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Celestials are pretty nigh-invincible. An average Celestial was taking hits from Odin, Agamatto, Phoenix force, Starbrand, and company.

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@omgomgwtfwtf: Not sure how to properly quote on mobile, so I'm just going to address the one point that stood out to me.

"3. Merlin can dispel magic on a whim (she has used three different types of anti-magic in the series so far). Considering that the OP equalized magic and reiatsu, Merlin would honestly just disable Team 1's zanpakutos. They have absolutely no counter for this. None whatsoever."

Care to explain how she deals with Ichibei's power? Yhwach literally stole his power away from him, and he literally willed it back. His conceptual hax vastly trumps her's.

Because Ichibei's power is only by concept 'a hax'. He has no feats. His only feat is losing to Yhwach. There is absolutely nothing to base his powers off. His war potential of wisdom has no barring in this fight as he knows nothing of the Seven Deadly Sins as they are from a different universe. The same applies to Aizen and Urahara as they have no adequate time to prep or analyze their targets.

Merlin has shown the capacity to completely dispel magic that otherwise cannot be dispelled by normal means. For example: Perfect Cube.

And for magic that is greater than her own, she has shown the capacity to at least seal it for a period of time.

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And to give some background on Gowther, he's the magnus opus of one of the greatest mages who ever lived in the Nanatsu No Taizai verse.

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The greatest mage in the entire demon realm. So great in fact that the Demon King imprisoned him because he was that much a threat.

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Ichibei's supposed power over names and control over black stuff is so poorly conceptualized or understood that it's impossible to actually legitimately put an argument for it. You can't adequately gauge his powers because his only feat is losing to Yhwach. The same guy whose own power is poorly understood.

Also, I don't see how Ichibei's powers keep him from being mentally manipulated by Gowther.

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How I see the fight happening is that once the fight begins, Gowther would start by reading everyone's minds.

Then him, Merlin, and Meliodas would come up with a plan. They will remain in constant communication via telepathy.

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But without a telepath on the Bleach team, they have no defense against Gowther's complete mental domination.

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@temporal_shift said:
@narutobleachfan said:

So 30 Kilometers, 3 x bigger than the one that ended the dinosaurs? The whole measuring meteor is useless in the calc, the person clearly says that if Kenpachi swung that much force into a Large Island like he did with the meteor he would destroy it.

So yes, he's Ireland level lol.

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No the city is 20 miles can you not read the Calc?

so no he's not Ireland level.

I swear to god you're one of the worst people I have ever seen on this site. Seriously you make people like the Beard of Zues and Zuriel-el look like Skilled Debators.

Let's just take one more look, just O.N.E

Meteor's radius = 4465.5 m

Volume of sphere = 4/3*Ï€*R^3

V = 372991466667 m^3

I'm not sure if you know what the m means, but it means "meters"

So the Volume of that meteor was 372991466667 meters....cubed. That's already 231766152 Miles or 372991466 Kilometers.....cubed.

I don't really to spell all this out for you, congrats you have the diameter of a sphere. Here's your cookie.

And the meteor was "Large Island Level" and Kenpachi destroyed it in one swing.

KE = 1/2mv^2

KE = 2.238e21 Joules (534.9 Gigatons of TNT) Large Island level+ (Low end)

KE = 2.76e21 Joules (659.7 Gigatons of TNT) Large Island level+ (high end)

Literally the first comment of that page was "So ............ kenny, gremmy, Byakuya, Toshiro, Jugram, Uryu and gerard gets downgraded to large island level? Does anyone else scale to this?"

Now don't tag me again unless if you have something meaningful to say.

I have one comments.

1) How were you able to determine the KE of the meteor with its velocity? Your calculations skip that part entirely. I may be missing something.

You cannot determine the kinetic energy of the object without the velocity.

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@omgomgwtfwtf:

Anyone on the team have durability to not get one shot or speed to not get blitzed?

None of them are going to even notice they’re under KS and aizen just makes them think they’re winning through your scenario lmao.

KS still requires Aizen to actually activate it. Case in point: Ichigo has never been under its effect since he never seen its release.

And yes, several characters on the Seven Deadly sins are certainly durable enough to take hits, i.e. Ban, Meliodas, and Escanor.

And not of your characters speed blitz in character. Even if they did, I have not seen anything to suggest they are much faster (or even faster) to initiate a speed blitz.

What the Seven Deadly Sins have over the Bleach team are the following:

1. Teamwork. The Seven Deadly Sins have been working together for 20+ years, while Meliodas, Gowther, and Merlin have been comrades for over 3,000 years.

2. Seven Deadly Sins have an actual magic user and telepath. Both of whom have so much utility potential and team support that they would dominate, i.e. Gowther and Merlin.

3. Merlin can dispel magic on a whim (she has used three different types of anti-magic in the series so far). Considering that the OP equalized magic and reiatsu, Merlin would honestly just disable Team 1's zanpakutos. They have absolutely no counter for this. None whatsoever.

For example, how would they counter this?

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Or this?

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Gowther can literally fire 'Jack' rapidly. There is no way Team 1 is dodging these considering that Kenpachi and Ichigo don't routinely dodge attacks. Especially not Kenpachi, he would fall right into it just like what happened when he fought Pernida.

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And to any physical attack, welcome Merlin's perfect cube. The perfect counter to physical attacks. It will block attack and redirect it back at the attacker.

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Admirals are physical more stronger than the 10 Commandments, but they have absolutely no counter to the commandments' effects.

Also, they have no way of countering Melascula's soul manipulation.

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Seven Deadly sin wins because of better teamwork (being an actual team) and the fact that magic and reiatsu have been equalized.

Merlin is the MVP here. Anything the shinigami try to use she would simply just dispel. Combined with the fact her power has been canonically described as hax, she could deal with the majority of the team alone while her teammates act as meat shields.

Also, Gowther's telepathy is way too much for team 1 to handle.

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Ichigo has the most raw power here and the team has enough intelligence and hax to win both rounds.

Disagree

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Seven Deadly sin wins because of better teamwork (being an actual team) and the fact that magic and reiatsu have been equalized.

Merlin is the MVP here. Anything the shinigami try to use she would simply just dispel. Combined with the fact her power has been canonically described as hax, she could deal with the majority of the team alone while her teammates act as meat shields.

Also, Gowther's telepathy is way too much for team 1 to handle.

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@atomix:

Let me break it down for you so you can understand.

The writters said that he can destroy omniverse not a multiverse and isn't just Ben 10 multiverse but cartoon network multiverse you can't say that Marvel universeis bigger than CN multiverse

Please show me where it was ever stated that the the Cartoon Network Universe is connected to the Ben 10 universe. That is bullshit otherwise. On the other hand, all of Marvel's publications are considered interlinked as separate alternate realities in a larger continuum.

Also that is a statement from a writer not a fictional chracters and in the episode " Ben again " Eon via Paradox's power source was going to destroy the multiverse and the Celestialsapien are more powerful than Paradox

That had nothing to do with sheer power. Eon was destroying the world because he was breaking the time stream. The same thing happened when Kang the Conqueror fought Ultron. I guess going by your logic, Ultron and Kang are multiversal+ beings.

Dwayne MCduffie and many other writers said Alien X is omnipotent its a fact

Stan Lee has also stated the same for Galactus. He stated so in the Fantastic Four comics that he authored and in a recent Twitter question:

https://twitter.com/TheRealStanLee/status/512437038558113792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I find this entire dialogue pretty ironic considering that you completely invalidate your own argument. You claim that Alien X is omnipotent, but says he requires six thoughts to actually destroy the Ben 10 omniverse. That by it's own volition is contradictory to what is claimed.

Since I don't want to discuss this point any longer, this will be my last point on the matter.

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@mudamudamuda:

Interesting post you have here. But are a couple of issues that I would like to address. This is not a comprehensive rebuttal, but merely a reply to several points that you have made. As I mentioned in the group PM, I don't have internet in my apartment. (I'm currently on my university wifi.)

Now to move on to the issues that I have noticed from my quick read of your rebuttal.

Prior knowledge

You are arguing from a point of prior knowledge. Every strategy and counterpart you mentioned is from a position of having intimate knowledge of my characters. The error in this nature of argumentation is that our characters have zero knowledge of each other's abilities. So drawing out explicit counters that your characters wouldn't know is logically unsound in this sort of debate.

Genjutsu - Illusion fallacy

The comparison you are making between genjutsu and Gowther's invasion ability are erroneous given that they operate on very different principles. Being capable of releasing oneself of genjutsu doesn't automatically equate to being able to dispel all forms of illusions. The effects may be the same, but the means by which they are achieved are very different. Being able to manipulate your own chakra plays little role in dispelling Gowther's illusions. Sasuke's ability to see through genjutsu is because genjustu manipulates one's senses. Gowther's ability Invasion manipulates the mind, not just the senses.

Gowther's powers

I feel that there is a bit of confusion regarding Gowther's invasion power. It doesn't operate under the principles of genjutsu. It cannot be dispelled under the same principles of genjutsu. This is mainly because the nature of how these powers operate are different, though the outcomes may be the same. Gowther's powers are more mental focused, rather than genjutsu's sensual focused aspect.

I will go into this more in-depth in my formal rebuttal.

Reading King's hand movements.

The problem with this point is twofold. First, being able to read King's hand movements don't really mean much. Unless Sasuke has intimate knowledge of what those hand movements mean, it really doesn't help him at all. For example. Sasuke can read the hand movements of sign language, but it doesn't mean he can understand what it means.

This will be expanded upon in my formal rebuttal as well.

This is by no means a comprehensive response and there are many other points that I will address in a later post. The points I already mentioned will also be expanded in my more formal post.