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#1 Posted by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

@patroklos: Hmm, well that last one really depends on if you find breaking sentinels is impressive (considering how many of them theres been over the years and how they've all ended up broken).

That said, I did ask that question to see if DP blowing up a star really is the pinnacle of what she's actually done.

#2 Posted by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

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@outside_85: the thing is though that Tim has beaten Damian while the only time that Damian has gotten any kind of upperhand over Tim is when he suckerpunched him.....Tim is clearly a better fighter than Damian

How about this,Pre-Robin Tim vs Pre-Robin Damian,who do you think wins that bout?

I'd go with Damian there...Tim had little to no training before he became Robin....but by the time that Damian came around Tim had already gotten to his Pre52 prime...having trained with Batman for years and having gone through his training with Lady Shiva even having defeated Lady Shiva after his training

they've managed to talk up Damian's training throughout the years but he really hasn't done anything special since his introduction

Tim hasn't exactly done anything special either when you think about it.

taking down King Snake, beating Shiva twice (one was through prep) and all but bringing down the League of Assassins and getting some of the top praise available from Ra's in the process isn't special?

While it might be special, Tim's delivering a massive blow against the LoA seemed partly to be with Ra's permit and its not a combat feat because Tim did all that from Ra's computer.

And while taking down Shiva in any way or form should be considered impressive, for the sake arguing who is the better fighter, it is not valid because Tim was effectively cheating. In a way it's like saying Dick walked all over Deathstroke when he was Batman, and then remembeing Deathstroke was in a hospital bed after nearly being brain-damaged.

#3 Posted by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl said:

That makes the assumption that one of the big names would be willing to take on WW solo series. Didn't Morrison just wrap (or is in the process of) WW Earth 1? Seems like he's want to move to something else after just doing a totally different spin on the same character.

I'm certain there is a level of nepotism at play here ... nature of the beast in any industry really. But I'm not counting them out until I've read the first arc ... give them a few issues to make a few mistakes then decide how I feel once it's clear what direction they are really heading. Sounds like you are doing the same.

I imagine they are all busy doing other things or dont have any ideas for a run.

I am going to, but it will remain to be seen if it will be a book I am actually looking forwards to read or not.

#4 Posted by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl said:

@squalleon said:

She is likeable. But that was never the problem. Can she follow after a legend like Azzarello?

To be honest, for DC to take such a HUGE RISK, she must have a good vision for the character (still haven't read the whole interview, I will get back at it).

How huge of a risk is it really? She's been paired with veteran editorial staff and her husband is one of DCs "marquee" artists ... she's outlined 6 issues at this point so I'm certain DC has their butts covered. I also imagine that if the first 2-3 issues have terrible sales she'll be out the door with very little commentary about it. I'd be surprised if David Finch's contract and Meredith Finch's contract look the same.

It is a huge risk nearly regardless of who followed Azzarello because of a massive critical success his run has been. DC could possibly have pulled it off by tapping someone like Morrison for the job, who could have made things even more interesting than they are. But as it seems DC has with the choice of Meredith kinda signaled that they couldn't or wouldn't maintain or improve and are just controlling the loss.

Asides that, yes it can be it's going to be magnificent and the Meredith has a good strong vision for what she wants to do... hopefully thats what's gotten her on board, otherwise it's just the usual industry nepotism at work. (It's nearly a rule of thumb writers and artists give as advice to people who want to get into the industry; make friends with someone).

#5 Posted by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd go with Damian there...Tim had little to no training before he became Robin....but by the time that Damian came around Tim had already gotten to his Pre52 prime...having trained with Batman for years and having gone through his training with Lady Shiva even having defeated Lady Shiva after his training

they've managed to talk up Damian's training throughout the years but he really hasn't done anything special since his introduction

But only after poisoning her because he knew he wouldn't stand a chance against her, unless there was some other fight I don't know about.

Regardless of before/after, I am going with Damian being the better fighter. He has the upbringing aimed towards it, he had the resources and drive provided by his mother. What makes him worse than Cassandra however, is that Cass was not compromised, she wasn't taught anything besides fighting and she has better pedigree in Cain and Shiva.

What Tim had was a relatively normal upbringing, and a very big brain. When Batman was done training him, he was more than good in a fight, but he's still not the equal of Damian or any of the others save perhaps Todd, who still came with his street-knowledge.

#6 Edited by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: he was the guy who went looking for his wife Maria and found her in a locust casket dead practically. If you found your wife dead (hypothetically speaking) would you not be "moping" around.

Probably, but let be blunt here; he's a 600 pound dude, carrying another 600 pounds worth of gear, carrying a small cannon with a chainsaw mounted on the front and he's following you around throughout some pretty horrific battlefields and facing nightmarish monsters. Him moping about his wife as his (as I hear) defining character trait, is going to get boring if not irritating very quickly. And lets not forget, you aren't playing Gears of War for it's gripping story or deep characters.

Best sacrifice I can think of atm...

  • Captain America at the end of The First Avenger
  • Player/Players Dad in Fallout 3's end
  • Striker Eurika, Pacific Rim
#7 Posted by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

@csg_cl said:

@lvenger said:

@csg_cl: Well it's nice to hear that Meredith seems to have an idea of the core of Wonder Woman's character. What that core is to her seems to be unclear thus far. Also good to hear that Meredith doesn't plan to throw Azzarello's toys out of the Wonder Woman toy box though I am concerned the jump back to the mainstream for Wonder Woman's title will be instantaneous and rushed.

I also worry about it feeling abrupt, but I am much more comfortable with the characterization Meredith describes.

@outside_85 said:

Like I've said the first time I read this interview, which was when their takeover was announced; I am not thrilled that one of Meredith's building blocks for their run on the book is a nearly 40 year old TV show. It's fine if you are writing something like Batman 66 which aims to capture a certain tone that doesnt fit in modern comics, but they aren't writing such a book :S

This is a new interview from SDCC, not the original interview ... she gives a bit more color commentary into why the TV show matters to her and talks about reading Azzarello's run and what tone she hopes to strike with Diana ...

Doesnt matter, the contents is nearly identical. What isn't in this recent one is David putting his foot in his mouth.

#8 Posted by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

Dom killing himself in gears of war. Nothing in the history of ever can too that sacrifice! That was so beautiful. I cried.

Wasn't he the guy that was constantly moping about his dead family?

#9 Posted by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

Like I've said the first time I read this interview, which was when their takeover was announced; I am not thrilled that one of Meredith's building blocks for their run on the book is a nearly 40 year old TV show. It's fine if you are writing something like Batman 66 which aims to capture a certain tone that doesnt fit in modern comics, but they aren't writing such a book :S

#10 Edited by Outside_85 (8204 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85 said:

Are people still trying to argue WW will fall over because of some pathetic bullets and a few knives?

Well as it is her weakness why not it isn't impossible, she is outnumbered....

She is also much, much faster than any of her opponents and has deflected a literal rain of projectiles.

Piercing weapons might be her only weakness, but the fact remains it is no kryptonite and it's a weakness that's nearly impossible for anyone to actually exploit because her signature move is to deflect whatever is aimed at her or a taget she is protecting. Look at this, not even Stark has a gun that fire a million rounds a second from hundreds of angles and yet Diana deflects all of them, even if it is difficult:

Even if some argue she has to focus on Thor for whatever reason, Diana is both fast enough and capable to noticing when someone tries to shoot her in the back. They can try ofc, but it will almost certainly only end in Diana blocking it without having to turn her head.

Also, she is possibly the greatest h2h combatant on DC Earth because of the combination of skill, speed and power. So throwing a number of opponents at her is going to end up like Neo fighting the tide of Agent Smith's in Matrix Reloaded.