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#1  Edited By OhTru
@randumo24 said:
" Can anybody beat this version of the beyonder? "
No TOAA only stalemates
 
This thread is spite
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 Creator WAS absolutely terrible and I'm glad he's no longer at the vine. He often lied or distorted facts, harassed other members or just got down and dirty flinging poop when others baited him. His worst behavior was after a troll called Klandicar showed up and exposed Creator as a trolling potty mouth. Creator has since left the vine but his strange entouragé now seem to be in a weird state of mourning. I'm kinda getting worried about the user AtPhantom and the rest of those with those funny avatars
Vance has a really bad reputation and I think its deservedly so, yes Vance is an intelligent man, he can debate, he does come up with good points but way too often he gets himself stuck into some dumb flame war. 
As a confessed flamer I easily recognize another one when I see one.
 
 King, Morpheus, Nighthunter, Precise are all very calm and cool headed.....and boy have I baited and got nothing
The Best, the most calm

Hellos, AtPhantom,  Griffin2099, SunKing, Zoom, TheDarkness, Lagoonboy, Gambler rarely ever lose it but I have seen AtPhantom get baited once in a blue Moon. He's level headed and makes great points but AtPhantom does have a little bit of fanboy in him. Zooms little problem is that sometimes he develops a severe case of tunnel vision in threads involving any comic characters that can run fast. Gambler does go a little fanboy in WonderWoman threads and AtPhantom sometimes he's especially prone to lose it in any topic involving Fate or Darkseid
Other than these little quirks I would say they are very patient, make good points and  rarely ever lose it
 
I'm not going to even mention the moderate to poor debater individually, I've personally flamed enough these past months and the vine has plenty of complaints about the poor debaters like the Storm, Superman and Hulk fanatics. These fanboys are some of the most aggressive and extreme and there's no point in mentioning them further

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@Lance Uppercut

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"  Odin in the destroyer armor cold take out anyone he chooses. "

I agree, he drastically swings the battle in favor of Asgard
 

@TheJuggernautpunch

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" @OhTru: Pre-Crisis Darkseid would vaporize Odin from existence in seconds . "

Pre Crisis got owned by Firestorm, got owned by Yuga Khan, got beat around by Pre Crisis Supergirl
No doubt I might be low balling him and Kirby's original creation was powerful but he's not the top class reliable brick you Darkseid fans make him out to be
 
Odin was a very reliable brick, he doesn't just waste planets he wasted Galaxies THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF STARS, MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PLANETS blown away by his power
Odin has proven himself and fought Galaxy busters.  Odin has thousands of years combat experience, the evil force of Asgard Infinity was tearing away at the very fabric of the Universe, and if left unchecked would have ended all life and crushed the very Universe. Odin's battle with Infinity destroyed entire galaxies and countless worlds. When awoken from his trance by Thor, Odin swiftly got rid of Infinity and with one simple act was powerful enough to restore all the damage Infinity had caused across the Universe in moments.  Odin  again, rattled across the entire universe in his battle with Forsung, which blew away planets like dry sand castles, and created heat so intense entire burning stars were created in its wake, as they blew each other to the ends of the universe. Odin's fight with Surtur again more Galaxies busted and quakes that shake the entire foudations of the multiverse.  Again another epic battle, destroyed entire galaxies in his battles with Seth. 
In his Destroyer armor he is near unstoppable, the only time I've seen him beat down in his armor is when the Celestials all joined up to tag team his ass. Each Celestial as powerful as Galactus and  a guy like....Arishem... many, many times the power of Galactus. 
 
 

 
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Pre Crisis was tough but he's still outclassed.

 

@Manchine

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" Odin can almost solo this whole thing.  "

  Yeah he can
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@Neon_Nemesis said:

" Didn't Sentry also withstand Black Bolt's voice? "

He got aerosolized by it in a What-If issue but yeah many people have survived Black Bolt's voice
 
@CosmicSpiral said:

" He can't win with any of those people.  "

Thanos is dead, he might have an incredible durable body but the Titan can't match him. Thanos will drop eventually just like their last fight 

All these other players can really do is distract Odin for a second or so until he swats them away like annoying insects
He might have to splat Surfer more than once because he seems to have gotten a degree stronger and has been on steroids after Annihilation
 but even so Odin totally outclasses them, he just needs to swat him two times instead of one

He outclasses them enough to stomp Thanos and Surfer both at the same time
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@thaproblem99 said:
" Captain Marvel wins "
He might have a chance against Post Crisis Darkseid
 
but I still think Post Crisis Darkseid takes the majority of fights
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#6  Edited By OhTru

Odin is a true brick, I would rank him near top of the Skyfather table with his long lists of feats
 

@Lance Uppercut

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"  Odin in the destroyer armor cold take out anyone he chooses. "

Yeah Odin has the consistent feats to pretty much solo this fight. Pre Crisis Darkseid would make him sweat though 
 
I see Orion, Beta Ray, Thor and Big Barda almost as equals. Orion might be slightly ahead of Thor but that doesn't matter because Odin is so many levels above them all he can probably take them all out with one backhand
Give Odin the Destroyer armor and its overkill
 
the only way Asgard loses is if Bendis writes and he makes all Asgardians jobber like crazy just as they have been doing in the Siege
 
@jacobyLIVE said:

"   Omega Effect which Odin has no way of defending himself against. "

  Wow and you got the avatar to back up your kool aid drinking

The Post Crisis Omega Effect is a joke, its has been ducked, ignored, dodged, reflected, blocked you name it...its almost become a useless attack
Odin can block it on his chin without burning one single of the hairs on his beard 
 
Pre Crisis on Infinite Earths Darkseid was a different story, he was a true brick and close to a high Skyfather level but Odin has him beat on years and years of crazy high end feats
Odin can still block the Pre Crisis Infinite Earths Darkseid, he just needs to exert himself a little harder
 
Stop being a fanatic Darkseid is outclassed by a genuine brick who never experienced that Crisis Reset Button. All of Odin's feats stand because he's the same brick throughout the history of Marvel continuity.
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@-Unseen- said:
" Yea, Writers might even have him using his Superior speed and strength to win, God forbid. "

He's got some speed feats that might put him in superman's ballpark but that's it
 
Thanos can soak up hits from a Galaxy buster like Odin or Tyrant, Billy's strength is pretty pathetic compared to what Thanos has owned
 
the kid has no chance, all he can ever hope to do is buzz around him and annoy the Titan like an insect would annoy a Bull Elephant
Billy gets owned badly, accept it fanboy
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#8  Edited By OhTru

Apparently some people were claiming he takes down Odin and Thanos with a blitz

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@Omega-level Supreme said:

" That's not fair, Thor always uses a weapon. "


and Thor had the Infinity Power Gem
 

@Valkaad

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" So do you or do you not think Thanos is more powerful than Jubilee? "


Vance likes to troll sometimes
 
It would be wise not to be baited by him in future
 
If you think his behavior is consistently disruptive and is getting out of hand too much then Pm a moderator. I for one have never flagged a post or Pm'ed a modertor ovr this trivial nonsense
 
but I do know the people who flag the most and complain the most are often the people who bait like crazy
people who troll are often the same people who 'rat' or 'snitch' 
 
@Thanos1992 said:

" thanos has fought people at  his strength level hes constantly fighting and killing (hes got to have fighting skills since i doubt he uses his full strength or his energy blast for just anyone) "

It should be noted he owned Champion when he had the Infinity Power Gem
I doubt that's something Thor would have achieved when Thor has consistent problems with the likes of Hulk, Sentry and Rulk
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Wow that's some incredible art work, thanks for sharing that Rubraz. I grew up on comics in the 90s so a lot of this is before my time.  I'm always interested in the great artists and I'll keep an eye out for his books the next time I'm buying something. I never realized how much work he did and how important Marshall Rogers is to the comic universe, he really has lots of characters and stories to his name.
Sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad