@ancient_0f_days: Why do you get so offended?...you yourself are using (or at least trying to use) foul language. People get so put off on these things so easily.
@xspectregreyx: Here we go...this is what I mean by people "godding" up Bats. It's so silly. I know Bane was more then a brute. The point is is if Bats was really a part of superhuman league dealing with superhuman conflicts he'd be the first to die. Doesn't matter if he has a "plan." And Joker proved that. Joker never has a plan and he's bested Bats in stories such as the Dark Knight Returns. But either way there is absolutely nothing you can say to convince me other wise. Your opinion is mute to me.