Why isn't the Fantastic Four more popular?

Why isn't the Fantastic Four more popular? Out of all the comics in the industry it seems that Fantastic Four should be among the most popular. It has several things going for it that only a handful of franchises can match. If you analyze it in depth Fantastic Four has the tools to rival even Batman in popularity.

1. Rich Tradition: The fantastic four series has been written by the best of the best and has memorable runs that should be included amongst the very best in the history of the industry. The initial run by Lee/Kirby started off the series with a bang that is considered by many to be the best in history. Introducing Marvel mainstays such as Dr. Doom, Galactus, Silver Surfer, Skrulls, Red Ghost, Molecule Man, Mole Man, etc...Following Lee we have had runs by Roy Thomas, Marv Wolfman, John Byrne, Walter Simonson, Steve Englehart, Mark Waid, and Carlos Pacheco with recent acclaimed runs by Jonathan Hickman and Matt Fraction.

2. Rogues Gallery: The rogue's gallery of the FF is easily top 5 in all of comics. Not only do you have the most awesome villain ever created; Doctor Doom but you also have a bevy of supernatural villains (Diablo, Mephisto, etc) cosmic foes (Skrulls, Kree, Negative Zone, microverse, etc), seemingly omnipotent beings (Galactus, Abraxas, Celestials, Molecule Man, etc) and mad scientists (Red Ghost, Mad Thinker, etc). In fact; if you simply name your top 10 villains in the Marvel Universe then it's a safe bet that at least one started as a Fantastic Four villain and I'm probably underselling it vastly.

3. Advancement in Comic Science: Between Reed Richards and Doctor Doom the series has advanced the science of comics more than any other book ever. We've had "unstable molecules", microverses, multiverses, omniverses, etc... The "comic science" of the book is extraordinary. The book is most fun when it suspends our disbelief and we wonder what's possible and what's not in comics. The Lee/Kirby run was at the time rivaled only by Challengers of the Unknown in terms of science fiction. Early on the only other place to get these kinds of stories was some of the Sci-Fi serials being published.

4. Family: Fantastic Four is in itself a book full of supporting characters. The book is about a family in which each character can be considered the lead character of the book. We have two characters with the two most popular catchphrases in comics and have each supported their own ongoing series for different time periods. We have the smartest man in comics who could possibly support his own ongoing series if afforded one. There's also the matriarch of the family who is the most powerful member physically of the group. Of the group, Sue Richards is probably least likely to be afforded her own ongoing series, but that doesn't mean she couldn't support several limited series or shouldn't be considered for one. All that and we haven't even mentioned Franklin and Valeria who are the Bart and Lisa of the Marvel Universe and have over the years been fleshed out remarkably into powerful characters on their own and were the pillars of the FF book for a while.

Conclusion: Of every book on the market; the Fantastic Four is perhaps the most underrated franchise in comics. The history and possibilities of the book are so deep and rich that it should be rivaling Batman and X-Men in terms of sales and popularity however for some reason it's relegated to the second tier of the Marvel Universe.

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Posted by kilomac29

I feel like you probably have a point here. I think Fantastic Four could be a book I would really enjoy. Unfortunately, at least for me, every time I consider picking up an issue all that comes to mind is that terrible, terrible, movie. Its a roadblock I've yet to overcome with this franchise, but will probably be that much better for it once I finally do.

Posted by Strider92

The only exposure to the FF i've had has been via the movie (urg), some guest stars in Spider-man and a few other cross-overs. I actually like the Human-Torch a lot! Probably cuz of the whole bromance he and Pete have going on but some of the stuff i've seen from the others hasn't interested me as much. Civil War for example changed my view of Reed.

Posted by Night Thrasher

@strider92: @kilomac29: I've only recently got into the FF (Millar's run). Since then I've been reading and digging into the back issues. The depth of the catalog is amazing! The first 50 issues contains what would be drawn out over about five or six years in today's comics!

Posted by Tacos_Kickass

In theory Ive always kinda liked the Fantastic Four but in reality they just seem boring to me and I have no idea why. It might have something to do with me not really liking stretchy dudes, Ive never liked those types of powers, although I'm sure the ladies wouldn't mind him.

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Fantastic Four suffers a lot from competition, and really this is something that a lot of various historic comic book teams and characters have had to deal with, but a lot of Marvel and DC characters succeed and sell by either being relatable to fans (as opposed to being realistic) or by tapping into certain wish fulfillment fantasies and power trips for fans. Earlier on this was okay as Fantastic Four offered things other books couldn't touch, many things you mention in your blog (which was superbly written by the way) but now days those things aren't exclusive to Fantastic Four anymore. Many modern indy comic books have better hard science and better fantasy science than Fantastic Four. Planetary I found did Fantastic Four better than modern day Fantastic Four. Hickman did pretty good, especially in comparison to other modern writers but even his stories I found disappointing. Fans basically have alternatives as far as comic science. I similar problem exists with characters like Superman who use to do better comic sales wise when he was the only flying powerhouse character with his name on a cover.

Oh and the villain point is a great one, except not only do so many other comic series in Marvel get to use the villains who appeared in Fantastic Four first, but arguably some comic book series utilize such villains even better than Fantastic Four do. I tend to enjoy the Celestials in Thor more (and to be fair they appeared there before FF) but even Galactus I tend to prefer in mini series or series with Surfer as main star or Thor again, or Avengers. Anyway just that they appear so many places dilutes their draw as far as FF.

I basically think there are a lot of ways to make Fantastic Four successful, but get the combination wrong and the book will suffer and that balance is a lot trickier to get right than say Justice League, X-Men or Hulk. I think Fantastic Four basically does best when its a team of explorers who happen to be family exploring the nooks, crannies, corners of the Marvel Universe - introducing us to cool and strange concepts, realities, characters. Except whoever is the writer needs to do that better than any other book out there does. Basically I think this book needs Grant Morrison heh heh.

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Posted by Night Thrasher

@sc said:

Basically I think this book needs Grant Morrison heh heh.

Honestly I was going to make this a series of blogs and my next two were going to be "Why Grant Morrison should write Fantastic Four" and "Why Warren Ellis should write Fantastic Four". Dude you mindraped me!

Posted by Owie

I've read the FF every now and then and have collected a decent amount of runs of it over the years. I think the thing is that they're considered to be a bit wishy-washy in terms of character. The whole "we're a good family that gets along" idea so solidly incarnated in the book that they don't seem like they're for real. I know from reading myself that they do have their squabbles and personal crises, but that's not as clear to non-readers.

Plus, they're do-gooders. They don't have the rebel, underground edge of the X-Men, and they don't have the aggressiveness and bravado of the Avengers. A lot of times they're also not connected into big Marvel events as much as the other teams, which makes them feel less essential. Plus, there's all these kids hanging around, which can make them feel tied down and parent-y, and people generally read comics for escapism. Parenting is the opposite of escapism! Even in terms of pure sex appeal, it's hard for them to position Sue Storm as source of attraction without it seeming too unethical/creepy because of her "good wife and mother" role.

It would also help if more of their villains had a personal beef with the team, instead of being random cosmic foes that need to be taken care of for the good of humanity. Doom, of course, has a very personal beef, but not many others. Speaking of big events, how is it that the FF wasn't involved in Annihilation, for instance, when Annihilus is one of their main foes? Of course it was an off-Earth storyline, but they could have been tied in.

Plus, and I know this may seem picky, they have the whole thing where everyone wears the same uniform, and those uniforms are kind of generic. This takes away from the characters' uniqueness.

Overall, I like the FF, but they don't write (or draw) themselves. They tend to only work when they have a really good writer and/or artist.

Posted by Reignmaker

@night_thrasher:

Family doesn't sell. Sex, emo, angst, etc. - these things sell.

I love the Fantastic Four for the reasons you've listed. I also feel that their current two books bring something new and fresh to my pull list every month. But most people would rather pick up an extra book about mutants.

Posted by Reignmaker

One more thing I'll say, I think a lot of people have a hard time relating to Reed. He comes off as this super-smart douche sometimes. While there's clearly other smart characters in comics that we're ok with, for whatever reason it's tough to care where Reed is coming from sometimes.

Posted by AllStarSuperman

there lame

Posted by Warpimp

In my opinion, the the Four always seemed, well...mediocre. Even in awesome books like Marvels and Earth X when it comes to the Fantastic Four parts I tend to start skimming.

And then there is Reed. He is just insufferable, which would be fine if everyone he interacts with realized it too. Instead, it seems like everyone not named Doom agrees on what a great guy he is.

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Because Marvel has allowed too many other characters to outshine them over the years.

Posted by SC

@night_thrasher: Oops heh heh - looking forward to your next blogs if they are as good as this one. Thanks for shining a light on Marvels First Family.

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Posted by thespideyguy

Bad movies.

Posted by PhoenixoftheTides

@strider92: @kilomac29: I've only recently got into the FF (Millar's run). Since then I've been reading and digging into the back issues. The depth of the catalog is amazing! The first 50 issues contains what would be drawn out over about five or six years in today's comics!

Yep. I started to take a closer look and found that their adventures were really amazing compared to the other Marvel properties. I think it has to do with the fact that they are obviously adults for the most part, and the readership is generally skewed towards younger boys who aren't interested in reading a story about a pregnant superheroine, a story where a scientist is the hero using his intelligence and not claws and etc.

Posted by knighthood

@night_thrasher: I like 'em. In fact I prefer them over the Avengers, but their current book is horrid. I'm not sure who to blame, Fraction or Bagley. I read other Fraction books and enjoy them immensely. I've never been a fan of Bagley.

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@sc said:

@night_thrasher: Oops heh heh - looking forward to your next blogs if they are as good as this one. Thanks for shining a light on Marvels First Family.

It's all good. I think I'm going to do something else with my next blog but I think it's self explanatory why Morrison should write Fantastic Four. It's like a match made in heaven! Ellis is the only other writer I can think of that hasn't already written 616 FF that even comes close.

Posted by Night Thrasher

@knighthood: Bagley! I loved him on Amazing and Thunderbolts...but his Fantastic Four just seems off. And Fraction's story is a solid one, but in comparison to what immediately preceded it, it does seem like a bit of a let down.

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The majority of modern comic fans don't seem to seek what the FF are providing.

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Because they're family friendly and that's not edgy enough.

Posted by Nightwing4

Marvel is missing out on not putting out a FF version of DC's "Tiny Titans." geared toward children. The book feels too isolated from the rest of marvel. Marvel's first family should be at the center of attention IMO. Also the characters aren't too relatable. Particularly Reed.

Posted by Jorgevy

because they're a family.

that can sell to families in comedy shows but it wont sell to the comics demographic. atleast IMO

even if the mom is super hot, the uncle super awesome, the other "uncle" super awesome too, and if the kids have crazy abilties

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@nightwing4: I disagree. I think the "tiny titans" idea could have legs. But, I do think the isolation of the book from the rest of the Marvel Universe is more of an advantage than a disadvantage. Events sell!...that's the mantra of the BIG TWO for the past decade! The Fantastic Four is a book custom made to have events every month! Read the Lee/Kirby run, it was basically event after event. The Inhuman Saga led directly into the Galactus Trilogy. This should and has been previously been a book of events!

Posted by Night Thrasher

@reignmaker: @fodigg: @jorgevy: Exactly!....Which was the exact reason why The Incredibles was a huge flop! And no adult will ever watch it!

Posted by Jorgevy

@reignmaker: @fodigg: @jorgevy: Exactly!....Which was the exact reason why The Incredibles was a huge flop! And no adult will ever watch it!

they flopped??? i never knew.... I loved that movie

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@night_thrasher said:

@reignmaker: @fodigg: @jorgevy: Exactly!....Which was the exact reason why The Incredibles was a huge flop! And no adult will ever watch it!

It got a good deal of critical acclaim according to these sources. And I loved that film.

The film received high critical acclaim from critics, receiving a 97% approval rating at Rotten Tomatoes[27] which made the movie the fifteenth most highly rated animated film of all time.[28]Metacritic indicates the film "universal acclaim" with a 90 out of 100 rating.[29] Critic Roger Ebertawarded the film 3½ stars out of 4, writing that the film "alternates breakneck action with satire of suburban sitcom life" and is "another example of Pixar's mastery of popular animation."[30]Rolling Stonegave the film 3½ stars and called the film "one of the year's best" and said that it "doesn't ring cartoonish, it rings true."[31] Also giving the film 3½ stars, People magazine found that The Incredibles"boasts a strong, entertaining story and a truckload of savvy comic touches."[32]

Eleanor Ringel Gillespie of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution was bored by the film's recurring pastiches of earlier action films, concluding, "the Pixar whizzes do what they do excellently; you just wish they were doing something else."[33] Similarly, Jessica Winter of The Village Voice criticized the film for playing as a standard summer action film, despite being released in early November. Her review, titled as "Full Metal Racket," noted that "The Incredibles announces the studio's arrival in the vast yet overcrowded Hollywood lot of eardrum-bashing, metal-crunching action sludge."

Peter Travers of Rolling Stone named The Incredibles No. 6 on his list of the decade's best films, writing "Of all the Pixar miracles studded through the decade, The Incredibles still delights me the most. It's not every toon that deals with midlife crisis, marital dysfunction, child neglect, impotence fears, fashion faux pas and existential angst."[34]

The National Review Online named The Incredibles No. 2 on its list of the 25 best conservative movies of the last 25 years saying that it "celebrates marriage, courage, responsibility, and high achievement.

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Posted by Lvenger
Edited by Chronus

Most story arcs involving the Fantastic Four are boring and all members of the group except for Reed Richards are just as boring.

Edited by The Stegman

To me, the Fantastic Four are among the most boring comic characters ever created. And their pseudo-scientific jargon get's real old, real fast.

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@night_thrasher said:

@reignmaker: @fodigg: @jorgevy: Exactly!....Which was the exact reason why The Incredibles was a huge flop! And no adult will ever watch it!

god, that was such a great movie.

Edit: and I get your point but I think that's the exception more than the rule, at least in comics. I'd love for it to be done better, but it hasn't been.

Posted by Reignmaker

@reignmaker: @fodigg: @jorgevy: Exactly!....Which was the exact reason why The Incredibles was a huge flop! And no adult will ever watch it!

Well, now you're talking about something that was marketed for a different audience. How well do you think "Incredibles: the comic book!" would do in today's market?

Posted by Night Thrasher

@reignmaker: The point was that family oriented does not automatically limit sells. The Incredibles was an awesome movie that kids enjoyed as well as adults. The fact is that the movie has incredible crossover with the comics demographic. The same people who would call Fantastic Four boring would watch The Incredibles at about a 80% ratio. The fact that The Incredibles was based on The Fantastic Four model makes it even more ironic.

Posted by tupiaz

The turn off point is that it is a family and nothing much seems to have happen (I have only read some Stan Lee and Byrne stories). However it is about time that Franklin becomes a teenager (or how old did he become when his age was altered?). Maybe have some family problems about this. The family picture and status should have change by now. You should also let Johnny Storm grove up and start his own family (as far as I know it has been tried but never fully done).

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@night_thrasher said:

@reignmaker: The point was that family oriented does not automatically limit sells. The Incredibles was an awesome movie that kids enjoyed as well as adults. The fact is that the movie has incredible crossover with the comics demographic. The same people who would call Fantastic Four boring would watch The Incredibles at about a 80% ratio. The fact that The Incredibles was based on The Fantastic Four model makes it even more ironic.

Yes, I agree with you that many comic fans liked The Incredibles (even though I recognize your ratio is a guesstimate). But I still think you're comparing apples to oranges. We're talking about why the Fantastic Four comic book isn't as popular as other hero books. Show me a family friendly comic book that's a bestseller, and your argument will be stronger. People don't want to read an Incredibles comic book in their spare time. It would do just as bad as FF, if not worse.

We're not just talking about right now either, since the '80s readers have been purchasing darker comics with more edgy themes. These books make up most of the current market. I don't agree with the majority's taste, but that's the reality. Family friendly, bubble-filled adventures don't sell as well the current comic book market. And the numbers have backed that up. If family books did do well, DC and Marvel would be pumping out more. They're not. They're making more mutant and batman comics.

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@tupiaz: It seems to me that you going more on speculation than actually opinion. The Lee/Kirby run had very few "character building" issues and were mostly action driven. The latest Hickman run was a continuation of the original Lee/Kirby run with action on a grand scope. The family aspect of the book is a big part but that doesn't mean they sit around eating waffles all day instead of doing things. If Bruce Wayne is still younger than 50 after about 75 years of publication then Franklin doesn't have to be a teenager or Johnny Storm doesn't have to start a family. Besides any publication were This happens shouldn't ever be considered boring

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@night_thrasher said:

@tupiaz: It seems to me that you going more on speculation than actually opinion. The Lee/Kirby run had very few "character building" issues and were mostly action driven. The latest Hickman run was a continuation of the original Lee/Kirby run with action on a grand scope. The family aspect of the book is a big part but that doesn't mean they sit around eating waffles all day instead of doing things. If Bruce Wayne is still younger than 50 after about 75 years of publication then Franklin doesn't have to be a teenager or Johnny Storm doesn't have to start a family. Besides any publication were This happens shouldn't ever be considered boring

No it is my opinion however since I haven't read that much FF since John Byrne run I'm not sure the series status is still the same. However keeping the status quo in the family (that mean with supporting characters) that isn¨t happening anything new. Most other series have some change in their relationship. And yeah the thing has been out and Johnny Storm has been dead. However it seems like the series haven't updated much.

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@tupiaz: No, it's actually speculation. Your opinion is actually you speculating. By saying "since I haven't read that much FF since John Byrne run I'm not sure the series status is still the same", you were actually stating that you are speculating. I would say that if you read some more recent stuff and still felt that way then it would be something else entirely.

I think that the book has changed significantly since the Byrne run and the Byrne run in itself was a run of significant changes. Which is to say that if the book changed completely from the Byrne run to the original status quo, then it has changed significantly.

Posted by tupiaz

@tupiaz: No, it's actually speculation. Your opinion is actually you speculating. By saying "since I haven't read that much FF since John Byrne run I'm not sure the series status is still the same", you were actually stating that you are speculating. I would say that if you read some more recent stuff and still felt that way then it would be something else entirely.

I think that the book has changed significantly since the Byrne run and the Byrne run in itself was a run of significant changes. Which is to say that if the book changed completely from the Byrne run to the original status quo, then it has changed significantly.

But it is stil an opinion. If it is based on speculation (i would rather say limited knowledge). That my opinion is based on speculation or limited knowledge dosen't make my opinion less of an opinion. You can claim that it is less valid but that is an another question. But it is still these subjects that keeps me from the book. It still seems like the same family structure that it was 30 years ago.

Posted by Night Thrasher

@tupiaz: The family structure is not what it was 30 years ago. To start with is the addition of Valeria. Franklin has been aged, deaged nonexistent, nonpowered, overpowered, omnipotent, etc since. Alicia Masters used to be a huge part of the book which she isn't any more. We've added several new characters from different corners of the Marvel universe including Dragon Man and Moloids to the supporting cast. And we've moved from the Baxter Building, to Four Freedoms Plaza, to a warehouse on the harbor and back to the Baxter Building. I would say there have been more changes in Fantastic Four during the past 30 years then there have been in Batman, Wolverine, Superman or Justice League.

Posted by RustyRoy

Their biggest problem is that they're villains are far more awesome than them.

Posted by knighthood

Boring?!? I can't believe so many people are hating on the 4.

Posted by tupiaz

@tupiaz: The family structure is not what it was 30 years ago. To start with is the addition of Valeria. Franklin has been aged, deaged nonexistent, nonpowered, overpowered, omnipotent, etc since. Alicia Masters used to be a huge part of the book which she isn't any more. We've added several new characters from different corners of the Marvel universe including Dragon Man and Moloids to the supporting cast. And we've moved from the Baxter Building, to Four Freedoms Plaza, to a warehouse on the harbor and back to the Baxter Building. I would say there have been more changes in Fantastic Four during the past 30 years then there have been in Batman, Wolverine, Superman or Justice League.

Franklin is still a kid he is what 10-12 years old? He hasn't made it into adulthood. Batman has by the way changed much since the 80's before Miller took over. The whole reboot changed him to a much darker character. Also wolverine is perhaps one of the characters that changed very little even though he got his adamantium skeleton removed got wild got it back. His back story both how he got his adamantium skeleton and how he was raisedHow old he was ect. The family structure is still the same whatever they live in a warehouse or in the Baxter building. The Thing and Human Touch is still the wild once and Susan and Richards are the parents for the whole family. Let Franklin become teenager and let that change things. Let The Thing and Johnny settle down a little. Let them some how change age instead of being the same since they got release let there be some character evolution.

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I personaly am not a fan of fantastic 4, they don't have the spark that Avengers have.

Posted by Jorgevy

@jorgevy: @lvenger: Sarcasm folks

hahaha awesome gif, loved that movie and that actress

o another note, night trasher, if that was sarcasm you utterly failed. first, its hard to translate well into the internet. second, it made no sense. that's why I even assumed you were being serious

the only reason adults watched and it was a sucess was because it's a movie. okay, there were other reasons but mainly because it was a movie. an animated movie, which adults already recognize as art and great flicks to watch in family and even by yourself and which have adult humor and themes present even if their aimed at kids

so that's EXTREMELLY different from a comic book

just like

@night_thrasher said:

@reignmaker: @fodigg: @jorgevy: Exactly!....Which was the exact reason why The Incredibles was a huge flop! And no adult will ever watch it!

Well, now you're talking about something that was marketed for a different audience. How well do you think "Incredibles: the comic book!" would do in today's market?

yah, I wonder how good Incredible the comic book would sell if there was no movie.

familly only sells

AND I ALREADY SAID IT, in the screens. because people can actually see and feel the empathy and it's the most desirable form of media for an actual family. they can sit in the couch and watch it on tv or on the blu ray or whatever, or they can go all on a sunday morning to the cinema and watch the movie all together.

so yeah family sells, ON THE SCREEN.

it certainly doesnt sell in a media that is not only very demographic specific, but also extremlly prejudiced by adults in general

Posted by mrdecepticonleader

Mephisto isn't really a Fantastic Four villain.He first appeared as a foe to Silver Surfer,then later Thor and he has really become a major foe of Ghost Rider.I really wouldn't consider him a major FF 4 villain.

Also I think Dr Doom works better as a foe to other characters as well.I think he has outgrown the Fantastic Four,certainly in terms of popularity.

@sc said:

Fantastic Four suffers a lot from competition, and really this is something that a lot of various historic comic book teams and characters have had to deal with, but a lot of Marvel and DC characters succeed and sell by either being relatable to fans (as opposed to being realistic) or by tapping into certain wish fulfillment fantasies and power trips for fans. Earlier on this was okay as Fantastic Four offered things other books couldn't touch, many things you mention in your blog (which was superbly written by the way) but now days those things aren't exclusive to Fantastic Four anymore. Many modern indy comic books have better hard science and better fantasy science than Fantastic Four. Planetary I found did Fantastic Four better than modern day Fantastic Four. Hickman did pretty good, especially in comparison to other modern writers but even his stories I found disappointing. Fans basically have alternatives as far as comic science. I similar problem exists with characters like Superman who use to do better comic sales wise when he was the only flying powerhouse character with his name on a cover.

Oh and the villain point is a great one, except not only do so many other comic series in Marvel get to use the villains who appeared in Fantastic Four first, but arguably some comic book series utilize such villains even better than Fantastic Four do. I tend to enjoy the Celestials in Thor more (and to be fair they appeared there before FF) but even Galactus I tend to prefer in mini series or series with Surfer as main star or Thor again, or Avengers. Anyway just that they appear so many places dilutes their draw as far as FF.

I basically think there are a lot of ways to make Fantastic Four successful, but get the combination wrong and the book will suffer and that balance is a lot trickier to get right than say Justice League, X-Men or Hulk. I think Fantastic Four basically does best when its a team of explorers who happen to be family exploring the nooks, crannies, corners of the Marvel Universe - introducing us to cool and strange concepts, realities, characters. Except whoever is the writer needs to do that better than any other book out there does. Basically I think this book needs Grant Morrison heh heh.

Now that is a good idea.

Posted by Hazlenaut

A good intro one is needed. The 2000 version underwhelms me compared to the two intros from the 90s. I like them peppy which right now Marvel isn't at the time. Are they out overly dark drama yet? I liked the moment when Thing went to France during the Civil War as he was fun.

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@sc said:

Basically I think this book needs Grant Morrison heh heh.

Honestly I was going to make this a series of blogs and my next two were going to be "Why Grant Morrison should write Fantastic Four" and "Why Warren Ellis should write Fantastic Four". Dude you mindraped me!

Well both of them already wrote the Fantastic Four. Not for very long, though.

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@night_thrasher said:

@sc said:

Basically I think this book needs Grant Morrison heh heh.

Honestly I was going to make this a series of blogs and my next two were going to be "Why Grant Morrison should write Fantastic Four" and "Why Warren Ellis should write Fantastic Four". Dude you mindraped me!

Well both of them already wrote the Fantastic Four. Not for very long, though.

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I respect that avatar.

Posted by Night Thrasher

@night_thrasher said:

@sc said:

Basically I think this book needs Grant Morrison heh heh.

Honestly I was going to make this a series of blogs and my next two were going to be "Why Grant Morrison should write Fantastic Four" and "Why Warren Ellis should write Fantastic Four". Dude you mindraped me!

Well both of them already wrote the Fantastic Four. Not for very long, though.

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Neither really counts because Morrison did a mini-series and Ellis did 1610 FF. Neither have done 616 FF yet to my knowledge

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