship on TV, early voting in Ohio, campaign finance (Citizens United), and Arizona immigration enforcement.

Upcoming cases may/will include DOMA and gay marriage, more issues related to healthcare, abortion, affirmative action in university admissions, the trials of arrested terrorists, immigration, the Voting Rights act, and challenges to wiretapping.

To give an example of how the Supreme Court can influence the country, one obvious example is the health care case. I don't think I really need to explain why this was important, whether you are in favor of the ACA or not. Another case that has been extremely influential is the Citizens United case. In this, the Supreme Court basically said that groups can donate unlimited amounts of money to political campaigns. This led to the current SuperPACs that are making most of the political ads you see today. These groups are largely unregulated, largely anonymous, and since they don't report to the candidate, largely irresponsible. These groups used to be illegal and now they are some of the main funders of political ads, especially for the Republicans (they have just recently become factors for the Democrats in the last few weeks). So this is a great example of how the court has hugely impacted your everyday life (by creating an environment where you see so many of these ads) as well as the political landscape (since political advertising is now so unregulated and anonymous), which in turn could affect your life by electing presidents based on that advertising--not just now, but for the foreseeable future.

If issues like abortion, gun control, immigration, surveillance, war crimes trials, gay marriage, and anything else mentioned above (plus a host of other things) are important to you, you should make sure to vote for the candidate that represents those views, because the president that gets elected will probably get to influence them by his choice for the next couple Supreme Court Justices.

Personally, I believe in abortion rights, in moderate gun control, in immigration policies that don't involve the harassment of innocent people, in gay marriage, in the continuance of the Voting Rights act, and in limitations on wiretapping and surveillance, so I am in favor of the kinds of Justices that President Obama has chosen so far. You may disagree here. I'm not going to even get into the philosophy behind liberal and conservative interpretations of the Constitution in the abstract, because that could take a long time. I tend to have a view half-way between the liberal and conservative interpretations.

I believe that the Justices Obama has chosen so far (Sotomayor and Kagan) are, while liberal, also somewhat moderate and pragmatic in their liberalism, so they don't vote predictably in every situation, while the Justices that conservatives tend to demand their Presidents choose are more ideological and radical in their approach to the constitution. Alito, Thomas, and Scalia are all believers in radical constitution theories that had almost no hold in the court before they became members, and if they got a stronger majority would truly change the country by negating much of our past legal and governmental structures. Roberts is not quite so ideological, and Kennedy is much less so. Ginsburg is an example of strong ideology on the left, which I am not a huge fan of either, but in general the left-leaning Justices right now are no so extreme to the left as the right-leaning Justices are extreme to the right.

Of course, Obama has also made a mark on the court by appointing two women, one of whom is Hispanic. This may not seem important to everyone, but I think it is, for a host of reasons, from acting as examples to young kids thinking about joining the legal profession to the greater breadth of viewpoints that come from a greater breadth of kinds of life experiences. (Just as an aside, Obama has also appointed more openly gay people to his administration than anyone else.) (Also as an aside, the court is currently comprised of six Catholic and three Jewish Justices, which is a fairly unrepresentative sample of American religions, and they all have an Ivy League degree of some kind, which is hardly an example of diversity, so the court could in many ways use some more demographic shaking-up.)

In the end, I trust Obama to make good choices to the Supreme Court. He was a lawyer and taught constitutional law, and I think he has important insights into what qualities a Justice should have. I trust him to select people that are pragmatic and respectful of the Constitution and American jurisprudence.

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Vote Obama #4/7: Health Care

Today's theme on why you should vote for Obama is health care.

Friday's was on pragmatism vs ideology, Thursday's was on the importance of supporting science, and Wednesday's was on the Republicans' strategies of obstructionism and shape-shifting.

Obamacare, or the Affordable Care Act, has obviously been an extremely polarizing topic. A lot of the reason for the controversy around it has been due to the Republicans' extensive misinformation campaign about it. "Death panels," anyone? To see the effect of bad publicity on the ACA, consider this simple fact: when people are surveyed about the act itself, they are often against it. But when they are surveyed about its individual components, they are usually very in favor of it.

The act itself is really not that radical. I'm going to describe its basic components, then go over some of the standard complaints about it.

Consumer Rights

First and foremost, I see the ACA as a consumer rights bill. I don't understand how anyone can be against this idea. Basically what it does is keep the insurance companies from screwing you over. For anyone who thinks this is not a big deal, you really need to look up how the insurance companies have acted in the past. It has been a widespread practice of the insurance companies to drop people from their plans whenever the people end up having some major medical problem. Basically they're happy to take people's premiums every month, then when it's time to pay out for an expensive, long term hospital bill, they drop the people. They look for technicalities in how the forms were filled out, they say it was a pre-existing condition, they do anything they can. They often just make stuff up. It has been an incredible abuse of power and there is an extensive track record of it. It's the kind of thing you'd think was made up until you read the stories. I personally know multiple people who have been treated like this.

So the ACA says that the companies can't do this any more. No more randomly dropping people. This is incredibly important to consumers, and would NEVER happen unless it was made into law.

It also allows people to stay on their parents' insurance plans until they're 26. This is very important because many people don't have the money to pay for insurance until they're older. Myself, I didn't have health insurance between the time I graduated college until I was 29. Because health care in this country is basically dependent on having a salaried job (which is dumb in the first place), lots of people have to wait a long time before they get it. This helps close that donut hole of no insurance for many people in their 20s.

It also requires the companies to no longer have annual or lifetime limits for coverage. Right now, companies can say that once they pay out a certain amount of money to you per year, or over your lifetime, you can no longer get any more coverage. They won't pay for anything else. You're out of luck. The law makes this practice illegal--they must continue to pay for your health care over your lifetime no matter how expensive it is.

It also has a few other general benefits:

It requires the companies to say how much of your monthly premiums go to actual health care, and how much to random stuff like CEO salaries and profits. If the insurance companies don't spend 80% of their money on health care, they have to send you some of your money back! This has already started to happen--over 12 million people's plans required rebates this year.

It gets rid of the Medicaid Prescription Drug Program's donut hole, which was very costly to many seniors.

It also expands Medicaid to people whose incomes are up to 133% of the federal poverty level. This is important because right now, the states get to decide what percentage of the poverty level you have to be at to get Medicaid. For some states, it's 133%, or about $26,000 for a family. For other states, you can't get Medicaid if you make more than just $5000 for your whole family! Ironically, the states that use the lowest percentages are almost all traditionally Republican, so the people who would get the most benefit from this provision are largely Republicans. Here are more details.

In terms of cost-control, it has a few different mechanisms.

The first is the requirement that everyone has to get health insurance or pay a fine. The basic reason for this is that since more people will have health insurance, the insurance companies will have a greater overall pool of money, and they will be able to more easily pay off their payments to sick people. Right now, many people only get health insurance when they are already sick, or in a risky age etc. This means that the people the companies currently cover are more likely to cost the companies money. When more healthy people get insurance, there is more money in general, but less payouts as a percentage. So the system is more financially stable.

Second, the way a lot of people pay for their medical issues right now is emergency rooms. It is the law that emergency rooms have to cover people in trouble. So people go in, and they get help. But emergency rooms are about the most expensive form of health care, and also many of the people who go there can't pay, and default, raising the costs for the hospitals even more. So, by getting these people health insurance, they will go to actual doctors and not emergency rooms, and their overall medical costs will go down, and the hospitals won't lose a lot of defaulted bills.

Third, the bill creates places ("exchanges") where self-employed people can check out a bunch of insurance plans at once and compare them to each other easily. They're basically pools made for making it easy to compare and select plans. This creates competition and will lower costs for people who are self-employed, who right now have the highest costs. The pools are also required to charge no more than 9.5% of your annual salary in premiums.

Fourth, the bill puts a lot of emphasis on free preventative care. This means that doctors will try to get you help for small things before they become large things. They will do this for a lot more people than they used to, because there will be more people who are insured. Studies have shown that preventative care dramatically lowers the long term costs for an individual, because even though there are some small costs up front, they prevent the big expensive things down the road.

Fifth, there will a board of medical experts who study the use of health care and will make decisions about what kinds of care is unnecessary. This is one of the most demonized parts of the plan and is often described as rationing health care. This is not the case. One of the biggest reasons health care today is so expensive is that many people actually get more care than they need. Basically many doctors require all sorts of tests that medical experts know they don't need, they buy equipment that doesn't help, etc. Essentially, a lot of health care money goes to stuff that doesn't actually improve people's health. It's a huge problem. See here for details.

The bill also provides tax credits for small businesses so that they can afford to get the health care plans for their employees. Remember that not all companies need to get their employees a plan, only those with 50 or more workers, so super-small companies don't have to deal with the costs. People who work for these super-small companies get their insurance through the insurance pools described above. The people also get tax credits to do so.

There are a few arguments that people make against the ACA.

First is that it is a government takeover of health care. This is simply not true at all. The government will not be taking over the actual health care industry or doctors or hospitals or anything like that. The law mostly just controls the insurance companies and makes them act in a more civilized fashion. It doesn't do anything to affect your doctor or hospital. So it is not in any way, shape, or form a government take over of health care. It will just protect you from abuse by the health care insurance industry, and will lower prices (it could go farther in this department, which will hopefully be addressed in the future).

The second incorrect argument is that middle class people will now be paying for the health care of poor people. This is not true either. By making everyone get insurance plans, there will be more people paying for health care, and more people not using emergency rooms, which will actually lower premiums for everyone.

Another complaint is that people just don't like being forced to get health care insurance. Honestly, is this really an issue? Most people already have insurance, so it won't affect them at all. For those who don't, I just can't see the problem. Sorry to force you to be covered against possible catastrophic loses. This is pretty much exactly the same issue as seat belts. We make everyone wear seat belts because if they don't, then the people who get in accidents while not wearing them incur huge emergency and medical costs, which are then passed along to the rest of us via our insurance premiums. People used to think it was an important thing to be "free" to not wear a seatbelt because it didn't hurt anyone else, but it does--when you end up in the hospital, it costs everyone else money. The same is true for health care insurance.

Another manufactured complaint is that many people will lose their plans. In actuality, almost no one will lose their plans, and for the small minority that do, it's only because you will be getting a better plan. Some of the existing plans don't live up to the law's requirements, so they will be phased out and replaced by ones that do live up to the law. I can't see this as a problem.

There are often assertions that the ACA will add to the deficit. Actually, it will reduce the deficit; the exact numbers depend on how many states accept the Medicaid expansion.

There are often assertions that it will "kill jobs." This is not true, see here.

Romney has said he'll repeal the ACA, although he has also said that he would keep almost every aspect of it, because they're all very popular, except for the mandate. Now first of all, the mandate is mostly what pays for it, so if you keep all the benefits but cut the mandate, it's not financially viable. Second, he was perfectly happy to include the mandate in his Massachusetts version of the law, so what's the problem now? Third, when the Republicans wrote a healthcare bill to act as a contrast to the one Hillary Clinton proposed in the early 90s, what they wrote was pretty much exactly the same as Romney's Massachusetts bill and Obamacare, including the mandate. So it is utterly absurd for them to be against it now. They invented it!

Basically, I think the ACA is a huge benefit to the country. It protects us from the insurance companies, which are otherwise overwhelmingly powerful and have screwed over millions of people. It lowers costs. And it's paid for. I'm incredibly glad it's happening, and am incredibly fearful as to what would happen if they tried to repeal it. Do the Republicans honestly want people to be vulnerable to insurance companies again? On this issue, it's clear that we need to re-elect Obama and the Democrats in Congress if we want to avoid the horrors of the past when it comes to health care.

See this link to see exactly how the ACA will benefit someone in your exact demographic: http://www.barackobama.com/health-care/

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