Oshtur

@tron_bonne said:

Galactus died or was near death so many times, it should be quite obvious that he isn't capable defeating something much higher than the people capable of defeating and killing Galactus.

And we never see Cyttorak like this why?

How can Magneto win this?

Frost Giants although Iceman is more creative with his powers. And Sub Zero is the best h2h fighter.

Juggernaut will still win because everyone is missing one important thing. Everything in the universe is moving by the gravitational constant of the universe. So if Juggernaut is remaining still, he is still moving.

Thor

• Control the Weather indirectly
• Summon lighting
• Hammer can firing a bolt of lighting
• Hammer can open portals
• Can use hammer to fly
• Hammer mystically returns to hand
• Has super strength above 100 tons
• Has bullet proof durability
• Ages really slow and can't die by natural wellness

Juggernaut

• Gem automatically grants limitless strength over 1 trillion tons and up
• Gem automatically grants you limitless durability
• Gem grants you limitless stamina
• Gem grants you limitless endurance
• Gem grants you knowledge of magic spells
• Gem can allow you warp reality
• Gem can allow the mind of its users to grow
• Gem can allow the users to grow into incalculable heights
• Gem can allow its user to shrink objects
• Gem can alter probability
• Gem can open up portals
• Gem can allow its user to teleport
• Gem can activate an impenetrable forcefield completely invulnerable to any physical assault.
• Gem can absorb momentum Gem can redirect momentum
• Gem can allow user infinite amounts of momentum
• Gem can mimic powers
• Gem can allow telepathy
• Gem can warp space
• Gem can allow user to fire bolts of mystical energy from hands
• Gem can allow user to fire globicals of raw energy from body
• Gem can allow user to breath in space, water, sand etc.
• Gem can allow its user to walk on air or in space
• Gem can allow flight.
• Gem will allow you capabilities to directly fight abstracts
• Gem allows its user Eternal Immortality

Someone told me Rune King Thor is abstract level? truth?

Shuma will just allow Kal to smash at it until it wakes up. Once Shuma drains all of the sun's power, Kal won't have any reserve left to fight and one swing of a tentacle would do the trick. 

@Oshtur said:

@Illuminatus: Wasn't it you who wrote that blog about how Fear Itself can't be taken seriously?

No, seeing as I've never even written a legitimate blog on this website.  
 

I already told you that one arc doesn't equal consistency of a 60 year time period.

A 60 year time-period in which Cyttorak rarely appears or is even mentioned. Obviously, he's not as powerful as you like to claim he is because we never see him do anything notable.

@Oshtur: You mean as of recently Cyttorak having his realm broken into by a mid-low mage and got taken by surprise? And then his new Avatar admitting that Kurrth was stronger, faster and overall more powerful than he was? Or initially how he had 7 other equals to himself and then he was banished from earth?

He's not as impressive as he was initially. The guy has been pretty much retconned and put in his place by authors.