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#1 Posted by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

@theamazingbatman said:

I don't understand why people don't believe in God .

God's existence is obvious if you really think about it .

.....mind elaborating on why God's so called existence is obvious? As someone who's agnostic - I ain't seeing it. Espeacially a personal God, who I am 99.99% sure doesn't exist.

I think that a Christian would say that since everything is contingent on something else for its existence there must be a non-contingent (or necessary) thing to kick things into gear.

#2 Posted by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Edited by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

@beaconofstrength said:

@nick_hero22:

he point is that if she missed then it wouldn't be accurate to categorize this as dodging the blast. Snake was aware of the blast while it was approaching his destination through environmental clues and hints because as soon as the blast was fired his expression and demeanor changed, and he jumped to the ground.

We're still under the assumption that she missed. And even if she did miss, Snake still reacted and dodged in time, before the shot got to him. We're going in a full circle, but at the end of the day Snake was still able to react and dodge before the shot reached him. Not to mention right after Wolf shot, the camera moved to the perspective of the projectile, which was moving directly at Snake.

I'm getting another copy of the MGS4 novel soon, so once I receive it I'll skim through really quick and see if it mentions anything about Wolf missing her shot.

That's pretty much all we can make of that situation because we know he didn't dodge the blast by sight because the projectile was masked by the snowstorm, visibility was so low that Crying Wolf had to switch to infrared to see. I recall Snake having a seizure after he jumped to the ground.

While Snake mayof not seen the projectile, but was still able to react in time to the projectile. And no, Snake had a seizure and was trying to recover from it as the projectile was launched; you can see him grunting and kneeling while trying to gain his composure right before the shot was launched.

You said that human Raiden dodged a railgun blast, and then you claimed that Snake had defeated cyborg Raiden as if that was suppose to somehow allow you to come to the conclusion that Snake can also dodge railgun blasts. This is what is called a non-sequitur because you need to provide more evidence and arguments in order to justify that conclusion.

I said Snake defeated Raiden, not cyborg Raiden. Snake easily dispatched an extremely pissed off human Raiden, without getting hit once; Solid Snake was trying to calm him down the entire fight, too. I'm not sure why you thought I said Snake beat Cyborg Raiden.

You are ignoring the fact that electrical discharges were coming from his body and he was in pain when he is mentioning his medicine, and the very fact that they had a supply of medicine for him tells me that these issues were a concurring problem and caused him issues.

I'm not ignoring them, they happened after their fight when Snake had the very clear advantage in the fight. The comic and novel reinforce the fact that Fox retreated after his suit/psyche were going insane; Snake also had the clear leverage in those fights.

The spasms were a byproduct of his faulty neural connection with his exoskeleton suit. Most of his feats are against fodder characters so I don't think a huge amount of effort is required and he was also probably medicated during those incidents as well.

Even during the spasms, he could easily cut down Snake's gunfire (as shown during their first encounter in the novel), and while most of Fox's feats are against fodder, they're still extremely impressive feats; he moved FTE, easily cut down automatic gunfire on numerous occasions, could tank bullets with no trouble, could temporarily endure REX stomping on him, lift massive pillars, lift REX, and more. There was also no proof he needed medicine during those incidents, and even if he did, they're still in line with every feat he has ever accomplished.

That's not what I said..........What was stated was that his suit malfunctions in conjunction with the pain spasms is what probably allowed Snake to harm him in hand-to-hand combat.

He wasn't spazzing out when Snake was hurting him, and there's no proof to reinforce your assumption. Grey Fox even states he could feel Snake's hits, and in the novel it even went out of the way to say Snake's punches were able to harm Fox. There just isn't enough to suggest that Fox's spasms were allowing Snake to hurt Grey Fox.

1. I made the case in the thread that I sent you the link of that we have good reason to believe that Crying Wolf initial shot was inaccurate when we consider everything we know about that instance. What is Snake reacting to and dodging if the blast was a miss? That type of language is misleading. There is no reason to believe that the blast was reacted to after it was fired because during the charging process of the railgun it clearly makes an audible noise that would have been carried through the snowstorm.

2. No, because the railgun makes a clearly audible noise when charging. Also snow and strong wind is known to help sound waves reflect better, so its quite feasible he heard this.

3. It seemed like you were saying that since Snake beat cyborg Raiden he must be able to dodge a railgun because human Raiden dodged a railgun. "Raiden also dodged the rail gun in his human body, yet Snake easily dispatched a very pissed off Raiden." In the first part you specified a human Raiden as if you are trying to differentiate the Raidens in your sentence. I'm still not seeing how Snake beating Raiden is suppose to confer a particular level of speed.

4. If that was the case why was there a supply of medicine created to address that problem unless the pain spasms and malfunctions were recurring? That wasn't the first time that has happened to Grey Fox which is why they kept him medicated and have a supply of medicine on stand-by.

5. Again, he was probably medicated during those incidents because the fact they have a supply of medicine to address the spasms tells me that this is a recurring problem.

6. How do you know he wasn't spazzing out, especially when we know that the spasms were a byproduct of the faulty neural connection to his suit. If you are having a pain spasm I'm sure he would be able to feel Snake's hits. His suit was also malfunctioning as well just because we see the discharges at the end doesn't mean that there was no issues with the suit during the fight. The discharge could have came from the accumulation of many different defects that arose with the suit during the fight. Obviously, there is enough evidence because Grey Fox was able tank hits from a REX; and we know Snake doesn't have that kinda of damage output.

#4 Posted by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

1. My issue with this showing is that we have no reason to believe that Cry Wolf's first shot was even accurate, so Snake jumping to the ground in that instance wouldn't really matter if that was the case because irregardless of when Snake reacted and decided to move the blast would have still missed him. Wasn't he having a seizure after he jumped to the ground? I don't see how Snake beating Raiden in his cyborg form indicates that he is just as fast as human Raiden. This would be considered a non-sequitur.

2. I'm referring to the game. I recall after one of his fights with Snake, he said that he needed to take some medicine or something. His nervous system was imperfectly connected to his suit which is why he was experiencing pain spasms and his motor reflexes were impaired. I think the pain spasms are why he was taking the medicine. We also don't know how much effort Grey Fox was putting into deflecting those bullets since his nervous system was compromised. You don't understand how insanity can lead one to having irrational beliefs, and irrational beliefs can have an impact on the choices that one makes?

3. The pain spasms and suit malfunctions are probably what allowed Snake to have the capacity to hurt him in unarmed combat.

4. No, @nickzambuto claimed that Volgin's electricity moved as fast as natural lightning and that Ocelot blocked it with his bullets.

1. Even if we did assume that Crying Wolf missed, she still shot in the general direction of Snake. It'd still take some mighty fine reflexes to dodge that, since it was after it was fired, and before it reached the target. But again, that's all assuming she missed, which we can't really prove. And Snake was having a seizure right before the shot went off and recovered while he dodged/was on the ground.

And I am referring to human Raiden, not cyborg Raiden; Solid Snake effortlessly dispatched him in a h2h battle without getting hit once.

2. He mentioned his medicine once in the game, and again, it was after his fight with Snake, when he tried to remember himself. In the games, comic, and novel he wasn't randomly slowed down when fighting Snake; he showed his massive strength, durability, in speed, during all their fights. And the spasms only happened after the fight, when Snake clearly had the advantage in battle. And while insanity is an issue, Grey Fox had it in 2/3 of his appearances, and still was preforming amazing feats with it; the comic even confirms and reinforces the fact that the insanity only affected his very personal memories, not his combat prowess. All of Grey Fox's issues happened after his encounters with Snake, not the whole fight.

There's literally no proof suggesting that Fox's durability was malfunctioning when Snake punched him; he was tanking bullets easily and endured getting stepped on by REX.

3. This part was solved while I was gone, no one thinks Volgin's electricity moves as fast as lightning.

1. The point is that if she missed then it wouldn't be accurate to categorize this as dodging the blast. Snake was aware of the blast while it was approaching his destination through environmental clues and hints because as soon as the blast was fired his expression and demeanor changed, and he jumped to the ground. That's pretty much all we can make of that situation because we know he didn't dodge the blast by sight because the projectile was masked by the snowstorm, visibility was so low that Crying Wolf had to switch to infrared to see. I recall Snake having a seizure after he jumped to the ground.

You said that human Raiden dodged a railgun blast, and then you claimed that Snake had defeated cyborg Raiden as if that was suppose to somehow allow you to come to the conclusion that Snake can also dodge railgun blasts. This is what is called a non-sequitur because you need to provide more evidence and arguments in order to justify that conclusion.

2. You are ignoring the fact that electrical discharges were coming from his body and he was in pain when he is mentioning his medicine, and the very fact that they had a supply of medicine for him tells me that these issues were a concurring problem and caused him issues. The spasms were a byproduct of his faulty neural connection with his exoskeleton suit. Most of his feats are against fodder characters so I don't think a huge amount of effort is required and he was also probably medicated during those incidents as well.

That's not what I said..........What was stated was that his suit malfunctions in conjunction with the pain spasms is what probably allowed Snake to harm him in hand-to-hand combat.

3. @nickzambuto addressed the situation

#5 Posted by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22: So you agree with my current analysis then? The showing is still phenomenal, if I ever said the lightning was natural then I did not mean to intentionally buff it up; the impressiveness of the feat hasn't changed in my mind.

I wouldn't use the word phenomenal, and I see the feat as more intelligence/tactical oriented. You flat out claimed that Volgin's lightning was fast as natural lightning, and we ended up having a long drawn out discussion about this in previous threads.

#6 Posted by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

@jnr6lil: "Whites never had/have their communities redlined."

But who was Italians and Irish?

You know how Italians and Irish became white? They became white by oppressing black people in this country.

http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095

#7 Edited by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:
@nick_hero22 said:
@jashro44 said:

Just on the subject of Volgins lightning I imagine it would be moving at speeds around the level as Ocelots bullets. The lightning more or less seemed to travel the same distance. So I guess if anyone knows the speed of Ocelots revovler than we can determine the speed of Volgins lightning I guess.

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All though not sure what Ocelot has to do with this thread.....

It has to do with the misrepresentation that is prevalent in MGS related threads. @nickzambuto claimed that during this particular incident Ocelot was able to block Volgin's lightning.

You're just being spiteful against me, you've been mentioning my name in every post just to try and make me look bad. That isn't fair, I don't understand why you dislike me so much that you would go out of your way just to convince others that I'm wrong.

Listen, I don't know if I ever directly stated that Volgin's lightning moves as fast as regular lightning. If I did, then I admit I was mistaken, I must not have known how fast lightning was at the time. However, that does not negate the feat, it simply lowers it from "incredible hax" to just "very good." It's electricity so obviously it would have been moving at a significant speed, maybe somewhere around mach 2 is a good estimate, although at the very least it was moving at the same speed as Ocelot's bullets themselves, which we can see visually. I agree with you that the conductivity of the metal bullet is what allowed Ocelot to redirect the projectile; that fact is part of the feat. Electricity is not a solid, if Ocelot shot some other substance at it like wood, then all the accuracy in the world would not have done anything. However, Ocelot was tactical enough to realize that he could use the conductivity of his bullets to his own advantage, by taking over Volgin's own lightning with them. He still needed to fire off his gun fast and accurately enough to hit the focal point of the electricity; this is an unarguable fact, look at the video, it isn't like Ocelot's bullets were way off into left field and the lightning was drawn directly over to them. His bullet hit straight and impacted with the lightning itself, then conduction took over and the bullet was redirected. This feat displays great speed, accuracy, and intelligence.

I'm not being spiteful, but you have misrepresented this feat and other before. That is my issue with you, and now I can lay this one to rest since you have now acknowledged that you have misrepresented it.

#8 Posted by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

Just curious as to what website I was apparently banned from, is there a rule against making false accusations

Nicks " ***** people have a bad habit of blatantly lying when it comes to terminology" this seems like a good example of racism in my opinion, I wonder if superguy can clarify if my apparent racism is better or worse.

I would like to think I stick to individual language or at the very least clarify averages in a non derogatory way, I am not getting that vibe from Nicks post though.

Point proven...........

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#9 Posted by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

@saren said:

Asian master race here, where are the rest of you?

You're Asian?

#10 Posted by nick_hero22 (8319 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@nick_hero22: On another thread....What the heck does Ocelot have to do with this?

A user asked me what examples can I give of feats being misrepresented in MGS threads, and this incident is just one of those examples I provided.