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@wolverine08: Wolverine kills when he believes it needs to be done even if nobody else agrees. There are also countless occasions where he could have incapacitated enemies rather than kill them.

The X-Men are not constantly arguing with the Avengers. Other than in AVX they haven't had much interaction with them and in the current x-books the Avengers have appeared for about 1 issue and then the series would move on.

Other than the crossover between All New and Uncanny the X-men haven't been arguing with each other.

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What? There's DLC for your DLC's! Why didn't they include that before? or atleast give it as free updates for those who got the DLCs, obvious cash grab. DLC's that you can't get with the season pass. Oh and how about DLC (lobo) being announced a day after the games release? It's apparent they cut characters out and just put them on as DLC.

There's a period between development finishing and the release date of at least a few months so in this time they started on new characters.

Give the characters as free updates lol in the end it's a business. You don't have to buy the characters if you don't want to.

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Frankly, in the past couple of years I have grown tired of the X-Men (besides Wolverine).

There incessant, puerile, arguments with each other that mirror soap operas have worn thing with me. Most of them have become hypocrites (Cyclops and Beast are glowing paragons of this), and their constant whining and arguing with the Avengers for not holding their hands like children doesn't make me pity them, it just makes me grow less fond of them.

Honestly, I really don't understand why the X-Men are focusing on regular humans hating them, and thinking that they are their biggest threat, because the X-Men are their own worst enemies.

You complain that Cyclops and Beast are hypocrites but what about Wolverine? The savage, honorable samurai, headmaster, family man, loner, who is part of two teams (Avengers & X-Men) that don't kill but he slaughters people in the hundreds (even after x-force).

The X-Men are not constantly whining that the Avengers aren't helping at all. Most of the time they don't want anything to do with them.

The whole point of the X-Men was mutant prejudice. If that isn't the focus of the series then they would be just like the Avengers.

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In the comics world he is definitely an A-lister. But to the general public he's B-lister at best.

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@madame_mist said:

While Scott was going through his man pain period in New X-Men, Jean got sh*t done.

What did Jean get done? (That's not sarcasm I genuinely can't remember)

I would have to say Scott was and still is the best leader for the job. Yes Storm and Jean have more heart than the more ruthless types like Cyclops and Wolverine but that's why I rule them out. Wolverine and Cyclops accepted the reality of the situation they were facing after M-day and it led to the creation of X-Force. It was morally wrong, It created trust issues with the other X-men and put relationships under strain (Cyclops/Beast & Wolverine/Storm) But most of all it was necessary.

People love to say that if Storm/Jean were in charge things would have never gotten so bad but they never give examples. How would Second Coming have been handled if Storm were in charge? Would Jean have bolstered the X-mens ranks by accepting Magneto?

Cyclops and Wolverine are the leaders we need.

Did you happen to miss Schism--or have you also only read Fraction's run on UXM ?

Wolverine was written poorly in schism and was forced by writers to go against Scott just so WatX could be made. Up until that point Wolverine and Cyclops were complete bros and agreed on everything.

I don't really get your point?

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@acer51: See him taking her Phoenix Powers is constantly taken out of context in my opinion. In the AvX tie in, Uncanny X-men 18, while the Avengers and X-men were attacking them on the physical plane, Emma and Scott were talking telepathically. During this conversation Emma admits to feeding him the "thought" of human blood, having a mental affair with Namor while he destroyed Wakanda and continually told Scott they should unleash there full power and destroy the "ingrates" to which Scott attested. The final time she does this Scott says "we can't go on like this" and " I'll take it from here". Then he attacks her in the physical plane robbing her of her portion of the Phoenix Force. I think he did this to save everyone and ultimately thought he would be more responsible with it. Clearly he was wrong and it was too much for him to handle. I don't think he betrayed her, I believe he prevented the woman he loved from committing an atrocity. He would have done the same thing for Jean. I just wish this exchange was shown in the actual AvX issue rather than the tie in. It's paramount in understanding why he did it. Anyone who just read the main series gets the impression that he just choked her out for the heck of it.

Yeah it really should have been shown in AVX itself but then so much was missed out in general.

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1. Raven

2. Kyle Rayner

3. Hawkgirl

4. Shazam

5. Black Adam

6. Superman

7. Aquaman

8. Deathdtroke

9. Wonder Woman

10. Saint Walker

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I clicked on this cause i thought it said young justice not justice league

I clicked on this thinking I would get to read a well thought out argument. So I guess we both came to the wrong place.

I loved the bit about the Justice League fearing that the Teen Titans would take over the world though. Gave me a good laugh.

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1. Shocker: Why did Marvel make him into such a joke?!?! His costume is badass and I wait for the day when he is written as the top tier villain he is meant to be.

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2. Symbiotes: Awesome powers/costumes/personalities/hosts. Doesn't matter whether it's Carnage, Venom or any of the others. nuff said.

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And finally the UNCANNY X-MEN!!! Now seen as dangerous terrorists they're technically villains (depending on where your allegiance lies).

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Never liked the Xyz or Synchros. They became some the most overpowered cards in the series with tons of support.

Personally I always preferred the themed decks like in the shows i.e. E-Heroes, D-Heroes, Harpies.

But my personal deck: Gem-Knights!!!