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I feel sorry for Chris Brown.

Dude hit a woman 3 years ago! He's being prosecuted to this day for a mistake that he seemingly hasn't repeated and had no prior history of. Every couple of months or so, it seems as if another random woman (for the most part Caucasian) wants to remind us that Chris Brown is a horrible person. If Chris is at the Grammy's and does a performance, some random woman tweets how horrible he is and doesn't deserve to be at the Grammy's. If he's in a picture with a fan and is smiling, some random woman decides that he should never smile again because he is a terrible person. How long is Chris Brown going to be the new Ike Turner? How many people have to jump on his back before he breaks?

In the latest turn of events, a random nobody tweets about Chris and then a producer for a popular TV show responds. This apparently gets Mr. Brown's attention and he responds accordingly. Now I know about 70% of those reading are probably automatically on the side of "random girl" and "producer guy", but in all honesty isn't Chris allowed to live a life? If someone wants to use his name as a punchline for a joke isn't he allowed a retort? It seems to me as if a young black male is allowed one strike in today's society before he is deemed an outcast! What exactly in the past three years has Chris actually done to warrant such ill-regard amongst his peers? I know there was that thing on the "Today" show, but is that honestly that big of a deal?

Now, before everybody decides that I'm anti-feminist or a woman basher, I will say this: Men should not hit women! It's not cool, it's not macho or in anyway a gentleman should project himself. But, women should also play a part in the equation. To provoke someone with a temperament towards a volatile disposition is like playing Russian roulette. I've seen women press a situation towards violence. I've actually seen one of my friend's in an argument with his girlfriend try to diffuse the situation and walk away. His girlfriend punched him in the back of the head and then pulled a knife on him and tried to stab him. He punched the s#!t out of her, she fell and the knife flew out of her hand. I pulled him away and threw him to the ground and told her to go somewhere. She went and called the cops. When they arrived I gave my statement and told them exactly what happened. Long story short; they both spent the night in jail, and to be honest, I didn't feel sorry for either of them. The point is; just because someone hit a woman doesn't automatically make them the bad guy in a situation. It means they made a poor decision, but the circumstances don't always exonerate the woman. I like to let the facts dictate my level of contempt for a person and not the situation.

Also, if Rhianna has forgiven him, isn't time that every other woman in the world give him a chance as well? The more America harps on this kid the more it seems as if it's a racial thing.

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I have enough sense NOT to hit someone who is stronger and bigger then me. If this was two dudes everyone would say "the little guy was stupid for hitting the big dude". He tried to make her leave. He gave her a way out. She wanted to continue arguing and fighting. Keep your hands to yourself and stay out my personal belongings

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I'm with pooty

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@lykopis said:

No -- don't feel sorry for him.

No -- Rihanna is in no way responsible (partly or otherwise) for the beating Chris Brown gave her.

No -- it is not playing Russian roulette when you confront someone who is known for physical violence. Words are words, fists are fists. They are NOT the same. The consequences are on the person who chooses which to respond with.

No -- if I slap someone (and since there is a lot of speculation on here already, I will argue Rihanna didn't slap him as she later claimed she did) and the person I slapped returned the slap with an all-out beating, it is not the same. Especially if the person is larger and stronger than myself. And not because one act is more physically damaging than the other but because responding to violence with violence is wrong. If Chris Brown's life was in danger because Rihanna is capable of the Slap of Doom, then by all means --- use whatever is at your disposal to survive. But I think its a safe bet to say it wouldn't have taken multiple blows to take Rihanna down. Yet that's what she got at the hands of Chris Brown.

No -- he is in the public eye. He banked on his upbringing while climbing the charts, talked about his single mother working hard to provide for him -- talked about being exposed to an abusive father (who was also an abusive husband). This was BEFORE the the incident. So again -- no -- he deserves the public's derision just as much as he deserved it's accolades when he was the golden boy of R&B. That's celebrity for you.

No -- this isn't a white/black thing. Stating that white woman are the ones who constantly bring up what he did is as ridiculous and me saying only black women were twittering they would love to get beat down by Chris Brown a few months back.

No -- beating up someone weaker than you is contemptible and not some small, unfortunate mistake. Its a crime for a reason. Chris Brown had a perfect opportunity to make amends and be an adult. He chose not to. He clearly ignores people who tell him otherwise and he clearly surrounds himself with people who don't have his best interests at heart. He's not a demon -- he's not evil. But he is very, very stupid.

Huh. Interesting. I change my mind now.

I do feel sorry for him. He didn't learn from his mistake,he continuing to make more and therefore, he's more likely to repeat them. What a waste of an otherwise very talented individual.

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@lykopis said:

No -- don't feel sorry for him.

No -- Rihanna is in no way responsible (partly or otherwise) for the beating Chris Brown gave her.

No -- it is not playing Russian roulette when you confront someone who is known for physical violence. Words are words, fists are fists. They are NOT the same. The consequences are on the person who chooses which to respond with.

No -- if I slap someone (and since there is a lot of speculation on here already, I will argue Rihanna didn't slap him as she later claimed she did) and the person I slapped returned the slap with an all-out beating, it is not the same. Especially if the person is larger and stronger than myself. And not because one act is more physically damaging than the other but because responding to violence with violence is wrong. If Chris Brown's life was in danger because Rihanna is capable of the Slap of Doom, then by all means --- use whatever is at your disposal to survive. But I think its a safe bet to say it wouldn't have taken multiple blows to take Rihanna down. Yet that's what she got at the hands of Chris Brown.

No -- he is in the public eye. He banked on his upbringing while climbing the charts, talked about his single mother working hard to provide for him -- talked about being exposed to an abusive father (who was also an abusive husband). This was BEFORE the the incident. So again -- no -- he deserves the public's derision just as much as he deserved it's accolades when he was the golden boy of R&B. That's celebrity for you.

No -- this isn't a white/black thing. Stating that white woman are the ones who constantly bring up what he did is as ridiculous and me saying only black women were twittering they would love to get beat down by Chris Brown a few months back.

No -- beating up someone weaker than you is contemptible and not some small, unfortunate mistake. Its a crime for a reason. Chris Brown had a perfect opportunity to make amends and be an adult. He chose not to. He clearly ignores people who tell him otherwise and he clearly surrounds himself with people who don't have his best interests at heart. He's not a demon -- he's not evil. But he is very, very stupid.

Huh. Interesting. I change my mind now.

I do feel sorry for him. He didn't learn from his mistake,he continuing to make more and therefore, he's more likely to repeat them. What a waste of an otherwise very talented individual.

This. So very much.

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I don't feel sorry for him at all. Not one ounce of sympathy for this "man".He brought all of this on himself and now he must pay the price. Karma has a way of getting even and this is what it has come down to. In society, we always remember the worst of people and we constantly bring up their wrongdoings. I have no respect and no apathy for people like this man.He deserves everything he is getting and a lot more is coming his way.

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For the record, I thought Chris Brown was a horrible person before he wrecked Rihanna's face. Try and sell me gum with a dance routine, Man go to hell. 

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@Mercy_ said:

I'd have a lot more sympathy (nevermind, not sympathy...understanding) for him if he weren't such a contentious prick on multiple occasions. If he owned up to what he did (aside from court mandated community service and other conditions), I'd be a lot more likely to say 'yeah, this dude did something pretty terrible, but he's making amends for it'. That's not the case at all. Contrarily, he seems to enjoy flaunting the fact that he did this and continuing on with an aggressive, confrontational attitude. The Twitter incident with Jenny Johnson is a clear indicator of that and only the most recent in a series of incidents in the same vein of behavior.

Was what Jenny did commendable? Nope, not at all, she was clearly baiting him for the reaction and that's a shtty thing to do. But that's when you have some class and you either defend yourself articulately (I made a mistake in the past, I'm making amends for it. Rihanna has forgiven me, it would be nice if the public could find the will to do the same) or you simply bow out of the conversation and let it slide off your back and block the person harassing you. His reaction speaks leaps and bounds about what kind of a person he is.

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@Nefarious: Do we really remember people for the worst? How do you feel about Tommy Lee, Gary Dourdan, Lane Garrison, Nicolas Cage, that guy from M*A*S*H, Josh Brolin, etc? When Nicolas Cage is mentioned, nobody says "Ghost Rider sucked as much as him beating his wife did"? Where is that backlash. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying what he did was right, but at what point are we going to let him stop carrying that cross?

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Rihanna did something to get beat up that bad. Not only did he bite her but he told her he was going to kill her, that doesn't sound like someone in a dominant position. Chris Brown has been with tons of girls, only one of them got beat up. Do the math.

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@Night Thrasher said:

@Nefarious: Do we really remember people for the worst? How do you feel about Tommy Lee, Gary Dourdan, Lane Garrison, Nicolas Cage, that guy from M*A*S*H, Josh Brolin, etc? When Nicolas Cage is mentioned, nobody says "Ghost Rider sucked as much as him beating his wife did"? Where is that backlash. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying what he did was right, but at what point are we going to let him stop carrying that cross?

I'm sure nobody even cares enough about those people for there to be any "backlash". Chris Brown and Rihanna are big right now. Nobody is giving these other dudes a pass for beating their women. People don't care as much because of who they are though. I don't even know who half these guys you mentioned are.
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I always thought guys were madder at him for what he did than women...anyways, the guy was always an a$$ and I share no sympathy for him. He should probably get persecuted more than he does because he really doesn't at all considering he's living a more comfortable life than essentially anyone else on the planet.

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You think Chris has it bad Hank Pym accidentally back handed his wife once around 40 years ago and has spent every single appearance since apologizing for it and yet is still considered the comic book poster boy for domestic abuse, yes I know Pym is fictional but I can't force myself to actually give a s**t about chris brown

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@Vance Astro said:

@Night Thrasher said:

@Nefarious: Do we really remember people for the worst? How do you feel about Tommy Lee, Gary Dourdan, Lane Garrison, Nicolas Cage, that guy from M*A*S*H, Josh Brolin, etc? When Nicolas Cage is mentioned, nobody says "Ghost Rider sucked as much as him beating his wife did"? Where is that backlash. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying what he did was right, but at what point are we going to let him stop carrying that cross?

I'm sure nobody even cares enough about those people for there to be any "backlash". Chris Brown and Rihanna are big right now. Nobody is giving these other dudes a pass for beating their women. People don't care as much because of who they are though. I don't even know who half these guys you mentioned are.

They all were/are famous. We don't immediately associate them with hitting women. The lead singer for Creed was arrested for domestic violence and no one ever brings that up. The point is a lot of people celebrity or otherwise have been arrested for domestic violence. It's not commendable or acceptable and most offenders are repeat offenders. Chris however, doesn't seem to be a repeat offender and that is something that most of the offenders are repeat offenders.

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@Night Thrasher said:

They all were/are famous. We don't immediately associate them with hitting women. The lead singer for Creed was arrested for domestic violence and no one ever brings that up. The point is a lot of people celebrity or otherwise have been arrested for domestic violence. It's not commendable or acceptable and most offenders are repeat offenders. Chris however, doesn't seem to be a repeat offender and that is something that most of the offenders are repeat offenders.

The Lead Singer from Creed isn't constantly in the media. I don't even know who he is. He's not the topic of discussion around most households. Chris Brown and RIhanna are huge right now and their incident is fairly recent. Tommy Lee used to beat Pam Anderson..which was a big deal when they were huge celebrities. They aren't anymore so nobody brings up what happened between them. People didn't forget though.
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Leave Breezy alone!!! 

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@Vance Astro said:

@Night Thrasher said:

@Mercy_: @x_29: Where was all this for Charlie Sheen? He beat Denise Richards and then went on to "Two and a Half Men" and became the highest paid actor on television. To me, the contempt isn't brewing from the what but the who and that seriously bothers me.

He also called her a n*gger..LMFAO!

What?

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@Mercy_ said:

I'd have a lot more sympathy (nevermind, not sympathy...understanding) for him if he weren't such a contentious prick on multiple occasions. If he owned up to what he did (aside from court mandated community service and other conditions), I'd be a lot more likely to say 'yeah, this dude did something pretty terrible, but he's making amends for it'. That's not the case at all. Contrarily, he seems to enjoy flaunting the fact that he did this and continuing on with an aggressive, confrontational attitude. The Twitter incident with Jenny Johnson is a clear indicator of that and only the most recent in a series of incidents in the same vein of behavior.

Was what Jenny did commendable? Nope, not at all, she was clearly baiting him for the reaction and that's a shtty thing to do. But that's when you have some class and you either defend yourself articulately (I made a mistake in the past, I'm making amends for it. Rihanna has forgiven me, it would be nice if the public could find the will to do the same) or you simply bow out of the conversation and let it slide off your back and block the person harassing you. His reaction speaks leaps and bounds about what kind of a person he is.

Certainly.

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What?

Denise Richards recorded a conversation between her and Charlie Sheen where he called her a n*gger, and yes she's white..which makes it funny.
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@Mercy_ said:

I'd have a lot more sympathy (nevermind, not sympathy...understanding) for him if he weren't such a contentious prick on multiple occasions. If he owned up to what he did (aside from court mandated community service and other conditions), I'd be a lot more likely to say 'yeah, this dude did something pretty terrible, but he's making amends for it'. That's not the case at all. Contrarily, he seems to enjoy flaunting the fact that he did this and continuing on with an aggressive, confrontational attitude. The Twitter incident with Jenny Johnson is a clear indicator of that and only the most recent in a series of incidents in the same vein of behavior.

Was what Jenny did commendable? Nope, not at all, she was clearly baiting him for the reaction and that's a shtty thing to do. But that's when you have some class and you either defend yourself articulately (I made a mistake in the past, I'm making amends for it. Rihanna has forgiven me, it would be nice if the public could find the will to do the same) or you simply bow out of the conversation and let it slide off your back and block the person harassing you. His reaction speaks leaps and bounds about what kind of a person he is.

And this is one of the reasons why Mercy is awesome. Agreed 100%.

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@Vance Astro said:

@nick_hero22 said:

What?

Denise Richards recorded a conversation between her and Charlie Sheen where he called her a n*gger, and yes she's white..which makes it funny.

Seriously? That's crazy ass Charlie Sheen for you.

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Didn't he get beat up Rihanna tattooed on his neck?

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@Vance Astro: So what your saying is; a person only deserves decency if he/she isn't in the media spotlight. As long as your a B-List celebrity or below then you expect some respect and empathy. But, if you happen to be talented and make a mistake then you can expect to live that down for the rest of your life?

S/N A lot of people did forget about the Tommy Lee/Pam Anderson thing and some a lot of them forgave Tommy Lee almost immediately afterwards. I believe he even got a reality show on MTV shortly after the incident.

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I feel sorry for Chris Brown because nobody around him is making him accountable for his behavior. He's going to be a tragedy in a minute if he doesn't stop screwin around.

What he said.

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I don't dislike him because he hit Rihanna, I dislike him because he always comes off like an arrogant jerk...you too Kanye.

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I don't dislike him because he hit Rihanna, I dislike him because he always comes off like an arrogant jerk...you too Kanye.

This!

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@Vance Astro: So what your saying is; a person only deserves decency if he/she isn't in the media spotlight. As long as your a B-List celebrity or below then you expect some respect and empathy. But, if you happen to be talented and make a mistake then you can expect to live that down for the rest of your life?

S/N A lot of people did forget about the Tommy Lee/Pam Anderson thing and some a lot of them forgave Tommy Lee almost immediately afterwards. I believe he even got a reality show on MTV shortly after the incident.

It's not about who deserves what it's about what's on people's radars. People won't leave this incident alone because it's fairly new and Chris Brown is very popular\famous RIGHT NOW. If this was 10 years later, I could understand but it's not even close and even then it won't end. Michael Jackson was accused of molestation..people made jokes about that and brought it up until the day he died and he was never convicted. Nobody forgot about about what Tommy Lee did and if you think that him getting a reality show means he was forgiven then why not assume Chris Brown was forgiven for receiving awards,selling out shows,still being seen with Rihanna,and still selling records?
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From Jenny herself:

This is not an apology. I just want to clear some things up. My first thought following my Twitter exchange with Chris Brown on Sunday was to ignore it until it went away. The exchange I'm referencing would be the one where he tweeted he looked old for 23, and I replied with a not-so-kind comment. From there we discussed farts, spelling, past events, bushpigs, and which part of my eye he wanted to go number two on. It ended with him deactivating his Twitter account.

I assumed a couple of days would pass and other things would happen and our little spat would be yesterday's news. Halle Berry's baby daddy and current fiancé get in a fistfight, Lindsay Lohan gets arrested, and Kate Middleton gets bangs: perfect. But it's still kind of there. I didn't expect my name to be in entertainment news, but it is, and it is because I started it.

I won't say I regret what I did, but I will say I have learned from it. I chose to turn a lazy Sunday watching football with my husband into a total shitstorm. I never thought I'd see the chicks on The View attempt to break down our interaction on Twitter (if they only knew how little thought and effort go into anything I tweet, there is literally nothing to break down). I didn't think I would be invited to be a guest on their show or any other TV or radio program.

I didn't want attention from all of this. If I wanted attention, I would have accepted all of the invitations to be on shows and to actually give exclusive interviews, but I declined all of them. I didn't think the thousands of (misspelled) death threats I got would have people thinking I saw myself as a victim, because I am NOT a victim of anything, nor have I ever thought I was (excluding the time I paid to see The Village). I've had people assume I dislike Chris Brown because I'm taking up for Rihanna, I'm not. I'm on the side of good, of equality and respect for my fellow woman. I was raised to not respect a person who doesn't respect others. And one human being physically harming another human being is one of the most disrespectful acts there is. I have never been a victim of domestic abuse, nor was I raised in a house where there was abuse. I do however, know people who have been victims of abuse by a so-called "loved one" and I've seen the long term damage it does.

That said, my Twitter account is meant to be funny. While there are truths behind a lot of the things I write, in no way, shape or form are they meant to be seen as anything other than the words of a comedy writer, in 140 characters or less. I started it on Sunday and it was certainly not my finest hour, but here we are. By next week Miley Cyrus will marry a shoe, Justin Bieber will meet the Pope wearing a wetsuit, Kim Kardashian will announce she's pregnant with a sea turtle, and everyone will move on. Even though I promised myself I would remain quiet on this subject, I just felt the need to clear the air on these certain topics.

Don't worry Team Breezy, your hero is still on Instagram under the handle FuckYoPictures. #Classy


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@Mercy_ said:

@pooty said:

Since he hit Rihanna, who deserved it for hitting him first

I generally agree with the principal that if a female hits a male, he's not outside his rights to hit her back. But it's not like he just slapped her across the face. He savagely beat the sh!t out of her and that's something else entirely.

This is the police report detailing exactly what he did to her. I suggest that you read it (skip down to page 4 for the pertinent details) before you say that she deserved it.

The Laws only take men beating women seriously just because women are not as good at physical fighting as guys are however, I see it differently.

It doesnt matter if the woman slapped, punched, kicked, bit...etc Chris should have his self defence rights. I'll tell ya, if a woman put theirself in a mans shoes and came at me like a hard ass Guy, I would flat out knock the sh!t out of em. I wont let anyone beat me to death for any matter.

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Brown and Rihanna are both morons

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@Night Thrasher said:

@Vance Astro said:

@Night Thrasher said:

@Nefarious: Do we really remember people for the worst? How do you feel about Tommy Lee, Gary Dourdan, Lane Garrison, Nicolas Cage, that guy from M*A*S*H, Josh Brolin, etc? When Nicolas Cage is mentioned, nobody says "Ghost Rider sucked as much as him beating his wife did"? Where is that backlash. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying what he did was right, but at what point are we going to let him stop carrying that cross?

I'm sure nobody even cares enough about those people for there to be any "backlash". Chris Brown and Rihanna are big right now. Nobody is giving these other dudes a pass for beating their women. People don't care as much because of who they are though. I don't even know who half these guys you mentioned are.

They all were/are famous. We don't immediately associate them with hitting women. The lead singer for Creed was arrested for domestic violence and no one ever brings that up. The point is a lot of people celebrity or otherwise have been arrested for domestic violence. It's not commendable or acceptable and most offenders are repeat offenders. Chris however, doesn't seem to be a repeat offender and that is something that most of the offenders are repeat offenders.

Relevance affects media coverage. Larry Johnson is a "repeat offender", and has allegedly beaten up on his, like, 78th girlfriend, and yet, other than a bad mugshot, he hasn't been given that much media coverage..........and "Creed" is not big like that.............at all.

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@Night Thrasher: Yes, we do, occasionally. It is like opening old wounds that haven't been healed. The band aid has not worked at all. Those celebrities are overlooked but we still remember what they did and bring it up but not a lot.
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Well whether he likes it or not, as long as he and Rihanna are continue to be big on the industry, that incident is always going to be remembered.

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@JediXMan said:

@Night Thrasher said:

Or is the contempt really out of sympathy for the victim?

That... that might be an issue. Let's be honest: if Chris Brown was dating some nameless girl and not Rihanna, I doubt anybody would care,

I honestly don't even know who Rihanna is, I thought she was a nobody. I don't pay attention to pop stars or any of that crap. I still don't get why Kim Kardashian is famous, beyond the OP link about that woman who tweets about the Kardashians and Chris Brown.

I also don't even know who Chris Brown is, besides the fact he beat a woman named Rihanna.

Now that I know what he did in detail though, he should have been convicted for attempted murder, and put in jail for a long time.

@White Mage said:

@JediXMan said:

I feel like posting this.

Not saying I agree with everything, but for the most part, I do.

.....wow.........that's a lot.lol

I must say, I agree with a helluva lot of this

And this. That's a pretty awesome video. I agree with all of it.

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@minigunman123: your young. I am surprised you don't know who these people are. What kind of music do you listen to?

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i have a life. i dont care about this.

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@charlieboy said:

@minigunman123: your young. I am surprised you don't know who these people are. What kind of music do you listen to?

Classical (romantic era, baroque era sometimes, classical era), some metal/rock, and film/video-game scores if they're good (Hans Zimmer is one of my favorites in the area of film scores). I don't listen to dance music, pop, rap, techno, country, but I have listened to blues once or twice.

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@minigunman123: I have a friend who is really into film scores. I used to joke that he is the only person I know who cared about such things. I can bring the list up to two now. I don't really listen to Rihanna or Chris Brown but i have heard of them just from being in public and hearing whatever music is playing. or seeing stuff on the internet.

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@charlieboy said:

@minigunman123: I have a friend who is really into film scores. I used to joke that he is the only person I know who cared about such things. I can bring the list up to two now. I don't really listen to Rihanna or Chris Brown but i have heard of them just from being in public and hearing whatever music is playing. or seeing stuff on the internet.

I'm not alone in my obsession with film scores :DDD

And yeah, I've heard of these people, but I never really payed attention to who they were or what they did. They were just names and voices in the background that I didn't pay attention to. Rihanna looks great for being so horribly treated. I'd think there would be scars of some kind.

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@Vance Astro said:

@nick_hero22 said:

What?

Denise Richards recorded a conversation between her and Charlie Sheen where he called her a n*gger, and yes she's white..which makes it funny.

LMAO!!!

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I have this idea. An idea that festers in my mind when people talk about celebrities. Probably about 97% of the time people talk about celebrities, anyway.

My idea is revolutionary. My idea is complex. My idea is difficult. My idea will require self control. My idea will require motivation.

My idea is simple:

Shut the f**k up.

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