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Bane

Ra's al Ghul

Joker

Poison Ivy

Clayface.

Which Clayface, may I ask? Personally, I'd go for melodramatic Preston Payne, the original unstably psychotically dangerous Clayface, people-melting hands and all, but I'd place him either no. 10 or no. 9.

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#2  Edited By ngroove

I guess, of current:

1. Catwoman

2. Penguin

3. Riddler

4. Joker (his Batman 1 until 400 self; OK, I'll add until Superman Vol.2 No. 9 , but no, I could not care any less about "Killing Joke" and the rest of his overrated appearances since; this listing only goes for the Joker, whether written by Bill Finger, or Gardner Fox, or John Broome, or Dennis O' Neil, or Steve Englehart, or Len Wein, or Gerry Conway, or Doug Moench, drawn by Bob Kane, or Jerry Robinson, or Dick Sprang, or Sheldon Moldoff, or Carmine Infantino, or Irv Novick, or Jim Aparo, or Neal Adams, or Jose-Luis Garcia Lopez, or Marshall Rogers, or Walt Simonson, or Don Newton, others, who knows how to have fun, Jokergas to Jokermobile!)

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5. Hmmmmm.....see my avatar ;)

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#3  Edited By ngroove

Batman, I would say, his level is 3; definitely not a Superman, whose a 10, but two notches above 1 for his self-made (peak human, but still human) fighting skills and preparedness

Robin / Nightwing / Batgirl - I'll give 2

Catwoman - 2

Penguin / Pre-1982 Catwoman / Riddler / Scarecrow / Two-Face / Poison Ivy / Mad Hatter - 1. Seriously, wack out their weapons, one Bat-punch, and it's over.

Joker, Batman 1 (1940) only - 3

Joker, after that - 2, due to combination of crazy / desperation

Mister Freeze - 2. More durable, sometimes even stronger, due to suit, otherwise that's about it, not counting freezegun.

Clayface (Basil Karlo and Matt Hagen) - 6

Killer Croc - 4

Ra's Al Ghul (recharged from Lazaurus Pit) - 4. See Batman 244, Bats simply had no chance.

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You forgot:

Filmation Batman's "The Great Scarecrow Scare"

Challenge of the Superfriends

Galactic Guardians Super Powers Show "The Fear".

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#5  Edited By ngroove

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles trilogy (1990-1993), although II has long been outdated, overly aware of its general franchise kid demographic, cheese, Vanilla Ice not helping, but still FUN to watch all the same.

TMNT I - I'd say, 10/10

TMNT II - 7/10

TMNT III - 8/10 - not as great as the first, but better, steps more serious than the second

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@ngroove said:

@billy_batson said:

It has Anarky. I'll watch it.

BB

As the main villain (yes, villain), and from every place I've heard, going to be played completely and contradictingly opposite than what he originally stood for.

He was a villain when he first debuted?

BB

A messed-up kid who was willing to harm people, establishments that got in the way of his views, needed help yes, but what I'm saying, is the show is going to play him as the main villain - "bad guy" - cartoons these days - aimed for demographic - does not portray their characters with complexity.

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#7  Edited By ngroove

Let's see.

I grew up watching 60s Batman, syndicated on Family Channel, thus first Batman book obtained when I started reading Batman in earnest, "Batman in the Sixties". Also have Showcase Presents Batman Vol.1-4. Despite collection of Showcases, a few Archives, Chronicles, and Batman in the Decade Series, otherwise, I LOATHE the "graphic novel", thus preferring the "real things", the comics, if affordable. Oldest comic I've got, a Detective Comics from 1963, and also hold a Batman 232 and 251 in collection.

Am a classic Batman reader, meaning I often prefer collecting his 60s to early-mid 80s adventures, don't care for Modern (Post Crisis) much - many stories - from Year One-On, just plain bores me. Although have a soft spot for Alan Grant, Knightfall, Hush, and Paul Dini, and an occassional today's Batman / Detective / Dark Knight / Batgirl / Catwoman / Arkham Unhinged, according to art /story quality, and which Bat-Villain is in it.

I occasionally watch Batman Animated Series, ONLY when it's on television, solely for time-killing purposes only, as I highly don't care for the show anymore, as I find it overrated, and it's a lot more serious (unfunny, uncartoony, boring) nature than true cartoons, such as Batman-wise, Batman: the Brave & the Bold.

Could not care any less about Bat-merchandise other than comics; why pay $20, even hundreds, on toys to statues, when it could be used instead on more comics?

Ohhh yeah; for the most part, only Batman I aknowledge as Batman is Bruce Wayne, Robin, mostly Dick Grayson, and Batgirl, 100% Barbara Gordon.

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@billy_batson said:

It has Anarky. I'll watch it.

BB

As the main villain (yes, villain), and from every place I've heard, going to be played completely and contradictingly opposite than what he originally stood for.

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#9  Edited By ngroove

Personally, I found the show enjoyable, while it lasted. Joker had some funny episodes, and Penguin simply cannot be any more HILARIOUS!

However, I myself didn't care much for the final season; too much teaming-up with a not-so-subtly all-male Justice League (the show's called THE BATMAN people!), rather than the simplicities of just Batman, with Batgirl and Robin, against just-as fun Batvillain of the episode.

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@masterdetective said:

When The New Batman Adventures came out, all fans were like

"This is sh*t, Batman TAS was better"

When The Batman came out, all fans were like

"This is sh*t, TNBA was better"

When Batman the Brave and the Bold came out, all fans were like

"This is sh*t, The Batman was better"

Now that Batman the Brave and the Bold is over, all fans are like

"OMG BTB looks horrible, BTBATB was a lot better"

Q.E.D

1) IT WILL 3-D!!! Complete with over-unusually distorted facial shape and expressions, as most CGI cartoons, including Iron Man: Armored Adventures, Star Wars: the Clone Wars, Green Lantern, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, usually does.

2) Most cartoons these days, with only few rare exceptions, tends to over-make sure its demographics are the Elementary-age children; anyone above 13 who gives them a watch nowadays, would probably feel it's talking "down" on them.

3) Its unusual, unconventional, decision of choice of characters; Katana rather than Robin, and Anarky, Professor Pyg, Mister Toad, ect.