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You make a good point but I don't think Marvel/Bendis are too concerned with details at this point and are hoping we will just accept it. The X-men act as if the moment the O5 go back Xavier will mindwipe them and that will be the end of it when that reasoning is just stupid. If Xavier mindwipes them then he will see everything they saw including his own death. He would obviously take steps to prevent certain events and thus change the timeline.

To be fair yeah it's not like the Avengers have to tell them anything considering they're not happy about them being there in the first place but when Wolverine and Kitty treat them the same way it really irritates me. Kitty especially has started to annoy me because as far as being the mentor to all 5 original X-men the only one she really talks to is Jean.

I don't think Scarlet Witch being an Avenger will ever be explained at this rate. I'm loving all the drama in this series but whenever anything really big comes up we never see any sort of conclusion, it's just left hanging there. When O5 Cyclops met his future self he talked with him for barely 5 minutes you would think he'd want a detailed explanation or something. The whole Scarlet Witch being an Avenger is just brushed aside with "it's complicated". When Scott handed Jean the wedding invitation at the end ANX #7 NOTHING HAPPENED! Neither of them have even spoke to each other for 5 issues!

The series is good, the art is good but all these unfinished conversations are killing me!

Also when is Bobby gonna get some focus?

Morrison didn't like her because she was too perfect and powerful. Realistically who could challenge her? Even when their marriage was destroyed it was because Scott cheated on her even though Jean and Logan have been flirting and kissing for years. Jean was easily the most likely to have an affair but she came out as the victim. To an extent Emma is right in calling Jean a sacred cow. Like I said everybody loves Jean Grey and they NEVER say anything bad about her at all Logan even named the school after her.

Emma Frost may not be liked by the other x-ladies but that's what helps create drama. If everyone got along all the time then it would be pretty boring. Yes the other X-ladies are nice like Jean Grey but they still have other sides to them. Rogue is sometimes a loner, Storm sometimes acts like a queen and pacifist, Jubilee can be immature. Jean is just always nice and if she ever does get angry at someone it's usually their fault.

Again Morrison killed her off because Jean was a character that had no stories left, she had finally gained control of her powers, she was married and set to run the school. Either he repeated earlier stories where she lost control, killed her or made her do something completely out of character. Emma has made the comics interesting because of her villainous past. It was never clear whether she was truly loyal to the X-men. Rogue finally mastered her powers and became a darker character in some aspects. Storm married Black Panther and became Queen of Wakanda. All of these made for interesting reads.

It wasn't disgusting what the cuckoos did at all. Jean was reading every ones minds like she had a right to do so. Even when Kitty told her not to she carried on anyway. The cuckoos taught her a lesson that needed learning.

The end point is that Jean has become too perfect. Nobody can match her power level. She is liked by everyone and that's what causes problems.

Jean Grey did become too perfect though that was why Morrison ended up killing her off. She never did anything that shocked or excited anyone in the later years. Other than Emma Frost was there anyone in the entire marvel Universe that DIDN'T like her? She was the ultimate telepath that no one could defeat and that couldn't be killed either because of the phoenix, that's why she decided to stay in the white hot room, Morrison had to come up with a reason for her to stay dead.

The reason this new Jean Grey is getting her ass handed to her is because she's inexperienced plain and simple. It took the original Jean years to master her powers is it really that shocking to see the Cuckoos beat her?

The X-men are outdated? The X-men are everywhere at the moment doing all kinds of different things i.e. Time travel (All New), School (Wolverine &), Fugitives (Cable and the X-force), Revolutionaries/Terrorists (Uncanny), Some have become Avengers. All that while still leaving out adjective-less, X-force and astonishing. What is your definition of outdated?

Spider-man has changed considerably over the years from being a solo hero to an avenger, a member of the FF to now being possessed by Otto Octavius. He got married although the marriage got retconned, became a teacher etc. What sort of change do you want?

I agree that IMO the FF were never that cool but have you given them a chance? I never did yet all I hear these days are good thing about the series in general.

The Hulk has never interested me but he isn't always just a mindless brute.

It seems like you're just bashing characters without bothering to read the material :/

It depends on which Hulk Arkillo is fighting. If it's savage Hulk then yeah Hulk probably win but if it's Banner/WWH the Arkillo could use his fear of never being normal again, his fear of hurting his loved ones, never being left alone, never being in total control etc.

IMO The problem with all these events isn't that there are so many but that it's always the same plot. Fear Itself/Avengers Vs X-men/Siege/Secret Invasion all were basically Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Wolverine and Spider-Man vs a Major Threat. Even now in Age of Ultron Wolverine of all people is the star with Sue Storm living up to her name as the Invisible Woman! How about an event where Gambit, Johnny Storm, Cyclops, She-Hulk, Red She-Hulk, Daredevil, Captain Marvel and Iron Fist (and every other overlooked character) are the main heroes? Give me that story Marvel!

I think people are forgetting that Arkillo isn't going to use brute force. After seeing the Hulks strength he's going to use the Hulks fear against him.

I probably like him now more than ever since he started calling out all of the BS of the rest of the marvel universe.

Cyclops gets an unfair amount of hate especially when you compare him to other characters. I mean there are so many double standards placed on him. He creates x-force and Beast hates him yet Wolverine does the same and he gets a free pass? He gets so much hate for cheating on Jean even though she cheated on him first. He kills Xavier and his punishment is life in prison meanwhile Wanda decimates the Mutant race and is now a member of the Uncanny Avengers without having any sort of punishment. Other characters get a free pass while he just gets labelled as the worst person alive.