nick_hero22

I never stated that you claimed that she was on Clark's level. I simply stated that it was an apples to oranges comparison. What lightening speed characters have she been able to keep up with in speed?

Never claimed that Bane was on Sakura's level. You brought up that Bane broke Batman's back, and I posted a link to a collection of scans showing Batman beating Bane supercharged on venom. Lady Shiva and Richard Dragon are anything but normal, so losing to them isn't a particularly embarrassing feat. Batman has been able to hold his own against Karate Kid twice. I don't believe that Sakura could beat Karate Kid in a straight fight.

What kind of gear or equipment do you all think that Batman should bring to the table to help him in this fight that wouldn't make things too oneside? Outsider Suit?

1. Let's feel free to disagree on Neji versus Naruto

2. I never claimed that Dosu would beat Gaara. I simply stated that we have no reason to believe Dosu was fodder.

3. Again, the only person shocked in that instance was Sakura. Naruto was going to let himself be killed by Sasuke if Sai didn't intervene to block his attack while Sakura was still in shock at his speed.

4. Again, Tsunade and Sakura have two completely different training backgrounds. Sakura might have superhuman (chakra control) and know a little taijutsu, but there is no PROOF that she has had any training beyond that. She has no offensive ninjutsu or genjutsu which further validates my point about her training.

5. Kakashi had no clue what they were capable of post time-skip so what pressure would he have felt. I like said he had his Sharingan already activated before they all started fighting. He most likely activated it as a pre-cautionary measure, but they could even lay a hand on him or take the bell.

6. Base Naruto wasn't holding his own against Pain, and he was defeated by Pain when he activated Sage Mode. Sasuke was partially blind if I am not mistaken, and not expecting Naruto in that instance. The fight with those Cloud Jounin was very brief and Sai really didn't do much in the fight, so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that they were too much for him. The character that got blitzed and fodderized with a simple kick was Sakura.

What are you talking about here? A blind Madara blitzing Sage Mode Naruto? Sage Mode has been stated to increase physical stats. No where has it been stated or shown that Sakura had a major boost in her speed after the time-skip.

Batman gear has frequently harmed metahumans, and this isn't disputable, and do you have evidence for this MHS+ speed? Superman and Sakura are an apples to oranges comparison. The only thing that Sakura has is superhuman strength that is a tiny fraction of a fraction of Superman's strength and medical ninjutsu. Superman can lift the entire planet while being sun deprived, so please stop!

How when his gear has damaged stronger opponents?

Context matters! Sakura isn't a fraction of Superman in any category. Bane had prep against Batman, and that is an old showing. Batman has been able to beat Bane when he has been supercharged on venom.

https://arousinggrammar.com/2014/10/05/batman-vs-bane-new-52/

Read the OP and the comments where I describe what prep looks like

1. Besides Sasuke who got a major bump in speed later in the Chunin Exams? I said that in the final stages of Chunin Exams that Sasuke was somewhat on part with Weightless Rock Lee. I stated that is was arguable that during the Chunin Exams Neji is the only character that was faster than Weighted Rock Lee until the later part of the exams after Sasuke had copied his speed. The rest of the characters are below the speed of Weighted Rock Lee who is slower than sound. Base Naruto couldn't even touch Neji, so how isn't that a testament to the character's speed and reaction time? Neji had no trouble keeping up with KN0 Naruto. The only reason why Neji lost is because he was overconfident and Naruto was able to trick him.

2. How is Dosu a fodder when really don't know what he is capable of since he died so early. Gaara's tailed beast would fodderize any of the genin during the Chunin Exams. There is no evidence that Gaara would be able to kill Dosu easily without his tail beast since we really don't know the full extent of Dosu's capabilities.

3. Sakura was the only person in Team 7 who said she couldn't see Sasuke move, so how are you coming to the conclusion that he blitzed everyone else? She fought Kakashi during the second bell test, and he didn't mention anything about her speed. Naruto didn't mention anything about her speed either.

4. There is no evidence that she was trained to fight outside of chakra control (physical strength) and a little taijutsu, if she was taught to fight what offensive abilities does she have to indicate that this is true outside of chakra control training which is a requirement for medical ninjutsu. Why would Tsunade have taught her to fight when she wasn't even sure that Sakura could even learn the 100 Healing Seal technique. Even in the War Arc, Sakura pretty much acted as medical support to the rest of the shinboi.

5. Kakashi had his Sharingan activated before they even really started fighting, so it is not like they pressured him to use his Sharingan in the middle of the battle to keep up with them.

6. The point was that you claimed that Sakura was as fast as a standard Jounin. Base Naruto isn't really all that fast to be honest, so I don't see why some Jounin wouldn't be able to keep up with him.

7. Blitzing Sage Mode Naruto while blind is vastly superior to pummeling Gaara because we know that Sage Mode offers a substantial increase in physical attributes in addition to greatly enhanced reflexes. Kabuto's Edo technique brings the dead almost on par with their capabilities when they were alive.

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If you are going to comment you need to substantiate your claims. You cannot just come into a thread and just proclaim that the thread is a mismatch when no one has been able to post any evidence to justify the claim that Sakura can blitz nor has anyone provided an argument for while the gap in their respective strength levels is insurmountable. It is well within the rights of the OP to defeat the legitimacy of their threads and to even play devil's advocate if need be.

Sakura doesn't even have a fraction of Superman's strength, so please stop. Also, to make matters much worst Superman has a laundry lists of well documented capabilities and feats to justify the claim that his coughs could kill Batman while the only Sakura has going for her is superhuman strength and medical ninjutsu.

@eriel said:

@nick_hero22: Here.

The Physical Strength is an aggregated score of muscle mass, neural development, and weight distribution.