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1.) Batman

2.) Woner Woman (how did that happen lol!!!)

3.)The Flash

4.) Batman and Robin

5.)Green Lantern/Swamp Thing(couldnt decide)

Cool looks like I won one of the game codes! Cant say Im not slightly disappointed I didnt win the Frank Quitely art though :( Hes one of my favorites. Oh well still grateful I won something!

@pikahyper: The problem with the Vertigo characters over at Vertigo was that they simply werent really selling all that well. I know it always comes back down to money, but like I said DC is a business and its a fact of life. No matter how beloved or popular a book may be to a small group of fans, if the publishers are losing money making it then it will be canceled. No company in the world is altruistic enough to keep around something that is losing money for the small group of fans that enjoy it. So think of it this way. Either the characters from Vertigo would forever hang around in limbo since their books werent making any money, or they could be brought over to DC proper and still have a chance at appearing.

Youre whole thing about looking at sales statewide makes no sense whatsoever. Would you want DC to continue losing money on a book just so people in California would be happy? A business cant focus on the smaller picture. Even if people in California enjoy a book that wont raise sales. So maybe DC starts only shipping to States where it is popular? Well that makes even less sense since the book still costs the same amount of money to produce, meaning they lose even more sales and more money because they're limiting the audience they're selling to.

It seems like alot of people just cant understand the business of it all. DC isnt being greedy, they are simply cutting losses and trying to make money. If they WERE greedy we would be seeing regular books being priced at 3.99(marvel).

@pikahyper: I understand that youre a fan of Milestone, and I respect that you want to see more of the characters but it simply made more sense for the Vertigo to fuse with DcU because of its overall larger fanbase. But just because Milestone didnt merge in Flashpoint doesnt mean we wont see more Milestone characters. As you said here a few Milestone characters had already made their way into the DCU before Flashpoint, meaning that they were part of the old DcU before it merged. This means that we may still see them at some point. However its silly not to equate sales with popularity. That is exactly what sales are, a way to measure how popular a book is. If a book is popular it will get sales. If it doesnt sell well then it isnt popular. The comic book business is exactly that, a BUSINESS. If a book isnt selling well that means its not popular, therefore it gets canceled.

@pikahyper: Im almost positive that all the cancellations were for sales reasons. I looked it up, and it was on a steady decline from issue one with issue 5 only selling 13,000 copies. What memorable characters come from milestone. Ive been a fan for years now and the only one Ive ever even heard of was Static, and I had no idea Xombi was milestone either. Vertigo simply had more interesting, popular characters which is why it makes sense that DC would integrate them into the DcU.

@pikahyper: Im not sure exactly who the girl is. It may be the Vertigo version of Zatanna, or maybe Xanadu. But really Milestone would not have been a good choice to merge. Really the only noteworthy character to come from Milestone is Static. And look at the "popularity" of the characters you mentioned. Both Xombi and Static Shock were canceled. Vertigo was the much better choice

@pikahyper: OBVIOUSLY DC knows that Animal Man was in the DC proper. So was Swamp thing and Constantine like you mentioned earlier. But when the Universes merged they regained elements from their Vertigo counterparts. Other characters like Shade came over from Vertigo.

@pikahyper: There was also Shade the Changing man off the top of my head. But the point is that the universes merged. That is canon. Vertigo characters may not have been as visible as Wildstorm ones since many of them were from the DCU in the first place but that is what happened. And here is proof

Bottom is obviously old DcU Top left is VERTIGO, and top left Wildstorm. 3 universes come together and the DCnU is born.

@pikahyper: What I mean is the Vertigo Universe was merged. That being the characters and stories that shared the same fictional universe. Such as Swamp Thing, Constantine, and more that we will probably see later such as The Endless from Sandman. The Vertigo imprint on the other hand is still alive and well. and kept the books that were self contained to their own universes such as American Vampire and Fables. You are right in a sense though since the Vertigo universe originally stemmed from the DC Universe, though there are character unique to Vertigo that we will likely be seeing now that it has become reintegrated into the proper DCU.

What do you consider older exactly? Im 20 and I read prefer DC to Marvel.