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Anyway, even if the sub had 0 pounds (which it didn't) to push it through water would mean to push the water out of the way. Namely, he would have to push hard enough to move the amount of water that stands on top of the submarine. And, without a second thought, we are back at tens of thousands of tons.

And, again, he didn't shoulder press it, but he did brace the weight. now, stop being full of shit, go to the gym and load up a large weight on your back. Don't do anything with it, just support it. Then tell me how it's not a strength feat.

if it isn't you should be able to easily do 600 pounds.

Thats not how it works, Arthur does not have to lift all the water on top of the sub in order to make it move... especially not when the water just flows around it when it moves anyways... like it has to for the thing to even move in water. Again in the land of someone who doesn't understand physics, so really, just stop when you clearly know nothing John Snowman.

Are you just this stupid? Or do you actually not know the difference between swimming in the middle of the sea and standing on the ground?

If the scenario's were even remotely similar... so what are you even talking about here?

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@outside_85: yeah that’s true, they did mention that they had to keep the adamantium in liquid form or else it would be impossible to melt again.

Also, in The Wolverine, I’m pretty sure the silver samurai was also made of adamantium, including its katana, which could explain it cutting through logan’s Claws.

Kinda like unstoppable force meets immovable object.

true... though I thought they explained they had done something special to the Samurai's blade to make it able to do what it did.

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Hellboy of the galaxy: Ragnarok

I get what you mean.

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@outside_85 said:
@chimeroid said:

@outside_85: you know nothing, john snow.

He had to support the sub on his back.

Try to load your back with weight and see how much you can hold. He didnt rep the sub or overhead press it. He supported it with his entire body. Basically, it was the same as having great weight loaded on your back.

Now try and do it under water with an object that can float on it's own.

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@outside_85: that's like claiming superman lifting that building was due to the fact that he can fly

Well thats why he is keeping it 40 feet of the ground, so yes.

The Submarine wasn't floating. He had to lift it out of the water. It was only buoyant at certain depth. Moving it from that depth means having to move it's weight + moving it quickly means having to fight against the water drag and water is 8x denser than air.

Wanna talk about "try it" try to move an object through the water quickly, tell me how it goes. He threw that sub out of the water and it was airborne for good 30ft.

It wasn't sinking either, thus floating. He didn't have to do anything, but push it up to the surface is what he did. thus floating. Which gets easier when the sub is moving under it's own power and he can get up near the front and push it from there.

Yes, because he can technically fly under water.

Look it's very simple why this is not a lifting feat: There is not part in any of this where Aquaman is relying on any of his muscles to move that sub, it's the same when Superman simply lifts off the ground after Zod had rammed him, it has nothing to do with how strong they are but how much momentum they generate in the mediums of air or water.

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@outside_85: you know nothing, john snow.

He had to support the sub on his back.

Try to load your back with weight and see how much you can hold. He didnt rep the sub or overhead press it. He supported it with his entire body. Basically, it was the same as having great weight loaded on your back.

Now try and do it under water with an object that can float on it's own.

@outside_85: that's like claiming superman lifting that building was due to the fact that he can fly

Well thats why he is keeping it 40 feet of the ground, so yes.

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Well, but thats exactly the point isn't it? We've seen it can be melt, would the lightsaber be able to melt it?

Ah, but we haven't. We've seen the metal in a liquid state that has never been solid before.

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@outside_85:Sorry for being nitpicky, but in Comics Ultron always uses Adamantium for his more durable bodies - either Secondary Adamantium, which, while being much more durable than any Real-Life Metal, is still somewhat breakable by someone on Hulk's or Thor's Strength Level, or Primary Adamantium, which is compltely Indestructible, not including Matter Manipulation and Reality Warping of course.

I know, but at the same time I am taking the leap of faith in that Ultron cannot be 100% made of Adamantium the same way no computer is made 100% of one kind of material... like all his wiring and wires that send power around to his various engines and such have to be isolated somehow to keep his body from reacting on every single electrical current that's going through it.

Like I seem to recall that once during one of the Secret Wars (the one where Parker got the black suit), (an) Ultron was stopped by the Human Torch going nova and melting the insides while the outer shell remained intact... dont ask me how Captain America survived that hiding behind his shield 10 ft from them, but he did :S

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Aquaman, because it was nice to see a good take on a character that still has the whiff of Superfriends about it... which is the opposite of Ragnarok which was kinda like seeing the potential for epicness getting thrown out for the sake of comedy.

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@outside_85: what kind of a shit argument is that? Sure, he was flying with it, but he had to be strong and durable enough to hold it above his head.

One that understands physics better than you it seems. Durable he would have to be, strong? No... becuase none of what he is actually doing there has anything to do with his muscles.

Look when a swimmer gets into the water, it takes muscles to move around. As far as we have seen, Arthur can move around in the water seemingly at will without using his arms or legs, while he sometimes appear to 'jump' when he needs an ekstra boost in speed which he somehow then maintains indefinitely.

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Rather depends on whenever or not the characters need to breathe or are just holding their breaths. Also it depends on whenever or not Arthur has the very special trident with added kaiju power or not :)