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#1  Edited By Ocelot100

now exists blue hulk??)) X.x  this is stupid

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RC: And now we come to another "god issue" that sometimes angers people: Darkseid, Doomsday and Superman in Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey. Darkseid really seemed to get bludgeoned by Doomsday, like he had no chance against Doomsday. In the Doomsday: Year Oneannual, however, it seemed like Darkseid would have had somewhat of an equality with Doomsday. Was it your intention to show Doomsday as, like, orders above Darkseid inHunter/Prey?

DAN JURGENS: It’s funny, but somebody emailed me about this not too long ago.

RC: I saw that email on the Web.

DAN JURGENS: The idea that we were trying to portray is the natural immunity that Doomsday would develop toward whoever he was fighting. In such case, it becomes very hard for Darkseid to defeat him.

My answer to that question in general is that . . . you take Doomsday, you take Darkseid, you put them in a pit and have them fight it out to death. If you do that ten times, you’re looking at a five-five or six-four split.


RC: Some people got the impression from Hunter/Prey that Darkseid could never win against Doomsday.

DAN JURGENS: I think that on that one given time [in Hunter/Prey] . . . yes, but I also think that Darkseid is a smart guy. (Laughs).

RC: What if you threw Darkseid in that pit with no preparation or anything like that?

DAN JURGENS: Because of brute power and the natural immunity that Doomsday genetically develops, Doomsday has the advantage. But my theory is that the next time they fight, Darkseid knows that he’s been defeated and takes countermeasures.

RC: So, in your opinion, if Darkseid fought Doomsday without employing technology and strategy, Doomsday would win every time?

DAN JURGENS: Yes. Right.

  
 RC: All right . . . another Darkseid/Superman question: If Superman got hit with the Omega Effect like Doomsday did in Hunter/Prey, would he have survived it like Doomsday did?

DAN JURGENS: Yes. Yeah. I’ve always had the pretty profound conviction that if Superman got hit by the Omega Effect, that he would survive.

RC: Do you believe, then, that Darkseid is far less powerful than Superman-that it is Darkseid’s political machinations and his dangerous mind that makes him a threat to Superman, not his power?

DAN JURGENS: Exactly.

RC: But you did write in the preface to the Hunter/Prey trade paperback that Doomsday defeating Superman is one thing . . . but Doomsday defeating Darkseid takes Doomsday to awhole other level.

DAN JURGENS: We needed Doomsday to defeat Darkseid for people to understand that Doomsday was a multi-dimensional threat.

RC: Then was is that Doomsday defeating Apokolips took Doomsday to a whole other level?

DAN JURGENS: Well, I say it’s more like that. You know, if you go back to the Kirby Darkseid stories, Darkseid was never set up to be the all-powerful type of being. To me, Highfatherwas always set up to be the more powerful, omnipotent sort of being than was Darkseid. Darkseid had power in that he was able to control people around him. People were terrified of him.

I always say with guys like Darkseid and Lex Luthor . . . how come everybody fears these guys? They never do anythingbad. You know, you go back to the Kirby stories and everybody talked about how bad Darkseid was and see that, yeah, Apokolips was always a terrible place to live, but . . . gee, I don’t know if we ever saw him do terrible, evil, awful things on a frequent basis. And so I think Darkseid, because he wields the tremendous army and power of Apokolips . . . he is powerful, in a galactic sense.

RC: So in your opinion, in terms of sheer power, it’s clear that Superman and Doomsday are both above Darkseid?

DAN JURGENS: Right.

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#5  Edited By Ocelot100

demifiend  takes this
 

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@superdemon said:

" @Ocelot100 said:

" @superdemon said:

" @Mackeja said:

" I don't know the first thing about Tyrant, so I have no opinion in this fight, but I object to the hostility, as well as the ad hominem in this thread. Calling someone a "fanboy," is not a good argument, nor is providing the exact denotation of a word which might be better understood in context. I would like to know more about Tyrant, and about how he compares to skyfathers, but all I'm getting from this thread is an interpretive disagreement about how Thanos fits in with ABC logic. "

1. Providing the definition of a word is called proving someone wrong after they state the complete opposite. 2.  If two people have fought the same person, it's safe to compare them by those fights. Thanos has fought both Odin and Tyrant. He didn;t really even budge Odin. He made Tyrant bleed, sent him back with energy blasts and physically over powered him. "
indeed. but thanos wasnt capable of defeat neither tyrant or odin,  these two are above the mad titan.  anyway odin solos here o zeus.  "
Odin is. Tyrant is not. If Tyrant was superior he would have over powered Thanos and got his orb back. Plus, after his Tyrant fight, he took the orb to his base and upgraded himself with it. Check it out here. "
  Thanos didn't have an upper hand. I mean, were we reading the same fight?  
 
 
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  Thanos blasting Tyrant with what? Not his own power, but that of the orb, to no effect.

   
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  Tyrant making it a physical battle with Thanos, knocking the orb out of his grasp

    

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  The art makes it pretty clear here that Thanos needed the orb to do battle with Tyrant, once again using it's power instead of his own

    

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  Tyrant blasting Thanos back and off his feet

    

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  Once again, Thanos goes after Tyrant, and Tyrant blasts Thanos back, with sufficient damage as to remove clothing from Thanos. Odin didn't even do this much damage

    

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 Thanos physically assaulting Tyrant with the ORB. Tyrant then stops the assault using only one hand     
 

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  So here we have Thanos, still using the orb to physical try and hold off Tyrant!!. The power the two are putting out is damaging the landscape 

 

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      Now we get to the good part. Tyrant is still standing, while Thanos is getting to his feet.  Tyrant - you yet live. 
 

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  Tyrant - A situation I will presently correct Thanos - Given the chance, I'm sure you would

 
   So lets see. That slight powerup seemed to be pretty necessary for Thanos in that fight. The third scan really hammers that home. Especially since he was using the orb during most of the fight. 
  

  Now let's get to that whopper of a last scan. Thanos clearly stated that given the chance, had the battle gone on, Tyrant had the capability to put him down. Plain as day, straight from the horses mouth. You can debate about the power of the orb all you'd like, but he obviously needed it. The scans made that crystal clear. He couldn't do it under his own power, so he needed the orb to amp him. Which is fine, really. But when you say Tyrant got handled, it's pretty obvious that that's not the case. I didn't see Tyrant ready to run off once Thanos had let up. Did you?

   

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#8  Edited By Ocelot100

didnt spectre transforms this guy in a mouse 
 

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#9  Edited By Ocelot100

stop doing this

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#10  Edited By Ocelot100

who is yamamoto? O.o